***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[dwalk31]

It's as if you don't know that you're acting in bad faith.

A user asked you to account for your support of an administration whose immigration policies are being shaped by a racist - and you responded by focusing on the phrase "self-professed," as if that were the central issue.

You still refuse to explain why you chose to do so - but I think the answer is obvious.


If someone asks you to defend your vote or position, you aren't obligated to answer - but acting in bad faith, as you so routinely have, is destructive and unacceptable.

Ask any member of the group you derisively refer to as the "echo chamber" if they've been held accountable for breaking the rules on our forums. Truth be told, most of the users you squabble with have received more warnings in here than you have - so spare us the "vast left wing conspiracy" angle. You're not the only one being held accountable for bad behavior.

Or do you think you deserve special treatment?

I’ve said numerous times the reasons why I support this administration. People just don’t agree with my reasoning.

I’ve stated that im pro life, support the administration’s stances on criminal justice reform, tax incentives, deregulation, etc.

The response is “how are you pro-life but support ________.” That‘s not me hiding my reasoning, or acting in bad faith. That’s a disagreement on my reasoning.

 

[boris]

Yo, petition to get ninjahood back into this thread.

We need some dissenting opinions.

where you at, meff?

If the offense isn’t strong enough to be banned from the board, then it shouldn’t get one banned from the board.

im liberal af and prolly disagree w/ the homey on 99%of **** but it’s either full ban or no ban...

partial ban ain’t it.

If you really want to argue with a brick wall, he spawns a bunch of topics to circumvent his ban from here.

It’s useless talking to that guy. You can demonstrate he’s wrong and somehow he still thinks he’s right.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Yo, petition to get ninjahood back into this thread.

We need some dissenting opinions.

where you at, meff?

If the offense isn’t strong enough to be banned from the board, then it shouldn’t get one banned from the board.

im liberal af and prolly disagree w/ the homey on 99%of **** but it’s either full ban or no ban...

partial ban ain’t it.

When he got banned, Meth warned the entire thread to stop with the personal attacks.

Meth had reason to ban him for offensive racist arguments, and gave him a break.

He got suspended along with a other person because of an argument that got personal in which he said some xenophobic stuff.

Right after his suspension he got into another personal argument and said more wild **** at someone else.

Meth suspended and ban everyone that couldn't behavior. Ninja was not the only one clipped as a result.

Since leaving this thread he has threaten to fly across the country to beat me up and even said he would PayPal dudes who can find me to teach me a lesson.

My dude, putting my personal feelings aside, seems like the thread ban was to save him from a permanent ban. Having him back pretty much tells him he can do whatever he wants on NT.

 

[rolaholic]

I actually think he would be pretty ineffective due to gridlock and lack of political allies. Globally his “ we are not exploiting foreign countries” policy makes it easier for Putin to exploit them instead (aka real polytik), and they want the US to stop fraking because it lowers the petrodollar and makes us a superior energy exporter than Russia. This is just off the top of my head.

why is he against those countries joining NATO? That legit is fishy to me......

He's no different than Obama when it comes to offering Ukraine and Georgia paths for memberships to NATO though , he had zero immediate plans of that happening due to how much more likely that would lead a much more assertive and aggressive response from Vlad

Plus there's a lot to be said of the neo-fascist embrace and tendencies of Ukraines government in recent years...

That isn't any new position or development from the US government

 

[RustyShackleford]

We would have more dissenting opinions with the conservatives would stop getting banned for personal attacks, racist comments, race trolling, and fraud (sorry, my bad, assassin like behavior).

 

[sammy863dade]

Fox News running their socialist propaganda and old people are falling for it smh

 

[handullz]

If you really want to argue with a brick wall, he spawns a bunch of topics to circumvent his ban from here.

It’s useless talking to that guy. You can demonstrate he’s wrong and somehow he still thinks he’s right.

That’s y’all damb problem. Dudes stay trying to convince someone instead of dropping fax and leaving it how it is.

It frustrates y’all so much and it shouldn’t. The same way y’all dunk on DWalk and keep it pushing, y’all don’t do that w/ the NH. It’s like trying to catch a raisin with chopsticks





You gotta troll the Hood back, famb.

side note: millineal was GOD-level ninjahood troll.

**** went on for years

 

[dwalk31]

We would have more dissenting opinions with the conservatives would stop getting banned for personal attacks, racist comments, race trolling, and fraud (sorry, my bad, assassin like behavior).

Personal attacks and race trolling are cool from the left tho?

Because I can’t help but think if I kept the same energy that some in here express towards me it’d be a different discussion.

I know that you like to be fair, at times, so keep it a buck.

 

[handullz]

When he got banned, Meth warned the entire thread to stop with the personal attacks.

Meth had reason to ban him for offensive racist arguments, and gave him a break.

He got suspended along with a other person because of an argument that got personal in which he said some xenophobic stuff.

Right after his suspension he got into another personal argument and said more wild **** at someone else.

Meth suspended and ban everyone that couldn't behavior. Ninja was not the only one clipped as a result.

Since leaving this thread he has threaten to fly across the country to beat me up and even said he would PayPal dudes who can find me to teach me a lesson.

My dude, putting my personal feelings aside, seems like the thread ban was to save him from a permanent ban. Having him back pretty much tells him he can do whatever he wants on NT.

 

[RustyShackleford]

That’s y’all damb problem. Dudes stay trying to convince someone instead of dropping fax and leaving it how it is.

It frustrates y’all so much and it shouldn’t. The same way y’all dunk on DWalk and keep it pushing, y’all don’t do that w/ the NH. It’s like trying to catch a raisin with chopsticks





You gotta troll the Hood back, famb.

side note: millineal was GOD-level ninjahood troll.

