R.I.P Trayvon

This guy while not an expert brought up some good very points especially about baiting.
 but it is his personal opinion - there are no facts where shows that's what Zimmerman did. 

Why would pulling out a gun be your first option, further proving that was not Zimmerman's intent.

Come on - you have to look at both side and try this on facts!

As a person experience in weapons handling - one of the key and I mean key rules is "never point a weapon at anything you do not intent to shot".

#factsonly


Did I say he presented facts? I said he brought up good points

There really aren't many facts in this case, some of the most obvious are that Zimmerman followed Martin and that Martin was shot and killed
 
if you look at all the evidence, without bias, this case should have never gone to trial

if you look at the prosecution's presentation, it couldn't be any more clear


Whos troll account is this?

Who joins a sneaker collecting site and their first post is about the Zimmerman case?

Come on! :lol
 
Whos troll account is this?

Who joins a sneaker collecting site and their first post is about the Zimmerman case?

Come on!
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Did I say he presented facts? I said he brought up good points

There really aren't many facts in this case, some of the most obvious are that Zimmerman followed Martin and that Martin was shot and killed
Exactly why you probably think that Zimmerman is guilty.
 
There really aren't many facts in this case, some of the most obvious are that Zimmerman followed Martin and that Martin was shot and killed

Yah man in hindsight... GZ followed Martin. Martin and GZ got into a fight. Martin whooped his ***. GZ couldn't handle it, reached for his gun and shot/killed him.

You would think just based off right and wrong, Zimmerman should at least get some jail time, fine and/or punishment for killing someone! I mean I can understand if Zimmerman got concussions, broken bones, face is all fractured, etc, etc... but dude walked into that police garage like nothing. :rolleyes Crazy world we live in. :{ Florida and all these Stand Your Ground States are places I definitely wouldn't want to reside! It's like damn someone starts a fight with me, and due to my training I whoop his *** but at any time during the fight, the guy can just grab his gun and kill me? That's some bull right there!
 
Although, I agree with some of the issues that you have to say here. Even if this is true, why is everyone marching for TM when a 16 y/o boy was killed Sunday while on his way to visit is daughter? SMH! This world is all about media attention and race, PERIOD!

BTW, I been talking about Chicago for years now and even after Interrupters - it's like no one care because is black on black crime! SMH -  if no peace no justice is what you stand for then get your butts out there and talk about it, do something about - dont pick and choose - let you be heard!
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even if it is...its factual....in most part nothing has been mentioned...nor has the things surrounding Chicago been publicized and discussed in mainstream media, or by the majority of the u.s. until it was used to dissolve any possibility of race being a factor.

Their wasn't this many ppl in particular whites, that discussed or talked about whats going on in Chicago until the results came for this trial. Matter of fact I remember moments later on fox/cnn forget which one, they were talking about it and showing posting of white ppl twitters who was discussing and bringing it up.

Show me anywhere in any main media outlet....particular like a fox news...or a major social network...to which it was a large discussions, in particular by white America about whats going on in Chicago...especially when it was at its height in the summer/fall last year? But all of a sudden after this trial..and the results.... a commercial break later...just out the blue it is a coincidence, and was one of the main things twitted on twitter, in particular by whites...

I mean I could even see if Chicago etc...what is going on happen/started fairly recent....but its been going on for years, yet im to believe just random out the blue....it is a topic for discussion, and is to be a focal point...To which the main part of the discussion was why are black ppl getting mad, when you got folks getting killed in Chicago?

And that this isn't just a means of deflecting a possibility of race... again the whole...well why look at me look at what they did/doing.
 
even if it is...its factual....in most part nothing has been mentioned...nor has the things surrounding Chicago been publicized and discussed in mainstream media, or by the majority of the u.s. until it was used to dissolve any possibility of race being a factor.

Their wasn't this many ppl in particular whites, that discussed or talked about whats going on in Chicago until the results came for this trial. Matter of fact I remember moments later on fox/cnn forget which one, they were talking about it and showing posting of white ppl twitters who was discussing and bringing it up.

