Arian Foster Let It Be Known That He Is A Non-Believer

[darthska]

[quote name="LIONBLOOD"]Did duke ever answer sneakerheathens questions?
[/quote]Nope. Fork wasn't placed properly on the table.

 

[mister friendly]

We all have unanswered questions out there man

 

[sea manup]

 

 

Originally Posted by Mister Friendly  
To the 2nd part, I haven't said anything to close to saying atheists are immoral.

Look at the edit I just added as you responded.

*waits for "Did I say immoral subhuman?"*

Yes because I didn't say that or anything close to that.

you keep saying "i didnt say _____" rather than "i dont think _____"

 

[sea manup]

Ok what exists then?

Does Judaism/ Christianity/Islam exist?

Does atheism exist?

the listed religions exist as ideologies that people believe in

but the actual gods that are worshiped in these religions do not exist 

atheism is not something that can exist. is not playing basketball a hobby? 

 

[darthska]

[quote name="Mister Friendly"][quote name="DarthSka"][quote name="Mister Friendly"]To the 2nd part, I haven't said anything to close to saying atheists are immoral.[/quote]

Look at the edit I just added as you responded.

*waits for "Did I say immoral subhuman?"*

[/quote]Yes because I didn't say that or anything close to that.[/quote]And if I ask you, "Do you know what 'sharing' is?" and "Does your mommy know you're online?", I haven't actually called you a child.

But my line of questioning strongly implies it.

But yeah, I could definitely say "I never called you a child, or anything close."

 

[mister friendly]

Ok what exists then?


Does Judaism/ Christianity/Islam exist?


Does atheism exist?

the listed religions exist as ideologies that people believe in

but the actual gods that are worshiped in these religions do not exist 

atheism is not something that can exist. is not playing basketball a hobby? 

Interesting take

Atheism is something that exists though.

Non belief is still a belief

 

[jking0821]

Ok what exists then?


Does Judaism/ Christianity/Islam exist?


Does atheism exist?

the listed religions exist as ideologies that people believe in

but the actual gods that are worshiped in these religions do not exist 

atheism is not something that can exist. is not playing basketball a hobby? 

Interesting take

Atheism is something that exists though.

Non belief is still a belief

Is it though?

Is the lack of belief really non-belief. Is not believing the same as lack of belief?

 

[dman22193]

Atheism is a belief system the same way "off" is a tv channel

 

[jking0821]

In my eyes is like saying "i don't eat vegetables" vs "vegetables are bad"

Not that all religion is bad, or i stand in staunch opposition to all religions, its just I just don't believe in it

 

[mister friendly]

[quote name="Mister Friendly"][quote name="DarthSka"][quote name="Mister Friendly"]To the 2nd part, I haven't said anything to close to saying atheists are immoral.

Look at the edit I just added as you responded.

*waits for "Did I say immoral subhuman?"*

[/quote]Yes because I didn't say that or anything close to that.[/quote]As if I ask you, "Do you know what 'sharing' is?", I haven't actually called you child.

But my line of questioning strongly implies it.

But yeah, I could definitely say "I never called you a child, or anything close."[/quote]

Your statement could mean many things.

It could mean " I don't think you share enough"

It could mean you share too much, you need to stop for self preservation

It could literally mean...do you know what sharing is?

Taking that simple question and thinking it implies you think I'm a child would be a reach

It all depends on what your intention was. If I was confused Id ask for clarification.

 

[darthska]

[quote name="Mister Friendly"] It all depends on what your intention was. If I was confused Id ask for clarification.[/quote]And then I would give you criterion to fulfil before I honor your request.

 

[mister friendly]

Yes if an atheist never talked about religion then yes you could say your non belief is not a belief.

If youre going around saying there's no God, Youre expressing your belief on this subject.

 

[blastercombo]

Non belief is the lack of a belief no matter how you try to twist it

 

[mister friendly]

Belief is just having opinion or conviction on a subject

Saying God doesnt exist is expressing your opinion or conviction

 

[sea manup]

are you trying to argue that atheism is a belief because you think that if both atheism and christianity are beliefs they are both equal in terms of credibility? 

sorry to break it to you but there is no evidence to support the belief of christianity

while atheism is supported by the same lack of evidence that discredits christianity 

 

[blastercombo]

Belief is just having opinion or conviction on a subject

Saying God doesnt exist is expressing your opinion or conviction

You're bending several DIFFERENT meanings of the word to suit your claim.

 

[darthska]

We were all born atheists.

Then some of us we were convinced there was a god, before we even had the ability to reason and connect dots.

 

[Nawzlew]

Ok what exists then?


Does Judaism/ Christianity/Islam exist?


Does atheism exist?

the listed religions exist as ideologies that people believe in

but the actual gods that are worshiped in these religions do not exist 

atheism is not something that can exist. is not playing basketball a hobby? 

Interesting take

Atheism is something that exists though.

Non belief is still a belief

Uh .. no.

 

[mister friendly]

are you trying to argue that atheism is a belief because you think that if both atheism and christianity are beliefs they are both equal in terms of credibility? 

sorry to break it to you but there is no evidence to support the belief of christianity

while atheism is supported by the same lack of evidence that discredits christianity 

Credibility is in the eye of the beholder

The same way you say you cannot prove God exists, you cannot prove God does not exist.

 

[mister friendly]

Belief is just having opinion or conviction on a subject

Saying God doesnt exist is expressing your opinion or conviction

You're bending several DIFFERENT meanings of the word to suit your claim.

Bending words? that's the dictionary definition

 

[rolaholic]

We were all born atheists.

Then some of us we were convinced there was a god, before we even had the ability to reason and connect dots.

You can't refute this unless the indoctrination can somehow happen from still inside the womb 

 

 

[sea manup]

 

are you trying to argue that atheism is a belief because you think that if both atheism and christianity are beliefs they are both equal in terms of credibility? 

sorry to break it to you but there is no evidence to support the belief of christianity

while atheism is supported by the same lack of evidence that discredits christianity 

Credibility is in the eye of the beholder

The same way you say you cannot prove God exists, you cannot prove God does not exist.

the lack of evidence that god has never existed is the same evidence that suggests that god does not exist

if i enter my house today, i will find no evidence that you have been in my house. that is proof that you have not been in my house

 

[blastercombo]

Credibility is in the eye of the beholder

The same way you say you cannot prove God exists, you cannot prove God does not exist.

We've already went through how this argumentative fallacy falls on the religious. If I claim there's a planet made of icecream and you say I'm wrong my next step can't be to ask you to prove me wrong. It's ME who would have to prove that I'm correct.

 

[blastercombo]

Bending words? that's the dictionary definition

You see the 1, 2, 3 next to different definitions? That doesn't mean you throw all of them together to make up one single meaning.

 

[mister friendly]

Bending words? that's the dictionary definition

You see the 1, 2, 3 next to different definitions? That doesn't mean you throw all of them together to make up one single meaning.

When did I do that? I said belief is just an opinion on conviction in this instance

That's what you do when you express your non belief