President to propose free community college on Friday

[heliumclinton]

The incentive of going to college is furthering your education, getting a degree, and hopefully find a good job and not have to go through life struggling. If that isn't enough incentive for people then college isn't for you. How much more incentive do pepole need to want to better themselves? It's ridiculous.

Not graduating with debt before grad school is another incentive

 

[Top Boy]

The incentive of going to college is furthering your education, getting a degree, and hopefully find a good job and not have to go through life struggling. If that isn't enough incentive for people then college isn't for you. How much more incentive do pepole need to want to better themselves? It's ridiculous.

....You're projecting yourself onto others as if your mindset is the only one that matters.

What may be incentive for you may not be enough for the students this is aimed at, which is mostly middle class students that receive next to no aid and without scholarship would most likely have to take on debt.

Like I said above, lower income students are already covered and then some. Not trying to turn this into some page long shouting match though.

 

[sharkin]

**** this, give me student loan reform

 

[thenewjs23]

THERES NO SUCH THING AS FREE

 

[omariwestafari]

reportedly it cost 60 billion

 

[Coromanti]

reportedly it cost 60 billion

Iraq war costed a trillion, bailout of wall street cost ~700 billion, how about we spend some money on the public who pays the taxes that financed that tomfoolery.

 

[fontaine]

I find it funny when cats name all these Americans who became billionaires without a degree when most were Crooks or Geniuses, lol Folks act like Bill Gates didnt drop out of an IVY LEAGUE and trying to compare that to some cat looking into 2 yrs free at a community college LOL.

anytime someone brings up Bill Gates, Richard Bronson, or Steve Jobs, I IMMEDIATELY discount everything they say afterwards.

Dudes bringing in once in a lifetime geniuses and comparing them to average joes.

Iraq war costed a trillion, bailout of wall street cost ~700 billion, how about we spend some money on the public who pays the taxes that financed that tomfoolery.

chill w/ all that logic, famb.

we dont need that here.

 

[leclutchjames]

@ the FAFSA confusion

Anyway. I think this is a great idea.

But never forget college/universities are a business first.

Also No ones really trying to learn anymore. More so just pass a class.

 

[rico x hood]

How an I projecting? Those are literally the reasons why anyone would go to college. Full disclosure, I am a middle class dude. Took out some loans to attend NVCC here in NoVa. College wasn't for me so I stopped going. Currently paying back the $2000 I borrowed. Worked some odd jobs for a while because I couldn't find anything stable. Then I somehow slipped and fell into my current job (Home Inspector) money is good, job isn't stressful at all, 40 hours a week, a straighost up 9-5 And it's field that will always be around and I can do it anywhere. So as of right now I'm good without a degree. But I'll tell you all this, if this ever falls through and I can't find work again, I'll be back in school. Because college is still the best way to ensure a prosperous future. But it should not be free (unless you have a grant or scholarship) because I shouldn't have to pay for it.

 

[$tatus $ymbol]

Idiots left & right in here. As usual a lot of you jaded by your own little bubble assuming everyone's situation is the same. Lots of ppl get screwed over & aren't able to receive financial aid bc of what their parents make. If it hadn't been for mine being able to pay out of pocket id be in the same boat or be in debt for most of my life. Y'all never cease to amaze me with the foolery on here.

 

[heliumclinton]

How an I projecting? Those are literally the reasons why anyone would go to college. Full disclosure, I am a middle class dude. Took out some loans to attend NVCC here in NoVa. College wasn't for me so I stopped going. Currently paying back the $2000 I borrowed. Worked some odd jobs for a while because I couldn't find anything stable. Then I somehow slipped and fell into my current job (Home Inspector) money us good, jojob is stressful at all. And it's field that will always be around and I can do it anywhere. So as of right now I'm good without a degree. But I'll tell you all this, if this ever falls through and I can't find work again, I'll be back in school. Because college is still the best way to ensure a prosperous future m

you still paying back your little 2K from CC and telling people who actually want a education and want to stay in school to rack up even more loans

Interesting

 

[HEATHEN]

THERES NO SUCH THING AS FREE

Word up, someones gotta pay and it ain't going to be me. I've got two kids of my own whose college fund I'm footing, one of whom is autistic.

Listen, if we're talking disadvantaged, disenfranchised minority kids then yes, I'm for this move. But if its all inclusive no, just no. I can't be taking care of other middle class family's kids, I just can't.