**** went on for years

What about when he starts saying racist things about black people, even after fact checked. Or insulting someone's medical condition. Or immigration status. Or threatens to physically assault them.

Meth should let all that slide too?

 

[frenchbreadbuilds]

Dwalks stance on Stephen Miller

 

[handullz]

Nah. We good. We been good.

There’s zero reason to let that clown back in here, but you wouldn’t know that since you’re relatively new to this thread.

If you really want dissenting opinions, feel free to join him and Timid in the Bernie Sanders thread. Otherwise it seems like you’re just being contrarian just to be contrarian. Again.

Boy if you don’t sitcho *** down somewhere.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Dwalks stance on Stephen Miller

I wish JFK and Ted Sorensen were still alive to add this post to "Profiles in Courage" .

 

[RustyShackleford]

Boy if you don’t sitcho *** down somewhere.

Famb you complain about people on here taking themselves to seriously, yet you are advocating for a dude being reinstalled who literally threatens violence when he can't take a joke, or if someone points out a sple math mistake.

 

[handullz]

What about when he starts saying racist things about black people, even after fact checked. Or insulting someone's medical condition. Or immigration status. Or threatens to physically assault them.

Meth should let all that slide too?

are all these offenses bannable from NT?

if I do all this, will I get banned fromT or just banned from the thread.

my point is no half assed bans. if it’s a bannable offense, ban from every where.

 

[RustyShackleford]

are all these offenses bannable from NT?

if I do all this, will I get banned fromT or just banned from the thread.

my point is no half assed bans. if it’s a bannable offense, ban from every where.

He got banned from this thread for engaging in personal attacks after Meth issued multiple warnings. To everyone Those are banable but Meth gives people breaks. Everyone does.

Hell he is giving you a break too, to still post on NT under a new SN after getting a previous one banned.

So I really don't get what your complaint is. Meth have everyone a last chance, Ninja violated.

 

[superblytrife]

Boy if you don’t sitcho *** down somewhere.

Where are the lies told? You were MIA for yearssss and checked back I’m not too long ago. This thread ain’t the same thread you may have visited long ago, and it shows by you consistently being behind the curve when it comes to the discussion. Talmbout bring NH back. WE GOOD OVER HERE BOSS.

 

[boris]

Since leaving this thread he has threaten to fly across the country to beat me up and even said he would PayPal dudes who can find me to teach me a lesson.

This is both pathetic and hilarious.

 

[Methodical Management]

Yo, petition to get ninjahood back into this thread.

We need some dissenting opinions.

where you at, meff?

If the offense isn’t strong enough to be banned from the board, then it shouldn’t get one banned from the board.

im liberal af and prolly disagree w/ the homey on 99%of **** but it’s either full ban or no ban...

partial ban ain’t it.

Yeah, you go ahead and get that started. I look forward to seeing how many people sign it.


Unlike our previous platforms, the current system allows us to restrict users from individual threads - which is of immeasurable help in those instances where a particular user struggles to follow the rules in a specific context, but is capable of handling other topics. (e.g. a Lakers fan trolling the Celtics thread, or vice versa.)

I don't see the logic in arguing "it's either full ban or no ban." If so, are suspensions okay? What about warnings? Or should we go zero tolerance for all offenses? It's either full ban or nothing?

Granular controls allow our moderation team to provide more proportionate responses than we've been able to in the past. Let the punishment fit the crime. We don't need to issue a life sentence when a restraining order will suffice.


I'm also unmoved by calls to make special allowances to hear "both sides." Most issues are not binary, and not all perspectives are equally valid. Do we need to hear from "both sides" in a thread about slavery or genocide? Some "sides" are inherently disrespectful. How does it help our community if we allow it to host content that excludes those who are already marginalized? Take any topic involving Magic Johnson's son or Dwyane Wade's daughter Zaya, for example. Why should we allow hate speech that prioritizes "ideological diversity" ahead of actual diversity?

If we don't want NikeTalk to become like NikePark, or, for those unfamiliar, the Youtube comments section, everything we do here must be built on a solid foundation of respect.


As for this thread, anyone who would call it an "echo chamber" clearly hasn't been paying attention. How much disagreement has there been in here among those who identify as "progressive" today alone?

 

[boris]

It’s like trying to catch a raisin with chopsticks

 

[RustyShackleford]

I just hope to Socialist Jesus thay Russia has nothing on prime.

Even if it is minor, our news media is so trash it will be the Comey letter 2.0.

 

[handullz]

He got banned from this thread for engaging in personal attacks after Meth issued multiple warnings. To everyone Those are banable but Meth gives people breaks. Everyone does.

Hell he is giving you a break too, to still post on NT under a new SN after getting a previous one banned.

So I really don't get what your complaint is. Meth have everyone a last chance, Ninja violated.

now you speaking on **** you dont know.



but to the NH point, I kinda see what you’re saying about giving chances and violating.

I’d say give him another chance, but I get it.





me personally, it’s very entertaining to see him twist folks in knots and blatantly ignore stuff, so I have averaged interest in getting him back in here.

 

[junglejim]

Personal attacks and race trolling are cool from the left tho?

Because I can’t help but think if I kept the same energy that some in here express towards me it’d be a different discussion.

I know that you like to be fair, at times, so keep it a buck.

People in here are defending white supremacists other than you?

 

[rolaholic]

I just hope to Socialist Jesus thay Russia has nothing on prime.

Even if it is minor, our news media is so trash it will be the Comey letter 2.0.

100%, the fact they drop that story on the eve of a primary is a testament to that

Just glad he has no documented business dealings or established ties to mob figures and oligarchs like a certain someone the last time around

 

[RustyShackleford]

handullz and dwalk31 ....

"We need dissenting opinions in this thread to break up the echo chamber"

Meanwhile me and rexanglorum in the background...