***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[milestailsprowe]

It's funny how to be ok in the Republican party is just being Republican. This crap doesn't fly at all with Democrats and some independents.

 

[HIM]

Im definitely gonna have to take a break from the news (and this thread) after this D'Souza ********. He's one of the most vile human beings I've come across.

 

[Belgium]

. Found guilty
. Stole money
. Admit to it all
. Gets pardon


20g’s is no big deal for a white collar crime but more than a bag on you that sells for 40bucks is multiple years of prison. Almost seems........ systematic?

I think I see a pattern here with these pardons

Joe Arpaio: Guilty of defying a court order to stop racial profiling. Arpaio is a known racist and is still rambling about birtherism.
Scooter Libby: Guilty and convicted of 2 counts of perjury, 1 count of obstruction of justice in a grand jury investigation and 1 count of lying to the feds. The indictments came from the investigation into the leaking of Valerie Plame's covert CIA identity.
Dinesh D'Souza: Guilty of campaign finance violations. He pleaded guilty to illegally reimbursing 2 straw donors in May 2014 who donated $10k each to Wendy Long's 2012 US Senate campaign in NY.


I think the Scooter Libby pardon was the worst of all. Libby is a crook and it's not like obstruction of justice, 2 counts of perjury and one for lying to federal investigators is just some petty crime.

 

[blastercombo]

What gets me with these high dollar white collar crimes is that the stolen money is just left as is when it’s all said and done. Imagine the feds pulling a drug bust and after arresting the suppliers they just leave everything in the trap house


The Dave Chappelle skit was WAY ahead of its time

 

[Belgium]

We need to work together with Mexico and Canada to target Trump's business interests and perhaps more importantly key strongholds of Trump supporters and top GOP leaders' supporters.
China's soybean tariff is a good example of specific targeting and US farmers sure felt that one. Trump has never indicated he knows what a trade war is or what the consequences are so I don't think we can count on a rational approach from a man who said trade wars are good and easy to win. The pressure should come from GOP leaders and parts his base and the best way to do that is to cripple their business interests with very specific targeting. Escalation is never a good thing but I'm not sure if anything else can knock some sense into Trump. Coordinating retaliatory tariffs is our best option to me. We should talk to China too.

 

[aepps20]

I think I see a pattern here with these pardons

Joe Arpaio: Guilty of defying a court order to stop racial profiling. Arpaio is a known racist and is still rambling about birtherism.
Scooter Libby: Guilty and convicted of 2 counts of perjury, 1 count of obstruction of justice in a grand jury investigation and 1 count of lying to the feds. The indictments came from the investigation into the leaking of Valerie Plame's covert CIA identity.
Dinesh D'Souza: Guilty of campaign finance violations. He pleaded guilty to illegally reimbursing 2 straw donors in May 2014 who donated $10k each to Wendy Long's 2012 US Senate campaign in NY.


I think the Scooter Libby pardon was the worst of all. Libby is a crook and it's not like obstruction of justice, 2 counts of perjury and one for lying to federal investigators is just some petty crime.

I agree, Libbies are crooks.

 

[elpablo21]

Coalgang, we can't afford to have the pork belly mia at the cookout

 

[aepps20]

Coalgang, we can't afford to have the pork belly mia at the cookout

How dare Obummer do this. How can a guy we voted against still direct policy?

 

[130122]

Coalgang, we can't afford to have the pork belly mia at the cookout

Guess I’m comig thru with them good ole nothingburgers 100% pure vegan derivatives

 

[boris]

Not that it matters!

 

[addict4sneakers]

Can an NT economist explains the +/- of the tariffs?

 

[Cashflow]

 

[MalcolmNewton]

Tariffs, tariffs for everyone. Prices go up, wages stay the same. The world is a casino to President Baboonface von Littlehands, Grand Duchy of Ameristan.

 

[MalcolmNewton]

Can an NT economist explains the +/- of the tariffs?

Wikipedia:

Neoclassical economic theorists tend to view tariffs as distortions to the free market. Typical analyses find that tariffs tend to benefit domestic producers and government at the expense of consumers, and that the net welfare effects of a tariff on the importing country are negative. Normative judgements often follow from these findings, namely that it may be disadvantageous for a country to artificially shield an industry from world markets and that it might be better to allow a collapse to take place.

