Official State of the Union Address

[8tothe24]

Originally Posted by p0tat0 5alad

Originally Posted by Mr Fizzy Womack

Being openly gay in the military will NOT be a good thing...

I have no problem with gays in the military, but it's a stigma you do NOT want around the good ol' boys.

Both my parents were in the military and they pretty much knew when someone was gay or not after being around them long enough. I don't see why its such a big deal. Granted, I could see the military housing alot more anti-gay people than many other professions but still, its long overdue.

I don't know what to feel, which way about it.  Because it should be us over them (to clarify, I mean our opponents) everytime when it comes to American soldiers.  I am just curious if this is going to open up lawsuits from the gay community against the US armed forces.
  

 

[capricorn1229]

Originally Posted by Essential1

Originally Posted by Mr Fizzy Womack

Being openly gay in the military will NOT be a good thing...

I have no problem with gays in the military, but it's a stigma you do NOT want around the good ol' boys.

Are gay people citizens of this country?

Then they should be allowed to serve as who they are...

The only people who have a problem are those who can't handle it because they are intolerant..

QFT.

I know A LOT of people in Afghanistan right now who are not fans of Obama... They prefer the way Bush ran things. Just sayin'

Oh do you? I have an some uncles over there. They prefer the way Obama runs things. What's your point?

 

[knightngale]

Originally Posted by nnarum

He's right though... How are we going to have a 1,000 page proposal no one has fully read? And they want to pass it before someone reads it? Fishy...

are you talking about obama? cause he wanted to pass it as soon as possible
I don't think he cared if anyone had read it as long as it passed

 

[born tuesday]

Brian Williams just called them out about that diversity ASAP

 

[nnarum]

Originally Posted by knightngale

Originally Posted by nnarum

He's right though... How are we going to have a 1,000 page proposal no one has fully read? And they want to pass it before someone reads it? Fishy...

are you talking about obama? cause he wanted to pass it as soon as possible
I don't think he cared if anyone had read it as long as it passed

Doesn't that seem a bit careless though? I don't just eat things without knowing what they are, it could harm me...

 

[oidreez]

i missed obama's part.... where to rewatch?

 

[bluedeniro]

republicians turning they swag on with this diverse crowd in VA, the game is dirty and im glad im pay attention instead of watching sportcenter right now

 

[shaunhillftw49]

Originally Posted by nnarum

Originally Posted by knightngale

Originally Posted by nnarum

He's right though... How are we going to have a 1,000 page proposal no one has fully read? And they want to pass it before someone reads it? Fishy...

are you talking about obama? cause he wanted to pass it as soon as possible
I don't think he cared if anyone had read it as long as it passed

Doesn't that seem a bit careless though? I don't just eat things without knowing what they are, it could harm me...

Lies

 

[knightngale]

Originally Posted by nnarum

Originally Posted by knightngale

Originally Posted by nnarum

He's right though... How are we going to have a 1,000 page proposal no one has fully read? And they want to pass it before someone reads it? Fishy...

are you talking about obama? cause he wanted to pass it as soon as possible
I don't think he cared if anyone had read it as long as it passed

Doesn't that seem a bit careless though? I don't just eat things without knowing what they are, it could harm me...

yes it is careless which is why I am complaining about transparency
those bills should be put online for anyone to read before they pass

 

[nnarum]

Originally Posted by knightngale

Originally Posted by nnarum

Originally Posted by knightngale

Originally Posted by nnarum

He's right though... How are we going to have a 1,000 page proposal no one has fully read? And they want to pass it before someone reads it? Fishy...

are you talking about obama? cause he wanted to pass it as soon as possible
I don't think he cared if anyone had read it as long as it passed

Doesn't that seem a bit careless though? I don't just eat things without knowing what they are, it could harm me...

yes it is careless which is why I am complaining about transparency
those bills should be put online for anyone to read before they pass

I know, I was just using an example

 

[lesfamilia]

Originally Posted by nnarum

BTW, I know A LOT of people in Afghanistan right now who are not fans of Obama... They prefer the way Bush ran things. Just sayin'

And there have been folks who have come back from the desert saying the same things at two of our largest bases: Fort Bragg, North Carolina and Fort Hood, Texas.

What many people on the outside don't realize is that the longer this war goes on, the fatter those soldiers' pockets get.  Now please don't get me wrong: I understand that what goes on overseas leaves an indelible imprint upon the temperament of those who go over there to protect our country.  But the only reason a lot of soldiers liked Bush's way of doing things was because they knew that if they could just make it back home, they would get out with a great deal of money in their hands.

