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Bern and Killer Mike
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It's a bit late to call it a slippery slope; it's already happening.
You're right though; this stuff can engender bitterness and possibly even low-key racism. We live in a very interesting time.
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IMO its pointless. There's far better things to focus your energy towards. They're basically asking the school to erase him off history, which is impossible.
But, at the same time if they feel that strongly about this, I can't be upset at their effort. Still leaning towards "pointless" though.
Was there a thread on the Yale halloween fiasco/idiocy?
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Privilege is invisible to the privileged. As a result, when marginalized groups want a small safe space or they push back against dehumanizing language, assumptions and narratives, they receive scorn and ridicule from every direction. At the same time, mainstream America is allowed to bend history and the English language to its will and it knows that most of the World is a safe space.
Conservatives are mortally offended when someone wants to change the same of a football team in Washington DC and they forget that in Washington DC, the 43rd President and his allies changed and abused language. Torture became enhanced interrogation, having our allies torture became extraordinary rendition, Prisoners of war became enemy combatants. Hell, conservatives could not even countenance the word "french fries." No one accused Congress of being too P.C., not even the "liberal media." If college student petitioned to have the same of a food changed in their dinning hall, all hell would break loose.
As far as safe spaces are concerned, the suburbs, the country club, the golf course, the well manicured parks, the board room, the Trump Towers, a Mitt Romney or Hillary Clinton 50k a plate fundraiser are all safe spaces, as long as you are privileged. If Black students want a corner of the quad or Trans students want some building in the basement of the Humanities Building, the press should ask why some people feel so marginalized that they only feel safe in some tiny out of the way place.
If we applied language evenly, we would see that conservatives have much greater powers of blocking or changing words and phrases and narratives that they do not like. We would see that for marginalized people, most of the World is an unsafe space and for the privileged, almost every space is safe, even the university safe spaces!
Conservatives are mortally offended when someone wants to change the same of a football team in Washington DC and they forget that in Washington DC, the 43rd President and his allies changed and abused language. Torture became enhanced interrogation, having our allies torture became extraordinary rendition, Prisoners of war became enemy combatants. Hell, conservatives could not even countenance the word "french fries." No one accused Congress of being too P.C., not even the "liberal media." If college student petitioned to have the same of a food changed in their dinning hall, all hell would break loose.
As far as safe spaces are concerned, the suburbs, the country club, the golf course, the well manicured parks, the board room, the Trump Towers, a Mitt Romney or Hillary Clinton 50k a plate fundraiser are all safe spaces, as long as you are privileged. If Black students want a corner of the quad or Trans students want some building in the basement of the Humanities Building, the press should ask why some people feel so marginalized that they only feel safe in some tiny out of the way place.
If we applied language evenly, we would see that conservatives have much greater powers of blocking or changing words and phrases and narratives that they do not like. We would see that for marginalized people, most of the World is an unsafe space and for the privileged, almost every space is safe, even the university safe spaces!
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@Rexanglorum -- you just triggered me with your male privilege. How dare you, you patriarchal dinosaur.
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Who knew Killer Mike would be the most important political endorsement of the Democratic presidential nomination process?
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If everything is as bad and unsafe for the people you are referring to, why would you want them to have pretend safe spaces in college when they clearly aren't going to have the same safe spaces in the real world?
Wouldn't it be better to prepare them to face the real world which contains privilege and unfair practices?
Wouldn't it be better to prepare them to face the real world which contains privilege and unfair practices?
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Why should they have to deal with that 24/7?
You don't see the benefit in having a space away from that? These spaces are all temporary. Or the benefit in being around people that relate to your issues? Or seeing how other people in your situation get by in this "privileged and unfair" world?
Or being around people that are trying to come up with a solution to these issues? There are ways to combat the problems. Being around people who face them everyday is a great way to start.
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Who knew Killer Mike was a better public speaker than the majority of people running for President?
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lol him and herman cain both went to morehouse.
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This is a huuuuge stretch and I love Killer Mike.
You really think the yuppie, Volvo wagon driving white folks care what Michael Render thinks?
His endorsement of Bernie is big news in the hip-hop community and amongst younger folks. But those 2 groups make up a small percentage of the Democratic voting base. His endorsement probably won't move the needle for Bernie at all.
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Actually, Bernie's pretty good with the Volvo driving white folks. His low poll numbers are from lack of support from minority communities (I'll never understand blacks infatuation with the Clintons....but anyways)
This could move the needle in a positive direction. More so in the actual primaries than whatever CNN poll is out this week.
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I agree that it could move the needle in a positive direction. But Mike's co-sign isn't the "most important political endorsement". It may be big to the demographic of NT because a lot of us rock with Mike. But in general, I can't see this being some tipping point where Bernie begins to overtake Clinton in the polls. Killer Mike is that dude and has been for years, but he ain't got the juice like that.
