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Why aren't convicts being used in the US military?
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I get why some people are so against it, but does it really make a difference if you've killed someone in the US and you end up in jail for it or you kill someone overseas and thats fine because your in the military? People died either way. Yeah, you killed someone overseas to "protect our freedom", but at the same time what if that criminal in jail did it to protect their family? See where im coming from? I'm just trying to look at both sides of this. My reply was no shots at the military either so don't start, i know many people in the service and have family currently in.
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I get why some people are so against it, but does it really make a difference if you've killed someone in the US and you end up in jail for it or you kill someone overseas and thats fine because your in the military? People died either way. Yeah, you killed someone overseas to "protect our freedom", but at the same time what if that criminal in jail did it to protect their family? See where im coming from? I'm just trying to look at both sides of this. My reply was no shots at the military either so don't start, i know many people in the service and have family currently in.
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I think the risk is simply too great. No one will push such an agenda because no one wants to be infamous for allowing convicts to consort and go on a killing spree. In theory, though, it could work - especially if the program was organized in such a way that incentivized loyal behavior and good service.
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I think the risk is simply too great. No one will push such an agenda because no one wants to be infamous for allowing convicts to consort and go on a killing spree. In theory, though, it could work - especially if the program was organized in such a way that incentivized loyal behavior and good service.
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Everything I've said in this topic is referencing this statement by the OP. It's ludicrous.
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Everything I've said in this topic is referencing this statement by the OP. It's ludicrous.
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Guys that can't even follow laws would follow orders?
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Guys that can't even follow laws would follow orders?
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Poor misguide NTers... here's a lesson in REALITY.
People resort to breaking laws when following the law isn't of benefit to them. If the benefits of following rules (i.e. freedom, health and dental) outweigh the benefits of breaking them (quasi-freedom as a fugitive OR being thrown back in prison), people tend to side with what's most beneficial. The majority of inmates ARE NOT sociopaths, they're just people that made one or two bad choices which left them with little to no legal options. If GIVEN an opportunity, a lot of people would actually make good on it. And if they didn't, you can still throw them BACK in jail.
Rolli, I already told you that I was not talking about snatching people off the street, regardless of whether they are a free-walking criminal or not. So whichever claims you make based on that assumption are irrelevant anyway. My statement was not ludicrous, your obliviousness is. If you think that the prisons are filled with 100% of all the criminal minded people in our society,
. It's wiser to assume any/everyone is a potential free-walking felon than it is to assume that just because they aren't in jail that they're "safe" to be around.
People resort to breaking laws when following the law isn't of benefit to them. If the benefits of following rules (i.e. freedom, health and dental) outweigh the benefits of breaking them (quasi-freedom as a fugitive OR being thrown back in prison), people tend to side with what's most beneficial. The majority of inmates ARE NOT sociopaths, they're just people that made one or two bad choices which left them with little to no legal options. If GIVEN an opportunity, a lot of people would actually make good on it. And if they didn't, you can still throw them BACK in jail.
Rolli, I already told you that I was not talking about snatching people off the street, regardless of whether they are a free-walking criminal or not. So whichever claims you make based on that assumption are irrelevant anyway. My statement was not ludicrous, your obliviousness is. If you think that the prisons are filled with 100% of all the criminal minded people in our society,
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Poor misguide NTers... here's a lesson in REALITY.
People resort to breaking laws when following the law isn't of benefit to them. If the benefits of following rules (i.e. freedom, health and dental) outweigh the benefits of breaking them (quasi-freedom as a fugitive OR being thrown back in prison), people tend to side with what's most beneficial. The majority of inmates ARE NOT sociopaths, they're just people that made one or two bad choices which left them with little to no legal options. If GIVEN an opportunity, a lot of people would actually make good on it. And if they didn't, you can still throw them BACK in jail.
Rolli, I already told you that I was not talking about snatching people off the street, regardless of whether they are a free-walking criminal or not. So whichever claims you make based on that assumption are irrelevant anyway. My statement was not ludicrous, your obliviousness is. If you think that the prisons are filled with 100% of all the criminal minded people in our society,
. It's wiser to assume any/everyone is a potential free-walking felon than it is to assume that just because they aren't in jail that they're "safe" to be around.
People resort to breaking laws when following the law isn't of benefit to them. If the benefits of following rules (i.e. freedom, health and dental) outweigh the benefits of breaking them (quasi-freedom as a fugitive OR being thrown back in prison), people tend to side with what's most beneficial. The majority of inmates ARE NOT sociopaths, they're just people that made one or two bad choices which left them with little to no legal options. If GIVEN an opportunity, a lot of people would actually make good on it. And if they didn't, you can still throw them BACK in jail.
Rolli, I already told you that I was not talking about snatching people off the street, regardless of whether they are a free-walking criminal or not. So whichever claims you make based on that assumption are irrelevant anyway. My statement was not ludicrous, your obliviousness is. If you think that the prisons are filled with 100% of all the criminal minded people in our society,
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so i guess some of you have know idea that in some state prisons its ran military style(more in the south and Midwest)? and they have a better success rate then the others?
now should they do it for hardcore convicts? HELL NO but first time or people that are going down the wrong road because of people around them it would be good for.
now should they do it for hardcore convicts? HELL NO but first time or people that are going down the wrong road because of people around them it would be good for.
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so i guess some of you have know idea that in some state prisons its ran military style(more in the south and Midwest)? and they have a better success rate then the others?
now should they do it for hardcore convicts? HELL NO but first time or people that are going down the wrong road because of people around them it would be good for.
now should they do it for hardcore convicts? HELL NO but first time or people that are going down the wrong road because of people around them it would be good for.
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How you can make the assumption that these people will follow orders to fight is beyond me. Why wouldn't they desert? How are you making this leap?
Why aren't all poor people breaking laws?
Why aren't all poor people breaking laws?
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How you can make the assumption that these people will follow orders to fight is beyond me. Why wouldn't they desert? How are you making this leap?
Why aren't all poor people breaking laws?
Why aren't all poor people breaking laws?
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Id only be ok with it if the convicts used had no record of murder or attempted murder.
Drug dealers and petty $$$! like that can go fight in wars, but any convict who is in jail because of murder needs to stay away from weapons.
Drug dealers and petty $$$! like that can go fight in wars, but any convict who is in jail because of murder needs to stay away from weapons.
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Id only be ok with it if the convicts used had no record of murder or attempted murder.
Drug dealers and petty $$$! like that can go fight in wars, but any convict who is in jail because of murder needs to stay away from weapons.
Drug dealers and petty $$$! like that can go fight in wars, but any convict who is in jail because of murder needs to stay away from weapons.
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Because NT is full of ******s with the notion of bootcamp changing these men into angels
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didn't you know? anyone who goes through bootcamp, including the biggest low lifes in society, come out like this..Originally Posted by WarMachine
Because NT is full of ******s with the notion of bootcamp changing these men into angels