Again, I hear what you're saying, but this is what I've heard from someone working for the government at an army base.  And hearing it time and time again only makes me feel like it's as true as anything.

 

[8tothe24]

Originally Posted by Essential1

Originally Posted by 8tothe24

Essential1 wrote:

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Originally Posted by Capricorn1229

Essential1 wrote:

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6.5/10..

He needs to realize that those guys mocking him, laughing at him, talking under their breathe, and disrespect him DO NOT WANT TO WORK WITH HIM.. They truly hate him as a person and everything he stands for... So the appeasement of the Republicans is %%%#$*% ridiculous... Grow a set and run over them.

You don't like Obama?

As a person, yes... As a politician, I voted for him, campaigned for him, and defended him. I'd love nothing more than support him.. But this guy is appeasing Republicans way too much. He needs to drop the Bipartisanship line because it is @++$!#@+ when Republicans hate him.. Let it go, and do progressive agenda. Go to the left not the center right on everything..

   I understand your feelings.  But what you don't see is he doesn't appease the Republicrats.  He has locked them out of all forms of negotiations and only is changing his tone because he lost his super majority.  And his progressive agenda and moving farther left, which he wants this country to do, is exactly why voters in Massachusetts said no and voters around the country will.  The majority of Americans want to get back to the basics and fix our economy, end these wars (while protecting ourselves from terrorism).  They don't want to move to a progressive socialist America.  Tonight he sunk his feet in the mud and could very well come back to bite him in this years elections.
lol...The polls of Democrats/Independents who voted for Obama and either stayed home or voted for Brown say 100% different... But no point of bringing those up because you will never cease the argument. It's ok



lol, the polls huh?  And what polls are these and how many were polled. Well, the numbers speak otherwise; a highly Democratic voting state said otherwise. I know you like to spit talking point rhetoric on NT, as yourself just said you campaigned for Obama.  And if you mean never, ceasing the argument, as just taking your word for fact because you said so... o.k.

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[justscoreda100]

Wow, MSNBC is a joke. Instead of actually having a substantive analysis of the republican response, they instead choose to talk about how no one knows him, and how there were no recognizable in the crowd.

 

[nnarum]

Originally Posted by JustScoreda100

Wow, MSNBC is a joke. Instead of actually having a substantive analysis of the republican response, they instead choose to talk about how no one knows him, and how there were no recognizable in the crowd.

They cater to their audiences. Same with Fox. Nothing new.

 

[essential1]

Originally Posted by 8tothe24

Originally Posted by Essential1

Originally Posted by 8tothe24

Essential1 wrote:

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Originally Posted by Capricorn1229

Essential1 wrote:

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6.5/10..

He needs to realize that those guys mocking him, laughing at him, talking under their breathe, and disrespect him DO NOT WANT TO WORK WITH HIM.. They truly hate him as a person and everything he stands for... So the appeasement of the Republicans is %%%#$*% ridiculous... Grow a set and run over them.

You don't like Obama?

As a person, yes... As a politician, I voted for him, campaigned for him, and defended him. I'd love nothing more than support him.. But this guy is appeasing Republicans way too much. He needs to drop the Bipartisanship line because it is @++$!#@+ when Republicans hate him.. Let it go, and do progressive agenda. Go to the left not the center right on everything..

   I understand your feelings.  But what you don't see is he doesn't appease the Republicrats.  He has locked them out of all forms of negotiations and only is changing his tone because he lost his super majority.  And his progressive agenda and moving farther left, which he wants this country to do, is exactly why voters in Massachusetts said no and voters around the country will.  The majority of Americans want to get back to the basics and fix our economy, end these wars (while protecting ourselves from terrorism).  They don't want to move to a progressive socialist America.  Tonight he sunk his feet in the mud and could very well come back to bite him in this years elections.

lol...The polls of Democrats/Independents who voted for Obama and either stayed home or voted for Brown say 100% different... But no point of bringing those up because you will never cease the argument. It's ok



lol, the polls huh?  And what polls are these and how many were polled. Well, the numbers speak otherwise; a highly Democratic voting state said otherwise. I know you like to spit talking point rhetoric on NT, as yourself just said you campaigned for Obama.  And if you mean never, ceasing the argument, as just taking your word for fact because you said so... o.k.