Show me anywhere in any main media outlet....particular like a fox news...or a major social network...to which it was a large discussions, in particular by white America about whats going on in Chicago...especially when it was at its height in the summer/fall last year? But all of a sudden after this trial..and the results.... a commercial break later...just out the blue it is a coincidence, and was one of the main things twitted on twitter, in particular by whites...

I mean I could even see if Chicago etc...what is going on happen/started fairly recent....but its been going on for years, yet im to believe just random out the blue....it is a topic for discussion, and is to be a focal point...To which the main part of the discussion was why are black ppl getting mad, when you got folks getting killed in Chicago?

And that this isn't just a means of deflecting a possibility of race... again the whole...well why look at me look at what they did/doing.
Exactly my point - this case has so much main stream media because a not even white guy partial white killed a young black boy. These two facts and all the hoopla has created this hysteria and clouded peoples minds. Taking color out of this and hearing all the evidence, I think a lot of people that are outrage would probably see it differently.

Just saying man, you can't discredit the facts and although we can assume all we want, we cannot prove it and I rather be that way than being judge on assumption and a innocent person going to jail. I'm not talking about this case, but in general.

Like the Hernandez case, it seems like all the evidence point at Hernandez killing this kid. However, there's nothing to prove it and the only person that has stated that Hernandez admitting to killing Lloyd is a junkie that heard it from someone else. So are we all to say naw Hernandez killed him - he is guilty. No, who knows if Wallace or Ortiz didn't kill him? Evidence man - the only difference is that is obvious Hernandez was trying to get rid of evidence so at the very least he should be charge with accessory to murder, evidence tampering, accomplice to murder etc. The dude is going down.
 
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I guess you dont see the protest and thousands of people who are in uproar.



You're childish with that next garbage so have a great day sir.
I also see thousands at home saying the right verdict was reached.

and because thousands are in uproar does not mean they are right!

and yes, I think the next was unnecessary my apologies. However, I only said that because you initial response was proven wrong.
 
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Yah man in hindsight... GZ followed Martin. Martin and GZ got into a fight. Martin whooped his ***. GZ couldn't handle it, reached for his gun and shot/killed him.

You would think just based off right and wrong, Zimmerman should at least get some jail time, fine and/or punishment for killing someone!

That's how I feel, these laws need to change
 
Exactly my point - this case has so much main stream media because a not even white guy partial white killed a young black boy. These two facts and all the hoopla has created this hysteria and clouded peoples minds. Taking color out of this and hearing all the evidence, I think a lot of people that are outrage would probably see it differently.

Just saying man, you can't discredit the facts and although we can assume all we want, we cannot prove it and I rather be that way than being judge on assumption and a innocent person going to jail. I'm not talking about this case, but in general.

Like the Hernandez case, it seems like all the evidence point at Hernandez killing this kid. However, there's nothing to prove it and the only person that has stated that Hernandez admitting to killing Lloyd is a junkie that heard it from someone else. So are we all to say naw Hernandez killed him - he is guilty. No, who knows if Wallace or Ortiz didn't kill him? Evidence man - the only difference is that is obvious Hernandez was trying to get rid of evidence so at the very least he should be charge with accessory to murder, evidence tampering, accomplice to murder etc. The dude is going down.
no matter how you slice it...race has always and will always be a factor... Ppl take this and either take it to two extremes...They either are just so completely unrealistic and pretend we in some total utopian...colorless/sexual preference world....and take it as a personal attack...and totally dismiss it is in the realm of possibility.

Or you have the folks that are blatantly or covertly races/prejudice etc... and they just completely deflect use any and every tool they can to deny it.

Its like you got ppl you may say something like, hey looks like a have a bias/preference towards iuno white women/black woman whatever...they take it waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to the deep end and act as if you call them the kings nighmen captain of the klu klux klan. Or you got the dude who might as well be in k.k.k. and goes well and beyond his way to prove he isn't prejudice/bias...and try to act as if race is just some made up figment...and some tool ppl use to justify doing wrong.

