dacomeup
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This consumer pressure has no parallel to your idea of forcing the private sector to fund public education. It's really not similar in the least bit. But you aren't really here for genuine debates either.
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You are well aware that not only black players are kneeling. And you are well aware that Trump did not say that he is ok with the white players kneeling, but not the black players.
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There’s been one white player to kneel right?
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When trump says that he has an issue with only black players kneeling, but that he is ok with the white players kneeling then I will understand your position.
That would be disgusting and inexcusable.
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Name one white athlete Trump singled out.
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lol
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Not a white person? What's the difference?
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We can agree to disagree. On both points.
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Owners are lying through their teeth just because they don't want to give up more money/power whenever the new CBA comes up
It isn't just an NFL problem, it's simply how people on the whole are changing consumer wise.. this applies to all networks and programs
On the ratings:
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...television-ratings-2017-season-super-bowl-lii
O and as far as revenue (which doesn't include every source of income for a team, this was simply the share amongst all teams):
https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/07/16/green-bay-packers-books-show-national-revenue
It isn't just an NFL problem, it's simply how people on the whole are changing consumer wise.. this applies to all networks and programs
On the ratings:
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...television-ratings-2017-season-super-bowl-lii
O and as far as revenue (which doesn't include every source of income for a team, this was simply the share amongst all teams):
https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/07/16/green-bay-packers-books-show-national-revenue
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That's a very disingenuous and shortsighted argument.
A random example but if someone with a presumed racist intent is disparaging African countries as uncivilized etc., do you really think he's talking about those countries' white populations in equal matter? Come on now.
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The "racist intent" is the part that you aren't explaining. So far, the comments regarding kneeling have been race-neutral. If that changes, my position will as well.
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How many players kneeled on Thursday?
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I'm not sure you saw my earlier comment, but I do not watch the NFL currently due to the Colin Kaepernick situation. And I support the players who choose to kneel.
In his comment Thursday, did he mention that if white players kneel during the anthem that is cool? Do you think that is how he feels?
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Ahhh no. Zero white people kneeled on Thursday’s. Again, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Seemed to be your common theme
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Did I say some did? What are you talking about?
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You quoted me chief.. maybe you should read what I said
And Colin kaepernick last threw a pass in the nfl on January 1st, 2017
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Y'all been arguing with the same trolls since Obama was president. Why?
You think one day you're suddenly gonna get through to him?
You think one day you're suddenly gonna get through to him?
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Fine he doesn’t single out white players we can dead that
Why did trump go after Jay-Z? Yet Eminem was the one who dissed him outright, and he didn’t say anything about Em. You are looking through a dirty window and seeing what you want to see without seeing the whole picture.
I want to take you even half seriously but I can’t because you don’t even want to acknowledge some basics.
Why did trump go after Jay-Z? Yet Eminem was the one who dissed him outright, and he didn’t say anything about Em. You are looking through a dirty window and seeing what you want to see without seeing the whole picture.
I want to take you even half seriously but I can’t because you don’t even want to acknowledge some basics.
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I cited a random example of why your argument is shortsighted. In that above example it would be almost inconceivable that the individual is talking about those countries' white populations as uncivilized in equal matter in spite of him not literally saying "the black population in x African country is uncivilized."
What you're doing is a somewhat clever attempt to sidestep any criticism unless the words are uttered in the most literal form possible. Particularly politicians aren't exactly speaking in absolute literal terms on the regular.
Let me introduce you to this 1981 quote by Republican strategist, former Reagan advisor and H.W. Bush campaign manager Lee Atwater. I don't think the censored word needs explaining.
You start out in 1954 by saying, “******, ******, ******.” By 1968 you can’t say “******”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “******, ******.”
There are many ways to talk about a wide variety of things, doesn't necessarily need to have anything to do with race, without a very literal invocation of whatever the individual is referring to or the point he wants to get across.
In fact, let me illustrate it with an example provided by yourself.
Would it be fair to say that when you have talked about the echo chamber in this thread, you are referring to the posters with more liberal views rather than all posters in this thread in equal manner including yourself, Ninjahood, Inthehallway, ...
I don't seem to recall you literally saying "the echo chamber perpetuated by members a, b, c, ..."
No regular poster read that and thought "well he must be talking about all posters" because you didn't write your point in its most literal form.
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He has singled out George Bush, Jeb Bush, Steve Bannon, Rosie o' Donnell, to name a few.
What do all of those people have in common?
You can do this all day. To act like he only singles out black people is beyond ridiculous. And you know it.
MalcolmNewton
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Does he say his fellow white people he beefs with have low I.Q's?
And he still communicates with Bannon and Gorka, two BLATANT white supremacists to the bone.
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Forgot Sean miller who works in his cabinet.
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Let us not forget about Grand Wizard Sessions
Trump boot lickers are abhorrent with the way they try to shield that piece of trash from criticism for his racism
And then whinge and whine when it's pointed out that they are helping all these racists feel empowered
He doesn't need to say "I only hate black athletes" or come out in a Klan uniform for for his racist feelings to be revealed
And then whinge and whine when it's pointed out that they are helping all these racists feel empowered
He doesn't need to say "I only hate black athletes" or come out in a Klan uniform for for his racist feelings to be revealed