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HEALTH CARE BILL OPPONENTS THINK IT "DOESN'T GO FAR ENOUGH"

• by 3 to 2 among Obama voters who voted for Brown
• by 6 to 1 among Obama voters who stayed home

(18% of Obama supporters who voted supported Brown.)

VOTERS OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORT THE PUBLIC OPTION

• 82% of Obama voters who voted for Brown
• 86% of Obama voters who stayed home

OBAMA VOTERS WANT DEMOCRATS TO BE BOLDER

• 57% of Brown voters say Obama "not delivering enough" on change he promised
• 49% to 37% among voters who stayed home

PLUS: Obama voters overwhelming want bold economic populism from Democrats in 2010.
[h2]OBAMA VOTERS WHO VOTED BROWN[/h2][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: Would you favor or oppose the national government offering everyone the choice of a government administered health insurance plan -- something like the Medicare coverage that people 65 and older get -- that would compete with private health insurance plans?[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]FAVOR[/th][th=""]OPPOSE[/th][th=""]NOT SURE[/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]82%[/td][td]14%[/td][td]4%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]79%[/td][td]18%[/td][td]3%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]85%[/td][td]10%[/td][td]5% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]89%[/td][td]7%[/td][td]4%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]68%[/td][td]24%[/td][td]8%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]83%[/td][td]13%[/td][td]4% [/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: Do you favor or oppose the health care reform proposal recently passed by the U.S. Senate?[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]FAVOR[/th][th=""]OPPOSE[/th][th=""]NOT SURE[/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]32%[/td][td]48%[/td][td]20%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]29%[/td][td]52%[/td][td]19%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]35%[/td][td]44%[/td][td]21% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]42%[/td][td]46%[/td][td]12%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]11%[/td][td]68%[/td][td]21%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]33%[/td][td]47%[/td][td]20% [/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: If oppose, do you think it goes too far or doesn't go far enough? [/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]NOT ENOUGH[/th][th=""]TOO FAR[/th][th=""]NOT SURE[/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]36%[/td][td]23%[/td][td]41%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]34%[/td][td]26%[/td][td]40%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]38%[/td][td]20%[/td][td]42% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]49%[/td][td]18%[/td][td]33%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]11%[/td][td]61%[/td][td]28%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]38%[/td][td]20%[/td][td]42%[/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: Generally speaking do you think Barack Obama and Democrats in Washington, DC are delivering enough on the change Obama promised to bring to America during the campaign? [/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]YES[/th][th=""]NO[/th][th=""]NOT SURE [/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]31%[/td][td]57%[/td][td]12%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]30%[/td][td]60%[/td][td]10%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]32%[/td][td]54%[/td][td]14% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]36%[/td][td]55%[/td][td]9%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]6%[/td][td]69%[/td][td]25%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]33%[/td][td]56%[/td][td]11% [/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: Generally speaking, do you think Democrats in Washington, DC are fighting hard enough to challenge the Republican policies of the Bush years, aren't fighting hard enough to change those policies, or are fighting about right?[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]NOT ENOUGH[/th][th=""]TOO HARD[/th][th=""]ABOUT RIGHT[/th][th=""]NOT SURE[/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]37%[/td][td]15%[/td][td]21%[/td][td]27%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]34%[/td][td]19%[/td][td]18%[/td][td]29%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]40%[/td][td]11%[/td][td]24%[/td][td]25% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]45%[/td][td]8%[/td][td]35%[/td][td]12%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]12%[/td][td]47%[/td][td]5%[/td][td]36%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]39%[/td][td]13%[/td][td]21%[/td][td]27% [/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: Is the issue of national health care reform very important, somewhat important, or not important when deciding how or if to vote?[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]VERY[/th][th=""]SOME[/th][th=""]NOT[/th][th=""]NOT SURE[/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]
[/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]32%[/td][td]35%[/td][td]13%[/td][td]20%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]30%[/td][td]34%[/td][td]15%[/td][td]21%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]34%[/td][td]36%[/td][td]11%[/td][td]19% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]37%[/td][td]41%[/td][td]7%[/td][td]15%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]25%[/td][td]28%[/td][td]25%[/td][td]22%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]32%[/td][td]35%[/td][td]12%[/td][td]21% [/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: Would you favor or oppose requiring all Americans to buy health insurance from private companies -- the so-called mandate -- even if they find insurance too expensive or do not want it?