 

[Belgium]

Good if we can win the case. Trump should ask Bush what happened when he tried his steel tariffs in 2002. Within a year Bush had to remove the tariffs due to negative impact on the US economy and jobs. The WTO also came out against the tariffs back then.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...inst-u-s-tariffs-malmstrom-idUSKCN1IW1Z8?il=0
EU to open WTO case against U.S. tariffs: Malmstrom

 

[stuntman mike]

"this is the best lawyer that the president of the united states can find to represent him before the american people. i mean this is the BEST that donald trump can do?! with all the lawyers in america? is THIS guy?!"
so condescending

 

[Belgium]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...against-trump-with-levies-on-harley-s-bourbon
EU to Strike Back Against Trump With Levies on Harleys, Bourbon
The European Union said it would impose tariffs against U.S. imports in retaliation for new American duties, measures the bloc has already indicated will target consumer, agricultural and steel products in many key Republican constituencies.

The Trump administration announced on Thursday that it would hit the EU, Canada and Mexico with 25 percent duties on imported steel and 10 percent on aluminum in Washington’s most aggressive trade action yet against its allies. The EU has said it will impose retaliatory tariffs on 2.8 billion euros ($3.3 billion) of American imports as soon as June 20.



“The U.S. now leaves us with no choice but to proceed with a WTO dispute settlement case and with the imposition of additional duties on a number of imports from the U.S.,” European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker said in an emailed statement. “We will defend the Union’s interests, in full compliance with international trade law.”

Harley-Davidson Inc. and bourbon are both on the bloc’s list of goods that could be hit, pressuring Republican speaker of the House of Representatives Paul Ryan, who hails from the Wisconsin home of the motorcycle maker, and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, from Kentucky, where the whiskey is made.

National Security
“We support free and fair trade and hope for a quick resolution to this issue,” the bike maker said in an emailed statement. “A punitive, retaliatory tariff on Harley-Davidson motorcycles in other major markets would have a significant impact on our sales, our dealers, our suppliers and our customers in those markets.”

Harley shares dropped as much as 2.5 percent as of 1:30 p.m. in New York and are down about 19 percent this year.

Washington put its levies in place in the name of protecting national security, an assertion members of the EU have dismissed.

“We are deeply disappointed that the U.S. has decided to apply tariffs to steel and aluminum imports from the EU on national security grounds,” the U.K. government said in a statement. “We have made clear to the U.S. Government at the highest levels the importance of U.K. steel and aluminum to its businesses and defense projects.”

The dispute is likely to dominate a meeting of finance ministers from the Group of Seven nations in Canada. The U.S. has just slapped tariffs on five of it six counterparts, including the host.

Prime Minister Theresa May will raise the matter with Trump at a subsequent summit of G-7 leaders next week, also in Canada.

Germany “rejects the tariffs imposed by the U.S. on steel and aluminum,” Steffen Seibert, Chancellor Angela Merkel’s chief spokesman, said in emailed statement.

“We consider that this unilateral measure is unlawful, and that the national security concerns given as the reasons can’t be upheld,” Seibert said. “The measures instead carry the risk of creating a spiraling escalation that will harm everyone.”

French officials said the EU isn’t seeking a trade war with the U.S. but has no choice but to impose “re-balancing” tariffs on selected U.S. exports. The finance ministry officials, who asked not to be identified in line with government rules, said it was hard to envision talks happening with the tariffs in place.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Repulbican areas you say

Destroying your livelihood to own the Libs.

 

[aepps20]

Repulbican areas you say

Destroying your livelihood to own the Libs.

It sometimes has to happen. #SmashMouthPolitics. #DestroyLibsAtAllCosts #OBUMMERISWHYMYLIFEISTRASH, #RUNCOUNTRYLIKEATRUMPHOTEL

 

[MalcolmNewton]

They'll just blame the darkies and illee-gals for their unemployment come 2020

 

[blastercombo]

They'll just blame the darkies and illee-gals for their unemployment come 2020

LOL bingo. THEN they’ll claim the jobs have been taken by all the illegals, present no facts to back it up and hope the topic changes in tone for Sarah sanders to think of something.... anything

 

[boris]

Can someone explain this in terms of da Hemi?

 

[aepps20]

Can someone explain this in terms of da Hemi?

Da Hemi will vroom, Vrooom, VROOOOOM after we win da trade war. Hip Hop Intelegencia has spoken.

 

[the natural mystic]

Can someone explain this in terms of da Hemi?

Isn't da Hemi built in Canada?

 

[blastercombo]

Can someone explain this in terms of da Hemi?

What about the emails?