President to propose free community college on Friday

[tay1]

More people need to learn a trade
Code/programming needs to be taught in every school across this nation from a young age
Learning how to trade stocks should be taught in junior high and high schools
Creative and critical thinking can't be thrust aside to appease standardized testing

There's a lot of issues on all levels right now.

Agreed. But we're a nation of workers, not a nation of thinkers, so I don't see this being implemented any time soon. And **** technology is already being worked on in which AI can program.

 

[rico x hood]

It's not harsh it's sad that people have to choose between doing something they actually are interested in vs something lucrative. That whole "I don't like what I do but it pays the bill" life isn't what I'm trying to live or what I would tell my children to do. I guess people are cool with being miserable as long as their rent is paid.

My god no one is saying don't do what you love. But don't sit here and complain to anyone about how hard you have it because YOU decided to throw caution to the wind and get a master's degree in crocheting and find out no one is hiring professional crocheters. Every passion is not a potential career field and if you're not a natural hard worker and lack the tenacity and fortitude to create a lane for your passion then yes be a "sell out" and get a degree in a good field.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

There's a great Ted talk out there about revolutionizing the education process with a more hands on approach. Listened to it at the gym yesterday. Wish I remembered the name of it.

Bring back the shop class. Have kids get their hands dirty learning how to rebuild a carburetor. Too much damn emphasis on standardize testing and regurgitating information that not enough people are learning anymore.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

More people need to learn a trade
Code/programming needs to be taught in every school across this nation from a young age

Learning how to trade stocks should be taught in junior high and high schools

Creative and critical thinking can't be thrust aside to appease standardized testing


There's a lot of issues on all levels right now.

Agreed. But we're a nation of workers, not a nation of thinkers, so I don't see this being implemented any time soon. And **** technology is already being worked on in which AI can program.

Seriously AI programming? Damn that's wild and dangerous. Elon Musk is right man they gotta be careful with AI.

 

[mr jordan04]

 
free college for everyone

The Germans are doing it.

And I'm sure the Germans don't give a bunch of free handouts at the tax payers expense

I wouldn't mind this "program." But how dudes above said, is this going to affect me? Am I paying more in taxes? How much more? It's easy for Obama to instill programs Cuz it isn't gonna cost him much. The normal American taxpayer is getting bent over by Uncle Sam in taxes.

I've got federal taxed over 25k last year and I didn't even make 100k.

 

[tay1]

And I'm sure the Germans don't give a bunch of free handouts at the tax payers expense

I wouldn't mind this "program." But how dudes above said, is this going to affect me? Am I paying more in taxes? How much more? It's easy for Obama to instill programs Cuz it isn't gonna cost him much. The normal American taxpayer is getting bent over by Uncle Sam in taxes.

I've got federal taxed over 25k last year and I didn't even make 100k.

Of course it's going to affect you, other things do as well.

Seriously

AI programming? Damn that's wild and dangerous. Elon Musk is right man they gotta be careful with AI.

Yeah, 4d printing as well, is kinda crazy. With 4d printing, objects can reshape themselves or self-assemble over time.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

4d printing is wild. Saw some videos on it a while back. Future is gonna be cool/scary.

 

[sea manup]

 

Seriously

AI programming? Damn that's wild and dangerous. Elon Musk is right man they gotta be careful with AI.

Yeah, 4d printing as well, is kinda crazy. With 4d printing, objects can reshape themselves or self-assemble over time.

4d printing is just 3d printing with materials that change shape under different conditions (usually heat or oxidization)

 

[tay1]

 
4d printing is just 3d printing with materials that change shape under different conditions (usually heat or oxidization)

Yeah I know. Point is that over time, machines are going to be doing all the programming that is needed now, and the fact that this technology is being created now, while most people have 0 programing knowledge is insane to me. It should be a fundamental skill at this point, with the rise of the importance of computer science. I don't expect people to be Software Developers and all that, but by the time folks are done with, I'd say HS, they should at least know C++.

 

[SoleByThePound]

To me, this shows me how far to the right we have moved politically. Higher Education was once seen as a public investment and starting in the late 1960's and increasingly in the 1980's, it came to be seen as an entirely private undertaking. In 1950, you could get a PhD from Berkeley and not pay a dime in tuition.

Ronald Reagan, as governor of California in the 1960's and as President in the 1980's, saw to it that Public Universities charged more and more to students. Combine that of the cynicism and profit motives of the ostensibly liberal administrators and we are now at a point that community colleges cost more today than UCLA charged in the 1960's.