[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]FAVOR[/th][th=""]OPPOSE[/th][th=""]NOT SURE[/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]30%[/td][td]59%[/td][td]11%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]32%[/td][td]57%[/td][td]11%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]34%[/td][td]53%[/td][td]13% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]38%[/td][td]51%[/td][td]11%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]9%[/td][td]82%[/td][td]9%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]31%[/td][td]58%[/td][td]11% [/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: Is the issue of the economy very important, somewhat important, or not important when deciding how or if to vote?[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]VERY[/th][th=""]SOME[/th][th=""]NOT VERY[/th][th=""]NOT SURE [/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]48%[/td][td]47%[/td][td]3%[/td][td]2%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]50%[/td][td]46%[/td][td]3%[/td][td]1%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]46%[/td][td]48%[/td][td]3%[/td][td]3% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]51%[/td][td]44%[/td][td]2%[/td][td]3%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]37%[/td][td]50%[/td][td]7%[/td][td]6%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]49%[/td][td]47%[/td][td]3%[/td][td]1% [/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: Which candidate in Tuesday's special election for Senate did a better job of representing you and your family on economic issues: Republican Scott Brown or Democrat Martha Coakley ?[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]COAKLEY[/th][th=""]BROWN[/th][th=""]NEITHER [/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]13%[/td][td]25%[/td][td]62% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]10%[/td][td]29%[/td][td]61%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]16%[/td][td]21%[/td][td]63% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]16%[/td][td]17%[/td][td]67%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]6%[/td][td]42%[/td][td]52%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]13%[/td][td]24%[/td][td]63% [/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: If the Democratic Congress passed a bill that laid down stronger rules of the road for Wall Street and cut bonuses for the executives of companies that received government bailouts, would that make you more likely or less likely to vote Democratic in the 2010 general election?[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]MORE[/th][th=""]LESS[/th][th=""]NO AFFECT [/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]53%[/td][td]14%[/td][td]33%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]50%[/td][td]15%[/td][td]35%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]56%[/td][td]13%[/td][td]31% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]61%[/td][td]7%[/td][td]32%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]21%[/td][td]27%[/td][td]52%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]55%[/td][td]13%[/td][td]32% [/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: What would do more to improve our nation's economic conditions: Decreasing government spending OR tightening government regulation of Wall Street and corporate executives?[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]TIGHTEN[/th][th=""]DECREASE[/th][th=""]NOT SURE [/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]43%[/td][td]25%[/td][td]32%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]40%[/td][td]29%[/td][td]31% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]46%[/td][td]21%[/td][td]33% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]54%[/td][td]21%[/td][td]25%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]21%[/td][td]56%[/td][td]23%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]44%[/td][td]23%[/td][td]33% [/td] [/tr][/table]
I'm going to read you several pairs of statements and would like for you to tell us which comes closest to your point of view.
[table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: Democrats in Washington are more on my side than on the side of the lobbyists and special interests, OR
Democrats in Washington are more on the side of the lobbyists and special interests than on the side of people like me.[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]LOBBYISTS[/th][th=""]MY SIDE[/th][th=""]NOT SURE[/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]47%[/td][td]23%[/td][td]30%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]49%[/td][td]20%[/td][td]31%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]45%[/td][td]26%[/td][td]29% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]46%[/td][td]29%[/td][td]25%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]35%[/td][td]9%[/td][td]56%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]48%[/td][td]24%[/td][td]28% [/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: When Democrats took power, they really changed things in Washington, OR
When Democrats took power, they didn't change much about how Washington works.[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]NO CHANGE[/th][th=""]CHANGE[/th][th=""]NOT SURE[/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]52%[/td][td]23%[/td][td]25%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]56%[/td][td]21%[/td][td]23%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]48%[/td][td]25%[/td][td]27% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]49%[/td][td]29%[/td][td]22%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]57%[/td][td]5%[/td][td]38%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]52%[/td][td]24%[/td][td]24% [/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: Democrats economic policy is more focused on helping Wall Street than helping main street, OR