For ***** sake man, the defense budget is already exorbitantly high enough as it is. A man needs to be able to enjoy the fruits of his labor without being penalized for making good money. Tax hikes don't hurt the poor or rich, always the middle class.

 

[fontaine]

I'll say it again...

Student loan wasn't a problem until these colleges started hiking up their tuition rates.

Much of these problems would be fixed if the state colleges weren't able to hike their rates up in the manner that they do.

 

[heliumclinton]

THERES NO SUCH THING AS FREE

Word up, someones gotta pay and it ain't going to be me. I've got two kids of my own whose college fund I'm footing, one of whom is autistic.

Listen, if we're talking disadvantaged, disenfranchised minority kids then yes, I'm for this move. But if its all inclusive no, just no. I can't be taking care of other middle class family's kids, I just can't.

You know how many other things you're paying for? @ it ain't gonna be me like you got a choice

 

[rico x hood]

you still paying back your little 2K from CC and telling people who actually want a education and want to stay in school to rack up even more loans

Interesting

I left school last spring. I just had to start paying them back because I didn't re enroll. It's $76 a month. So I'm not saddled with student loan debt. But yea I definitely am encouraging taking out loans if you don't have any other means. Your debt and your responsibility are your responsibility. No one elses.

 

[sundoobie]

The feds would pony up three-quarters of the “average cost” of community college;
Students would be expected to enroll at least half-time, maintain a 2.5 GPA, and make steady progress toward completing a degree in three years;
Community colleges would have to offer academic programs that fully transfer to four-year colleges or occupational programs in high demand fields with high completion rates. They’d also have to implement “promising evidence-based institutional reforms” to improve

I am 50/50 on this. Yes it would be great to subsidize free education and generally having a more educated public. However we all know a ton of these boneheads don't even belong in high school much less college. I just hope the program has a strict application process to distinguish which students will succeed/benefit. Last thing these overcrowded colleges need are a bunch of knuckleheads that barely pass high school and only want to go to college for ulterior motives like picking up girls, or selling drugs.

 

[heliumclinton]

you still paying back your little 2K from CC and telling people who actually want a education and want to stay in school to rack up even more loans

Interesting

I left school last spring. I just had to start paying them back because I didn't re enroll. It's $76 a month. So I'm not saddled with student loan debt. But yea I definitely am encouraging taking out loans if you don't have any other means. Your debt and your responsibility are your responsibility. No one elses.

And I definitely encourage not having student loans and not having 21 year olds with thousands of dollars in debt before their life starts

 

[airuphere23]

Only people I can see with a real issue are the people who have paid out of pocket and/or racked up student loan debt by attending school.

However, Obama's provision is that the student in high school would have to maintain a certain GPA to be qualified for free community college tuition. Obviously, those people with issues with this should get some kinda compensation back from the US government for paying exorbitant fees, but we all know that is not what is going to happen...

I'm good though. I am attending college with my GI Bill but if I had to pay out of pocket for awhile, I'd be mad too..lol

 

[HEATHEN]

You know how many other things you're paying for? @ it ain't gonna be me like you got a choice

Not ignorant to the things my tax dollars go to and I have long been a proponent of more tax dollars going into education BUT at the expense of the defense budget.

If we want this to happen stop going to war and funding proxy wars. Stop sending money to Israel and heal our nation.

 

[mryolo]

Lolz, what a joke. Like adding more PUBLIC spending on education the past several decades has actually reversed America's downward spiral into idiocracy. Adult fast food workers demanding $15 for flipping fake meat? Goto hs school, make decent grades, get loans/grants, college degree and you got at least a 20-30k job. But making excuses and taking selfies is always easier than actually working. Student debt is nothing new, just ballooned bc of fast food colleges like Phoenix trap people with debt and a worthless degree. Hell, goto trade school for 2 years and the world is yours if you have a learned SKILL.

Public schools need to be subsidized by major companies with endless funds in exchange for their sponsorship, like a stadium.  Teachers deserve to be paid more. **** naming a school after someone dead, let Coke or Pepsi buy the rights yearly and everyone will be riding to classes on segways. 

 

[hennessy]

It's only free on Friday? Kind of a ripoff IMO. I always schedule my classes to have Friday off.