Here comes Barack Obama with his hyper-timid style of liberalism. His bold new plan is to make community college free? Wow, he is to the left of Ronald Reagan on higher education fees! Although his is still to the right of Earl Warren, a Republican Governor of California, in the 1940's.

It's nice to see someone is actually educated on the history of higher education in this country. Anyone against free higher education in this country is a clown plain and simple.

 

[urbetterthenme]

Not excited about this at all.

How will we pay for it?

If everyone can go to a two year university, an associates degree will literally be worthless. I mean they aren't much now but it still sets you apart.

Taxes. I think its great. I mean a CC a this point is pretty much 13th and 14th grade. Might as well let people who wanna learn.... learn for free.

 

[urbetterthenme]

No. FASFA is just a loan. If you fail then you pay it back. If you graduate you pay it back. The longer you stay in school then you don't have to pay it back, until 6 months after you finish.

Grants and scholarship make school free. Not loans.

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Bruh FASFA provides help for students who can't afford school. So that means grants. The pell grant is free.

Aye when this proposal goes through, please sign up for classes ASAP

 

[sea manup]

 

 
4d printing is just 3d printing with materials that change shape under different conditions (usually heat or oxidization)

Yeah I know. Point is that over time, machines are going to be doing all the programming that is needed now, and the fact that this technology is being created now, while most people have 0 programing knowledge is insane to me. It should be a fundamental skill at this point, with the rise of the importance of computer science. I don't expect people to be Software Developers and all that, but by the time folks are done with, I'd say HS, they should at least know C++.

true, although its not too hard to learn programing if you put some effort into it. there are great free courses like codecademy.com

im taking a three month, 5 hour a week intensive ruby on rails course starting next month that only cost me 300 dollars

 

[urbetterthenme]

Obama been lightweight killin his second term

Bruh Gas is low, debt going down, school finna be free, weekly obama sports commentary. Dude really is the coolest president ever

 

[rude boy stylis]

Great move Mr. President. No more excuse not to get higher learning.

 

[tay1]

 
true, although its not too hard to learn programing if you put some effort into it. there are great free courses like codecademy.com

im taking a three month, 5 hour a week intensive ruby on rails course starting next month that only cost me 300 dollars

Yeah, but programming is best to learn when you have adequate time to develop. Most folks don't have the time later in life to learn a language. Taking a programming class in college isn't enough time and I have never gotten through an entire book for a course

 

[zapatohead408]

More people need to learn a trade
Code/programming needs to be taught in every school across this nation from a young age
Learning how to trade stocks should be taught in junior high and high schools
Creative and critical thinking can't be thrust aside to appease standardized testing

There's a lot of issues on all levels right now.

The funny thing is that in a lot of places community colleges double at trade schools

Dude was ranting and raving about needing workers rebuild our infrastructure (which is be expensive also), but community colleges are the perfect place to teach more people how to weld, plumbing, how to be an electrician, etc...

How is that expensive? I'm in my first year of my apprenticeship and have only paid for tools. Don't expect to be paying much more for it either.

You can pick up a trade at a community college, but that doesn't equal a good living all of the time. It requires more than just knowing the trade.

 

[trunks206]

Obama mentioned trying to implement something like this when he was first running. As another post in here mentioned he also said that he would try to tie in community service for the education and I was instantly behind the whole thing. Educating young people and bettering your community, what the **** is wrong with some of you miserable *****?

More free education => Educated young people + tons of young people doing community service in exchange (thus maybe it will become a lifelong habit) = better communities and quality of life for EVERYONE + educated minds equipped to tackle the problems in the future => Better for the country!


Miss me with the "how will we pay for it?/ more taxes!" argument. Close a couple bases we maintain around the world and we could EASILY pay for this proposal (and save some US servicemen's lives while we're at it) and nobody would have to pay a cent more.

Be honest alot of ya'll dudes dont want this because you wont benefit from it and thus are likely salty you had to pay, but best believe when you were 18 you would have LOVED this.

Stop being crabs in a bucket.

 

[RustyShackleford]

More people need to learn a trade
Code/programming needs to be taught in every school across this nation from a young age
Learning how to trade stocks should be taught in junior high and high schools
Creative and critical thinking can't be thrust aside to appease standardized testing

There's a lot of issues on all levels right now.

The funny thing is that in a lot of places community colleges double at trade schools

Dude was ranting and raving about needing workers rebuild our infrastructure (which is be expensive also), but community colleges are the perfect place to teach more people how to weld, plumbing, how to be an electrician, etc...

How is that expensive? I'm in my first year of my apprenticeship and have only paid for tools. Don't expect to be paying much more for it either.

You can pick up a trade at a community college, but that doesn't equal a good living all of the time. It requires more than just knowing the trade.