Democrats' economic policy is more focused on helping Main Street than helping wall street.[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]MAIN[/th][th=""]WALL[/th][th=""]NOT SURE[/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]31%[/td][td]51%[/td][td]18%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]30%[/td][td]53%[/td][td]17%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]32%[/td][td]49%[/td][td]19%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]45%[/td][td]50%[/td][td]5%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]17%[/td][td]31%[/td][td]52%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]31%[/td][td]53%[/td][td]16% [/td] [/tr][/table][h2]OBAMA VOTERS WHO STAYED HOME[/h2] [table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: Generally speaking do you think Barack Obama and Democrats in Washington, DC are delivering enough on the change Obama promised to bring to America during the campaign? [/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]YES[/th][th=""]NO[/th][th=""]NOT SURE [/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]37%[/td][td]49%[/td][td]14%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]35%[/td][td]52%[/td][td]13%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]39%[/td][td]46%[/td][td]15% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]39%[/td][td]47%[/td][td]14%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]4%[/td][td]67%[/td][td]29%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]28%[/td][td]59%[/td][td]13% [/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: Generally speaking, do you think Democrats in Washington, DC are fighting hard enough to challenge the Republican policies of the Bush years, aren't fighting hard enough to change those policies, or are fighting about right?[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]NOT ENOUGH[/th][th=""]TOO HARD[/th][th=""]ABOUT RIGHT[/th][th=""]NOT SURE[/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]39%[/td][td]12%[/td][td]25%[/td][td]24%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]36%[/td][td]16%[/td][td]23%[/td][td]25%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]42%[/td][td]8%[/td][td]27%[/td][td]23% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]41%[/td][td]10%[/td][td]26%[/td][td]23%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]5%[/td][td]43%[/td][td]3%[/td][td]49%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]32%[/td][td]25%[/td][td]18%[/td][td]25% [/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: Is the issue of national health care reform very important, somewhat important, or not important when deciding how or if to vote?[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]VERY[/th][th=""]SOME[/th][th=""]NOT[/th][th=""]NOT SURE [/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]36%[/td][td]38%[/td][td]9%[/td][td]17%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]32%[/td][td]35%[/td][td]13%[/td][td]20% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]40%[/td][td]41%[/td][td]5%[/td][td]14% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]38%[/td][td]40%[/td][td]7%[/td][td]15%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]14%[/td][td]16%[/td][td]29%[/td][td]41%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]26%[/td][td]28%[/td][td]18%[/td][td]28% [/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: Do you favor or oppose the health care reform proposal recently passed by the U.S. Senate?[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]FAVOR[/th][th=""]OPPOSE[/th][th=""]NOT SURE[/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]34%[/td][td]43%[/td][td]23%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]32%[/td][td]46%[/td][td]22%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]36%[/td][td]40%[/td][td]24% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]36%[/td][td]41%[/td][td]23%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]7%[/td][td]71%[/td][td]22%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]21%[/td][td]55%[/td][td]24% [/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: If oppose, do you think it goes too far or doesn't go far enough?[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]
[/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]NOT ENOUGH[/th][th=""]TOO FAR[/th][th=""]NOT SURE[/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]53%[/td][td]8%[/td][td]39%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]51%[/td][td]11%[/td][td]38%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]55%[/td][td]5%[/td][td]40% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]57%[/td][td]3%[/td][td] 40%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]7%[/td][td]56%[/td][td]37%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]44%[/td][td]27%[/td][td]29% [/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: Would you favor or oppose the national government offering everyone the choice of a government administered health insurance plan -- something like the Medicare coverage that people 65 and older get -- that would compete with private health insurance plans?[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]FAVOR[/th][th=""]OPPOSE[/th][th=""]NOT SURE[/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]86%[/td][td]7%[/td][td]7%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]84%[/td][td]8%[/td][td]8%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]88%[/td][td]6%[/td][td]6% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]88%[/td][td]6%[/td][td]6%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]63%[/td][td]22%[/td][td]15%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]78%[/td][td]14%[/td][td]8% [/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: Would you favor or oppose requiring all Americans to buy health insurance from private companies -- the so-called mandate -- even if they find insurance too expensive or do not want it?[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]FAVOR[/th][th=""]OPPOSE[/th][th=""]NOT SURE[/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]33%[/td][td]55%[/td][td]12%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]32%[/td][td]57%[/td][td]11%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]34%[/td][td]53%[/td][td]13% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]35%[/td][td]53%[/td][td]12%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]8%[/td][td]79%[/td][td]13%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]19%[/td][td]69%[/td][td]12% [/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: Is the issue of the economy very important, somewhat important, or not important when deciding how or if to vote?