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Think about the two clowns that came before Bill.
-But yeah, Killer Mike is not a major endorsement.
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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427619/state-department-iran-deal-not-legally-binding-signed
Ummm what? There is no deal. Just a set of "political commitments"
Iranian President Hassan Rouhani discouraged his nation’s parliament from voting on the nuclear deal in order to avoid placing legal burdens on the regime. “If the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action is sent to [and passed by] parliament, it will create an obligation for the government. It will mean the president, who has not signed it so far, will have to sign it,” Rouhani said in August. “Why should we place an unnecessary legal restriction on the Iranian people?”
Ummm what? There is no deal. Just a set of "political commitments"
Iranian President Hassan Rouhani discouraged his nation’s parliament from voting on the nuclear deal in order to avoid placing legal burdens on the regime. “If the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action is sent to [and passed by] parliament, it will create an obligation for the government. It will mean the president, who has not signed it so far, will have to sign it,” Rouhani said in August. “Why should we place an unnecessary legal restriction on the Iranian people?”
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So what?
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So mr i want a legacy couldn't even get iran to sign the deal but we are supposed to be reassured that they will abide by the terms?
Would you even sell an apartment without getting the buyer's signature on it? There is no binding deal and you just brush it off lol.
Rouhani's quote shows you what iran thinks. They are under no obligation to do ****.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/iran-threatens-to-walk-away-from-nuke-deal/article/2577183
From 2 days ago. Iran threatening to walk away from the "deal" unless international inspectors stop investigating into their past work on the nuclear program
Take the blinders off for one second. Jeez.
Would you even sell an apartment without getting the buyer's signature on it? There is no binding deal and you just brush it off lol.
Rouhani's quote shows you what iran thinks. They are under no obligation to do ****.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/iran-threatens-to-walk-away-from-nuke-deal/article/2577183
From 2 days ago. Iran threatening to walk away from the "deal" unless international inspectors stop investigating into their past work on the nuclear program
Take the blinders off for one second. Jeez.
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The fact the U.S. got nothing out of it, including hostages, deemed this a failure. It stinks even more now that Iran can do what they want with no repercussions.
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The Iranians never called me ******.
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And stop sipping on "we have to do whatever Israel says" kool-aid
-So the deal is not signed by them, how does that change anything really? If they break the agreement are we gonna take them to court? Or are we gonna throw the damb sanctions back on like we've been saying all along?
The deal being signed or not signed changes nothing really. They break the deal, we sanction, just like Kerry says in the letter.
-And I find it harlious conservatives are talking about we can't trust the Iranians to hold to the deal, while at the same damb time, talking about how if they had the choice, they would violate the deal themselves and throw the sanctions back on.
They are openly telling the world that America might be untrustworthy, because one election could put a conservative President in power and the deal could go poof.
Which is exactly the concern with the Iranians, is it not?
-And the last time conservatives ran the show, they lied to the country to send us to war in the middle east, which destabilized the entire region. Remember that? But they have the guts to call someone untrustworthy. How funny
The hypocrisy is so thick, you can cut it with a damb knife.
The Iranian people must live in economic despair because ole chicken lil himself Benjamin Netanyahu is rustled. Man please
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I'm sure the sanctions will be super easy to "snap back" lol. You can keep your doctor too.
Your obsessed with israel as if doing what boeing and exxon want is so much better and american interests aren't at stake.
I state a point that the deal was never even signed and iran is already balking at parts of it regarding their past activities and the first thing you can think of is israel.
Your obsessed with israel as if doing what boeing and exxon want is so much better and american interests aren't at stake.
I state a point that the deal was never even signed and iran is already balking at parts of it regarding their past activities and the first thing you can think of is israel.
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-How will economic sanctions be hard to be put back in place? Explain this to me.
-And you're really going to play the "big business" card, more hypocrisy. The GOP are the party of corporate interest, they don't even attempt to hide it, they are proud of it.
-Like lets not forget America and Iran weren't the only countries involved in this deal and that it will benefit the people of Iran greatly.
-And how is doing what Israel wants so important to American interest, btw?
-I brought up Israel because you know they were the major talking point for the right during the negotiations. But I also pointed out what hypocrites conservatives are being about this "outrage".
Yet you want to ignore that entire part, and somehow paint me as "obsessed" with Israel and that is somehow making me not see the truth.
Well I see it brah, I see conservatives being hypocrites.
-BTW, I got keep my doctor. Many didn't, I'll admit that it was wrong for Obama to over promise like that.
But that being your comeback to sending thousands of troops to die, and blowing 1.7 trillion on a pointless war is straight up hilarious.
The two are not even in the same ballpark famb