The expensive part was referring to the rebuilding of the infrastructure.

You suggested with need to focus on rebuilding our infrastructure, and I'm saying community colleges are a great place to trade the workers we need to do that

And of courses learning a trade doesn't guarantee a good living, neither does a engineering degree for that matter. This is about giving people the tools to build a career/future for themselves

This proposed program isn't trying to guarantee the happiness, it is trying to help with the pursuit.

 

[urbetterthenme]

Obama mentioned trying to implement something like this when he was first running. As another post in here mentioned he also said that he would try to tie in community service for the education and I was instantly behind the whole thing. Educating young people and bettering your community, what the **** is wrong with some of you miserable *****?

More free education => Educated young people + tons of young people doing community service in exchange (thus maybe it will become a lifelong habit) = better communities and quality of life for EVERYONE + educated minds equipped to tackle the problems in the future => Better for the country!


Miss me with the "how will we pay for it?/ more taxes!" argument. Close a couple bases we maintain around the world and we could EASILY pay for this proposal (and save some US servicemen's lives while we're at it) and nobody would have to pay a cent more.

Be honest alot of ya'll dudes dont want this because you wont benefit from it and thus are likely salty you had to pay, but best believe when you were 18 you would have LOVED this.

Stop being crabs in a bucket.

Some of the, need it but scared. Does that mean that the for profit colleges like ITT and Strayer go away?

 

[RustyShackleford]

Obama mentioned trying to implement something like this when he was first running. As another post in here mentioned he also said that he would try to tie in community service for the education and I was instantly behind the whole thing. Educating young people and bettering your community, what the **** is wrong with some of you miserable *****?


More free education => Educated young people + tons of young people doing community service in exchange (thus maybe it will become a lifelong habit) = better communities and quality of life for EVERYONE + educated minds equipped to tackle the problems in the future => Better for the country!



Miss me with the "how will we pay for it?/ more taxes!" argument. Close a couple bases we maintain around the world and we could EASILY pay for this proposal (and save some US servicemen's lives while we're at it) and nobody would have to pay a cent more.


Be honest alot of ya'll dudes dont want this because you wont benefit from it and thus are likely salty you had to pay, but best believe when you were 18 you would have LOVED this.


Stop being crabs in a bucket.

Some of the, need it but scared. Does that mean that the for profit colleges like ITT and Strayer go away?

This would be another positive

But I doubt it

 

[urbetterthenme]

This would be another positive

But I doubt it

They are the biggest scam ever man. Just terrible. Employers dont even value that mess.

 

[fontaine]

too many people growup learning that 4 years of a boring degree to get a boring office job is the only option 

this

 

[trunks206]

Obama mentioned trying to implement something like this when he was first running. As another post in here mentioned he also said that he would try to tie in community service for the education and I was instantly behind the whole thing. Educating young people and bettering your community, what the **** is wrong with some of you miserable *****?


More free education => Educated young people + tons of young people doing community service in exchange (thus maybe it will become a lifelong habit) = better communities and quality of life for EVERYONE + educated minds equipped to tackle the problems in the future => Better for the country!



Miss me with the "how will we pay for it?/ more taxes!" argument. Close a couple bases we maintain around the world and we could EASILY pay for this proposal (and save some US servicemen's lives while we're at it) and nobody would have to pay a cent more.


Be honest alot of ya'll dudes dont want this because you wont benefit from it and thus are likely salty you had to pay, but best believe when you were 18 you would have LOVED this.


Stop being crabs in a bucket.

Some of the, need it but scared. Does that mean that the for profit colleges like ITT and Strayer go away?

This would be another positive

But I doubt it

Agreed. The reason we have "for profit" schools popping up is because education at traditional universities is too damn expenive/exclusive, but as a country we still place an emphasis on it. For profit schools are sharks. There is a reason they play all that **** during the middle of the day for people who are out of work or are desperate.



Make education free ( and also make the cost of going to traditional schools afterwards far more affordable) and the US/world will be a better place. Cutting the cost of schooling => people will follow their passions and not what pays the most because they need to pay those loans back => better society overall!

 

[urbetterthenme]

Agreed. The reason we have "for profit" schools popping up is because education at traditional universities is too damn expenive/exclusive, but as a country we still place an emphasis on it. For profit schools are sharks. There is a reason they play all that **** during the middle of the day for people who are out of work or are desperate.

Make education free ( and also make the cost of going to traditional schools afterwards) and the world will be a better place. Cutting the cost of schooling => people will follow their passions and not what pays the most because they need to pay those loans back => better society overall!

man the amount of commercials for these schools and programs they show(especially during Maury and them Judge shows)