[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]VERY[/th][th=""]SOME[/th][th=""]NOT VERY[/th][th=""]NOT SURE [/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]45%[/td][td]44%[/td][td]5%[/td][td]6%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]46%[/td][td]46%[/td][td]5%[/td][td]3%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]44%[/td][td]42%[/td][td]5%[/td][td]9% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]45%[/td][td]44%[/td][td]5%[/td][td]6%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]38%[/td][td]39%[/td][td]8%[/td][td]15%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]46%[/td][td]48%[/td][td]3%[/td][td]3% [/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: Which candidate in Tuesday's special election for Senate did a better job of representing you and your family on economic issues: Republican Scott Brown or Democrat Martha Coakley ?[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]COAKLEY[/th][th=""]BROWN[/th][th=""]NEITHER [/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]26%[/td][td]9%[/td][td]65% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]23%[/td][td]11%[/td][td]66%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]29%[/td][td]7%[/td][td]64% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]28%[/td][td]7%[/td][td]65%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]4%[/td][td]34%[/td][td]62%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]15%[/td][td]24%[/td][td]61% [/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: If the Democratic Congress passed a bill that laid down stronger rules of the road for Wall Street and cut bonuses for the executives of companies that received government bailouts, would that make you more likely or less likely to vote Democratic in the 2010 general election?[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]MORE[/th][th=""]LESS[/th][th=""]NO AFFECT [/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]56%[/td][td]5%[/td][td]39%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]54%[/td][td]6%[/td][td]40%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]58%[/td][td]4%[/td][td]38% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]59%[/td][td]4%[/td][td]37%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]24%[/td][td]14%[/td][td]62%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]37%[/td][td]9%[/td][td]54% [/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: What would do more to improve our nation's economic conditions: Decreasing government spending OR tightening government regulation of Wall Street and corporate executives?[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]TIGHTEN[/th][th=""]DECREASE[/th][th=""]NOT SURE [/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]46%[/td][td]21%[/td][td]33% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]44%[/td][td]24%[/td][td]32% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]48%[/td][td]18%[/td][td]34% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]48%[/td][td]19%[/td][td]33%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]23%[/td][td]45%[/td][td]32%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]42%[/td][td]31%[/td][td]37% [/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: Democrats in Washington are more on my side than on the side of the lobbyists and special interests, OR
Democrats in Washington are more on the side of the lobbyists and special interests than on the side of people like me.[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]LOBBYISTS[/th][th=""]MY SIDE[/th][th=""]NOT SURE[/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]44%[/td][td]29%[/td][td]27%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]47%[/td][td]27%[/td][td]26%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]41%[/td][td]31%[/td][td]28% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]43%[/td][td]30%[/td][td]27%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]56%[/td][td]7%[/td][td]37%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]52%[/td][td]24%[/td][td]24% [/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: When Democrats took power, they really changed things in Washington, OR
When Democrats took power, they didn't change much about how Washington works.[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]NO CHANGE[/th][th=""]CHANGE[/th][th=""]NOT SURE[/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]41%[/td][td]31%[/td][td]28%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]44%[/td][td]29%[/td][td]27%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]38%[/td][td]33%[/td][td]29% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]40%[/td][td]32%[/td][td]28%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]55%[/td][td]8%[/td][td]37%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]48%[/td][td]27%[/td][td]25% [/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]QUESTION: Democrats economic policy is more focused on helping Wall Street than helping Main Street, OR
Democrats' economic policy is more focused on helping Main Street than helping Wall Street.[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]
[/th][th=""]MAIN[/th][th=""]WALL[/th][th=""]NOT SURE[/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]ALL[/th] [td]38%[/td][td]37%[/td][td]25%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]MEN[/th] [td]40%[/td][td]40%[/td][td]20%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]WOMEN[/th] [td]36%[/td][td]34%[/td][td]30% [/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]DEMOCRATS[/th] [td]40%[/td][td]36%[/td][td]24%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]REPUBLICANS[/th] [td]17%[/td][td]39%[/td][td]44%[/td] [/tr][tr][th=""]INDEPENDENTS[/th] [td]22%[/td][td]51%[/td][td]27% [/td][/tr][/table]

