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As he should and this has yet to be said by 45 at any point in the last 3 years
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As he should and this has yet to be said by 45 at any point in the last 3 years
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My bad famb, you been through like three SN from what I can remember. Just assumed one got clipped. I know you took a self ban on one.now you speaking on **** you dont know.
but to the NH point, I kinda see what you’re saying about giving chances and violating.
I’d say give him another chance, but I get it.
me personally, it’s very entertaining to see him twist folks in knots and blatantly ignore stuff, so I have averaged interest in getting him back in here.
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I disagree with your premise that I defend white supremacists.
And I can’t answer that question without conceding that I do.
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Is anyone in here on the left trolling racist **** on a daily basis? I'd like to see examples.
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I notice you still haven't answered my question - or is that the point?
You could easily have just said, "I don't support Stephen Miller. I'm just here for my tax break and to deny women the right to have an abortion." You could have chosen not to reply at all.
Instead, you decided to try and frustrate the user through semantic hairsplitting.
Is this acting in good faith? Does it not match the definition of trolling?
I'm trying to understand why you feel entitled to do that.
Make your point, don't make it, but stop poisoning the well.
And if you think someone else is acting in kind, report it or don't. You have a choice.
If you want to try and lobby for stricter interpretations of the rules with regards to "name calling," so that it includes any reference to "sea lioning," then does that include the mocking use of the phrase "echo chamber?"
Help me help you.
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As he should and this has yet to be said by 45 at any point in the last 3 years
Was gonna post this with John Cusack's response. The bro's really be on her head
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@handullz anddwalk31 ....
"We need dissenting opinions in this thread to break up the echo chamber"
Meanwhile me andrexanglorum in the background...
All of the people you mentioned are supporting Democratic primary candidates.
Do you feel this thread should be devoid of openly conservative views?
elpablo21
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Either black folk are in charge now, or a woke white person saw Watchmen on HBO.
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Do you feel this thread and website should tolerate the racism and bigotry displayed by the conservative voices? We arent stopping anybody from discussing on here, not even defenders of sexual assault, they're getting themselves banned.
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Would love if it's the former but got a suspicion it's the latter
Not mad either way, about damn time some of the uglier parts of American history weren't whitewashed out of school history books
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I never stated I supported Stephen Miller at any point. I have stated my reasons for supporting this administration and not once did I mention “because of Stephen Miller.”
Your standard is someone tags me in a posts saying that “Donald Trump is the first President in modern history to hire a self-proclaimed White supremacist”
and I need to respond “I do not support Stephen Miller”
or not respond at all...
lest I be considered trolling or poisoning the well?
The discussion as I saw it was about Trump and what he was aware of. I figured the poster said “self-proclaimed white supremacist” to show that Trump unabashedly supports white supremacists which is why I pushed back on that notion in the way that I did. If I didn’t, then I had to concede a faulty, mischaracterized premise.
I support what I’ve stated re: this administration. From what I’ve read, I do not support a lot of what Stephen Miller has reportedly said/done.
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The first aerial bombing on American soil. That’s America in a nutshell. Americans invent and develop the world changing, almost miraculous technology of fixed wing aircraft AND... use it to bomb other Americans who are black.
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I’m only speaking for myself. I don’t display racism, bigotry, or defend sexual assault.
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The thread should definitely be devoid of factoids and political ideologies based on fantasies, aka openly conservative views.
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The timing is suspicious as hell to me given it's potential to damage the candidate consistently polling the best against 45 H2H at a time where he's gaining major momentum and headed to front-runner status
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I respect your opinion.
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I don't care. Do you?
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What other valid point is there to be made other than addressing the central issue?
You admitted that you aren't even contesting whether or not Stephen Miller is racist, so why focus on arguing that he is not a "self-professed" racist? Does that matter? Does this not qualify as "pounding the table?"
I'm not saying that you're forbidden from attempting to push back against the notion that Stephen Miller's policies are racist. (Good luck, but I won't stop you from trying.)
What I am saying is that I believe you're capable of grasping the distinction between a good faith argument and a bad faith attempt to frustrate or antagonize users whom you consider adversaries.
This is painfully simple.
"Openly conservative views" have been known to include:
- Denying women equal rights.
- Denying people of color equal rights.
- Denying LGBTQIA citizens equal rights.
To this, the standard refrain tends to be, "but Democrats supported slavery and opposed same sex marriage, too!"
That's true. So if these aren't necessarily "conservative" views, then banning those who express them isn't discriminating against conservatives, is it?
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Are you suggesting Trump doesn't support white supremacists?
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I don’t think that you have to accept any of those views. Nor do I support those views. I think they are disgusting and indefensible.
But I think that my response did matter because the accusation was about Trump, not Stephen Miller. I believe the poster intentionally worded it that way to make it seem as if Trump hires people who declare they are white supremacists. That’s why I pushed back in the manner in which I did.
It’s clear you disagree with my analysis, but it was made in good faith.
I intentionally ignore slights and jabs in this thread so that it doesn’t devolve into meaningless table pounding.
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Wait wait wait. You are really going to act like I came in here and @ you out of nowhere about Stephen Miller like you didn’t come in here first and tell everyone how convenient it was that people ignore the first step act signed by trump while simultaneously ignoring all the racist **** he has done? You can’t be this daft can you?
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