President to propose free community college on Friday

Dudes in here really complaining about how we gonna pay for this? This is an investment in our nations future
 
I'm telling you Obama is waiting for the 4th quarter (end of his presidency) to shoot a buzzer beater and become the greatest president ever 
 
"It's beauty in the struggle, ugliness in the success
Hear my words or listen to my signal of distress
I grew up in the city and though some times we had less
Compared to some of my ****** down the block man we were blessed"

Man c'mon now. Everyone opposed to this plan is entitled to their opinion to say " no," but you sorry *** idiots can't make up your own thread to bash the plan? You have to come into a positive thread just to send negative shots about what could happen? The federal reserve this, devaluing an associates degree that...*****.

Literally.

You won't be saying that when your kids are planning to go to college. You won't be saying that when your parents finally have the means to get back into school. Oh wait..everyone is going to be educated. The HORROR!

wait guys, lets not let everyone achieve success and rise in life. No..no...there must be a way to make myself feel better and up my value in life. Yes.....let's say screw the people who want to go back to school. Yea...that'll work.

Divide and Conquer. No wonder this country will stay at plateau. People want change but they only want it a certain way. People want change, but wont change themselves. People want laws, but won't talk to their senator. People want to lose weight but wont work out. People want IGNORANT people to stop being IGNORANT but don't want them to get a free education. 
 
Rexanglorum said:
To me, this shows me how far to the right we have moved politically. Higher Education was once seen as a public investment and starting in the late 1960's and increasingly in the 1980's, it came to be seen as an entirely private undertaking. In 1950, you could get a PhD from Berkeley and not pay a dime in tuition.

Ronald Reagan, as governor of California in the 1960's and as President in the 1980's, saw to it that Public Universities charged more and more to students. Combine that of the cynicism and profit motives of the ostensibly liberal administrators and we are now at a point that community colleges cost more today than UCLA charged in the 1960's.

Here comes Barack Obama with his hyper-timid style of liberalism. His bold new plan is to make community college free? Wow, he is to the left of Ronald Reagan on higher education fees! Although his is still to the right of Earl Warren, a Republican Governor of California, in the 1940's.
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The **** are you talking about?

:lol

Rex, these ****** don't read history books.
 
Aquatic Barefoot said:
Why aren't you all complaining this much over defense spending, or the billions (sometimes trillions) in corporate welfare/tax breaks?
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I complain about that **** all the time :lol

Us single Americans making decent money are getting bent over when it comes to being taxed
 
Aint a tomhawk missile worth like 50 kids' educations?
 
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Zyzz said:
How would that devalue a degree because more people have it?
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not everyone can afford to go to college because their parents dont make enough. So a smart child has to suffer and repeat the cycle of their parents because its some how their fault they cant get a better education?

SMH
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Because if everyone has one, what makes it special to make them more marketable? If everyone has one, then eventually to be marketable you'll have to have your masters and so on. 

Also who's paying for this? We don't have the money for this.
 
Dropten said:
Dudes in here really complaining about how we gonna pay for this? This is an investment in our nations future
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I'm curious as to what effect this will have. For one, will my taxes increase? If so, by how much? This would just be something that I or anybody in my family will never use.

My next concern is, what will this really do? If more people have associates degrees, employers will have more people to choose from. If one person is willing to do the job for 50, the next will come by and do it for 40 and so on. As it is, a college degree doesn't mean a damn thing. I see people with BS degrees in all sorts of stuff working at banks or some kind of restaurant and it amazes me.

If you can't get an education right now, it's because your lazy. There's FAFSA, scholarships, Loans ( :lol ) During the short amount of time I went to school I paid like $42 for classes at a community college. People that have no business being in school get into community college, many of those same people shouldn't be graduating high school. That's a damn joke for all the real scholars.

Back in the day, if you graduated high school it was because you we're actually at the top of your class. You didn't half *** your way through, go to a community college and get a degree in theater to get some BS job making 50K a year. You went to a university to become an engineer, teacher, etc.

I'll tell you guys right now from personal experience, many of my friends had no reason to graduate high school. I slept through a good 40% of high school and graduated with decent grades and passing all of my AP tests. High school is too damn easy as it is.

You wanna know what will really make a difference? Education reform.
Let's change the way our school system fails kids at a young age. Let's stop forecasting what our prison population will look like in years to come according to grade school reading levels. This will make people more intelligent and allow them to further themselves in their later years when they have the option of going to college after graduating high school.

WHY ARE WE PUSHING FOR THIS WHEN OUR COUNTRY HAS A SHORTAGE OF SKILLED LABOR TO REBUILD OUR INFRASTRUCTURE?!
 
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I do understand the worry about credential inflation. To that I say two things. We need to figure out how to make it so that people without post secondary degrees who work with their hands can make a lot more money. Also, we need to make it so that people, who have a bachelors degree yet do not have a Wharton MBA or a Yale JD, can make make a better living as well. Those things go to the heart of our public economic decisions and they expand way beyond educational policy.

I also want to add that, we should decouple education from economic considerations. Have the government figure out a way to have unemployment below 5.0% and wages will go up and employers will take on the task of job specific training. Meanwhile, serious students should be able to study up through grad school and if they are poor, the state should pay for that schooling. Education is both a public and a private good. More Americans with degrees and advanced degrees in the Humanities would very much improve this country.
 
Rexanglorum said:
I do understand the worry about credential inflation. To that I say two things. We need to figure out how to make it so that people without post secondary degrees who work with their hands can make a lot more money. Also, we need to make it so that people, who have a bachelors degree yet do not have a Wharton MBA or a Yale JD, can make make a better living as well. Those things go to the heart of our public economic decisions and they expand way beyond educational policy.

I also want to add that, we should decouple education from economic considerations. Have the government figure out a way to have unemployment below 5.0% and wages will go up and employers will take on the task of job specific training. Meanwhile, serious students should be able to study up through grad school and if they are poor, the state should pay for that schooling. Education is both a public and a private good. More Americans with degrees and advanced degrees in the Humanities would very much improve this country.
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I agree with this. Let's help students pay back their loans. Cut their interest rates and give them tax breaks. How are you gonna be successful starting off a career being 50K+ in the hole?

As for the people who work with their hands who don't or do have post secondary degrees, that duty lies on them. Join a union, demand what you're worth. Depending on the trade you're already making a lot more than many people with degrees.
 
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