 

[justscoreda100]

Originally Posted by nnarum

Originally Posted by JustScoreda100

Wow, MSNBC is a joke. Instead of actually having a substantive analysis of the republican response, they instead choose to talk about how no one knows him, and how there were no recognizable in the crowd.

They cater to their audiences. Same with Fox. Nothing new.

I was watching fox during their analysis of Obama's SOTU address and they actually touched on things like the tone of the speech, topics he touched, and how that might influence his agenda for next year. They went over things they didn't like and things they did like. It was obvious that they had a conservative bias, but at least they tried.

MSNBC basically surmised the republican response by saying " I don't know who you are so I'm not going to listen to you".

 

[jmadidas2001]

Originally Posted by Big J 33

Originally Posted by Nike Star Jay

Originally Posted by NYVictory45

Lol @ black woman and asian man front and center

What's so funny about them?

They're carefully placed, along with the white woman and man in the military to try to appeal to as many groups as possible and to look more diverse.

Do the Republicans even care that they are so transparent in doing things like this?

It's getting past the point of being a joke...it is moving towards being just down right sad...

JM

 

[spsfinest212]

Originally Posted by JustScoreda100

Wow, MSNBC is a joke. Instead of actually having a substantive analysis of the republican response, they instead choose to talk about how no one knows him, and how there were no recognizable in the crowd.

He didn't say anything earth shattering.

recap:
Herp...
NO TAXES
Derp...
OBAMA IS TAKING AWAY MY RIGHTS!!!
Durr...

 

[capricorn1229]

Originally Posted by JustScoreda100

Originally Posted by nnarum

Originally Posted by JustScoreda100

Wow, MSNBC is a joke. Instead of actually having a substantive analysis of the republican response, they instead choose to talk about how no one knows him, and how there were no recognizable in the crowd.

They cater to their audiences. Same with Fox. Nothing new.

I was watching fox during their analysis of Obama's SOTU address and they actually touched on things like the tone of the speech, topics he touched, and how that might influence his agenda for next year. They went over things they didn't like and things they did like. It was obvious that they had a conservative bias, but at least they tried.

MSNBC basically surmised the republican response by saying " I don't know who you are so I'm not going to listen to you".

and whats wrong with that? They don't care.

 

[stateofsingularity]

At least W. used to crack me up with his struggles with basic English. This one makes me want to throw something at the TV.

And the audacity of calling out SCOTUS -- Chief Justice Roberts was not amused by Barry's passive aggressive little swipe. Perhaps he should learn his place and remember simple concepts like "separation of powers."

As for the troops in Afghanistan, go read the Eikenberry cables at the NYT. The ambassador in Afghanistan is saying more troops won't do any damned good

That was sickening.

At least he has his rhetoric down pat. I'll give him that much.

 

[justscoreda100]

Originally Posted by Capricorn1229

and whats wrong with that? They don't care.

They're a news channel. They should at least attempt to be impartial, provide an analysis, and let their viewers form an opinion.

I can tell you watch a lot of late night cable news so I'm really not that surprised that you don't find anything wrong with that.

 

[essential1]

Originally Posted by JustScoreda100

Originally Posted by Capricorn1229

and whats wrong with that? They don't care.

They're a news channel. They should at least attempt to be impartial, provide an analysis, and let their viewers form an opinion.

Come on man................ Don't tell me you think Fox is even remotely more partial or even as partial as MSNBC...

 

[rockdeep]

The Republican response was a Produced Joke.

Instead of done in the backroom of an office they recreate a Mini State of the Union so people can fake Clap?

They strategically place two lil Black Kids and a Black woman and Asian in the background?

The dude talks about Off shore drilling which the Pres already did?

Come on man. People aren't stupid.

Aren't you the same Party who made Palin your VP candidate.. oh yeah. Smart all around.

As for any responsible analysis, you go to the News Station where you want to hear what you want. Fox and CNN obviously are right side leaners. MSNBC leans to the other side.

Use your own thought Process for analysis I say.

 

[justscoreda100]

Originally Posted by Nike Star Jay

Originally Posted by JustScoreda100

Wow, MSNBC is a joke. Instead of actually having a substantive analysis of the republican response, they instead choose to talk about how no one knows him, and how there were no recognizable in the crowd.

Think about who you're talking about right now. If you or anyone else expected MSNBC to give a legit analysis of the Republican response, you're mental. I only watch FOX and CNN. If you want good feedback on the response, watch 1-of-the-2 news stations.

I realise that. I just find it funny how people talk about how biased FOX is when MSNBC is just as bad if not worse. I watch all three networks regularly, and I wanted to watch FOX for analysis on the Obama's speach and MSNBC for the repub response. I was just surprised at how crappy Olbermann's analysis was.

 

[sirius lee handsome]

Originally Posted by Born Tuesday

Brian Williams just called them out about that diversity ASAP

What did he say exactly?