Race again is a factor, is it the be all to end all in the case...who knows. I mean in most part no one is calling gz, a klansmen... but just because he didn't hang him, drag him behind a pick up truck, doesn't mean that when approaching or seeing tm, he viewed him differently, in part of it being his race. And that's how many ppl are viewing this. In particular whites. If I aint out lynching, burning crosses... tossing bottle bombs in churches...no way I view see ppl different according to race/sexual preference. And they see and view everything and everyone the EXACT same.
 
no matter how you slice it...race has always and will always be a factor... Ppl take this and either take it to two extremes...They either are just so completely unrealistic and pretend we in some total utopian...colorless/sexual preference world....and take it as a personal attack...and totally dismiss it is in the realm of possibility.

Or you have the folks that are blatantly or covertly races/prejudice etc... and they just completely deflect use any and every tool they can to deny it.

Its like you got ppl you may say something like, hey looks like a have a bias/preference towards iuno white women/black woman whatever...they take it waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to the deep end and act as if you call them the kings nighmen captain of the klu klux klan. Or you got the dude who might as well be in k.k.k. and goes well and beyond his way to prove he isn't prejudice/bias...and try to act as if race is just some made up figment...and some tool ppl use to justify doing wrong.

Race again is a factor, is it the be all to end all in the case...who knows. I mean in most part no one is calling gz, a klansmen... but just because he didn't hang him, drag him behind a pick up truck, doesn't mean that when approaching or seeing tm, he viewed him differently, in part of it being his race. And that's how many ppl are viewing this. In particular whites. If I aint out lynching, burning crosses... tossing bottle bombs in churches...no way I view see ppl different according to race/sexual preference. And they see and view everything and everyone the EXACT same.
Let me ask you something, did you listen to the initial 9/11 call?

If you did, in your opinion, was the description given was one of a suspicious person or a young innocent man?

Please discuss why thought it was ...
 
Why is the race being an issue here? He didn't even bring it up until asked! He gave a description of someone suspicious period.

Young (late teens) - walking looking at houses - with a hoodie - in the rain - now he is looking at me - now he is running.

Come on - if a cop was there - a cop would of have done the same ****!

The thing is that him walking and looking at houses can't be proven and most police are identifiable unlike GZ.
 
Let me ask you something, did you listen to the initial 9/11 call?

If you did, in your opinion, was the description given was one of a suspicious person or a young innocent man?

Please discuss why thought it was ...
Its not about his description...its about what initiated his reason for him thinking he was suspicious? He said one reason...but that's his response...and we don't know that to be true. We don't know that his clothing along with his race...was cause for him to be suspicious....yet you got ppl saying it is in the realm of impossible.

This reminds me I was out a best buy....in the pc section....mind you. and this I want to say middle aged white lady went past, where 3 best buy workers were, 2 being white, a dude...and a chic and a Asian guy...to ask me about has the jay-z album came out, and is it the in thing ppl want etc.... cause she was getting it for her son.

Am I saying this lady was damn near Nazi/klan status.... am I saying she targeted me with ill will, and wish death on me...and was going place a pipe bomb in my car when I left NO....But it was be naïve and foolish to think that despite, having 3 employees who work at the store, and was in the music section...and spoke to her, she walked passed all them to go waaaaaaaaaaaaay on the other side of the store to ask me about a product in the store...and dismiss asking the ppl WHO WORKED THERE.

Of course she saw me..and based on race, age etc... she figured hey he would know about this more then the white guy....who kinda looked redneckish. the skater looking white chick, or the Asian guy. And that was based on stereotypes...and this perceived notion based on those stereotypes.

Im not so clueless or blind to the fact that had it been about iuno a taylor swift album, that she would have dismissed the help of those three employees in the MUSIC SECTION to go waay to the pc section to ask me about a country pop album.

And that's how many of you guys are acting...as if stereotypes/race/preconceived notions based on race are irrelevant and don't exist.

Hell in early nt days we had the biggest problem with this...in particular with Asians/whites on the west coast who based I guess on where they are from and its acceptances, thought it was cool to through the N word around. But you had many blacks in particular southern ones who was like nah that ish aint cool and shouldn't fly. Was anyone saying all every white and Asian person on nt was on some deeply rooted hatred racist mindset etc....NO. But it did show that based on their interactions/preconceived notions etc...with blacks it was cool and acceptable. And based on those stereotypes/preconceived notions thought it was cool to do on nt.
 
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