 

[wrightone86]

I'm at work and people here mad at this purely off of the fact that is wasn't around when they went to school and they have to pay student loans

I told them it is only 2 years at a community college. They will either have a certificate of completing courses or an associates degree....in which, they will still have to go to college and get a bachelor's degree of some sort. They will have to either get a job with said associate's degree or...get loans/grants just like they did.

The issue is not everyone qualifies for all grants/loans/scholarships that are out there, and some aren't around the proper people to get them to the free money that they could be getting as well.

I told them that one could tell them that they should've looked harder for the free money and it is their own fault that they have student loans in the first place.

Out of all the things this country spends/wastes money on, I am not going to go against trying to provide education to anyone in the US that actually wants to improve themselves in that area. But it was ok to bail out multi-billion dollar car manufacturers though?

My family consists primarily of DoD workers and/or teachers & principals, so I see the education shortcomings and issues and also the wasteful spending with the gov't.

Along with that though....student loans are outrageous and make many younger people feel like they will never break free of them. Some look at them as another mortgage loan in the essence that it is a 30-yr loan

My wife has some (like ~30k) and before she found her job after school it was a few months. Even then, she just took a bank job to have something coming in. She was making like ~28k and they wanted her to pay $800/month

. They even denied her economic hardship claims and did not even consider the fact that she needed to pay for the basics in life (transportation, groceries, place to live, etc).

We have another friend who went to law school and is a lawyer now....she is in the $150k+ range for student loan debt! They wanted her to pay ~$1600 range a month. That seriously is a mortgage payment right there. Her only saving grace is that she can be a state employee for 10 years and they will pay off the debt for her. She is a lawyer for a county....the only downside to this....the year that they pay of her loans, it will appear on her taxes as if she received this money as a "bonus", so she will have to claim it basically as a lottery payment from what they have told her. She is still going to have to pay taxes on that student loan payment

 

[blaz3n]

No reason to be mad at this, as a nation it helps us improve.. shouldn't be worried about your degree being devauled. If that's the case, get a Bachelors, Masters, MBA or Doctorate.

 

[4318michaeljohnson4318]

No reason to be mad at all. A more educated population in my opinion will lead to higher quality jobs being the new standard. There are certain industry that do need more labor and these 2 year degrees can help facilitate that.

 

[biggie62]

I'm at work and people here mad at this purely off of the fact that is wasn't around when they went to school and they have to pay student loans

I told them it is only 2 years at a community college. They will either have a certificate of completing courses or an associates degree....in which, they will still have to go to college and get a bachelor's degree of some sort. They will have to either get a job with said associate's degree or...get loans/grants just like they did.

The issue is not everyone qualifies for all grants/loans/scholarships that are out there, and some aren't around the proper people to get them to the free money that they could be getting as well.

I told them that one could tell them that they should've looked harder for the free money and it is their own fault that they have student loans in the first place.

Out of all the things this country spends/wastes money on, I am not going to go against trying to provide education to anyone in the US that actually wants to improve themselves in that area. But it was ok to bail out multi-billion dollar car manufacturers though?

My family consists primarily of DoD workers and/or teachers & principals, so I see the education shortcomings and issues and also the wasteful spending with the gov't.

Along with that though....student loans are outrageous and make many younger people feel like they will never break free of them. Some look at them as another mortgage loan in the essence that it is a 30-yr loan :x

My wife has some (like ~30k) and before she found her job after school it was a few months. Even then, she just took a bank job to have something coming in. She was making like ~28k and they wanted her to pay $800/month :x . They even denied her economic hardship claims and did not even consider the fact that she needed to pay for the basics in life (transportation, groceries, place to live, etc).

We have another friend who went to law school and is a lawyer now....she is in the $150k+ range for student loan debt! They wanted her to pay ~$1600 range a month. That seriously is a mortgage payment right there. Her only saving grace is that she can be a state employee for 10 years and they will pay off the debt for her. She is a lawyer for a county....the only downside to this....the year that they pay of her loans, it will appear on her taxes as if she received this money as a "bonus", so she will have to claim it basically as a lottery payment from what they have told her. She is still going to have to pay taxes on that student loan payment

I went to private school all my life and was on financial aid during all my years there. When I was a Sophmore, we had financial planners coming to school to help prep families for how to reduce their "income" and their assets in such a way to maximize grants and scholarships received. I mean for me it was helpful as my mom had an easier time in helping to fund my undergrad tuition. But I had friends whose parents were pulling in combined incomes over close to a million getting grants and scholarships that they shouldn't be receiving.

But it is what it is.