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lowkey he and his close circle have been saying this is what he was going to do before and after the election. It’s a sign of how uninformed voters are that now…. this time…. Like the fifth time…. That this has been said is getting them concerned.
It’s trade wars, austerity, mass layoffs, and deportation/incarceration of whole families. What is new is he said yesterday he wants to limit voting to 1 day across the country. They also want to put the army in blue states under the pretext we will not comply with these things.
Though I bet ALL of this was written out in project 2025. The thing he swore up and down was not something he would do.
The only caveat is I don’t think people accept this, and you will see blue states because havens from his madness as much as they can. He’s definitely weakened the checks and balances of the US, but he isn’t a king and these things will be challenges and obstructed just as much as the republicans obstructed Biden on everything he tried to do.
It’s trade wars, austerity, mass layoffs, and deportation/incarceration of whole families. What is new is he said yesterday he wants to limit voting to 1 day across the country. They also want to put the army in blue states under the pretext we will not comply with these things.
Though I bet ALL of this was written out in project 2025. The thing he swore up and down was not something he would do.
The only caveat is I don’t think people accept this, and you will see blue states because havens from his madness as much as they can. He’s definitely weakened the checks and balances of the US, but he isn’t a king and these things will be challenges and obstructed just as much as the republicans obstructed Biden on everything he tried to do.
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Unfortunately for the incoming administration, as I said before, the political mood of the country isn’t 1933 Germany anymore. It’s much closer to 1789 France or even 1917 Russia. The CEO shooter has sparked a ‘class consciousness’ not seen in decades or more.
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On that point
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I lived in a poor country, but I didn't live in poverty.
My classmates were the sons and daughters of very important folks. In a country with an average annual income of a few hundreds to thousand dollars, some of the kids I went to school with had cars and/or personal chauffeurs. Because those schools were always within a stone throw away from less well-off neighborhoods, those kids were routinely targeted by stick up kids. Mofos couldn't cut class without running the risk of losing their Jordans and/or MP3 players. Kidnappings were a reality (we had two cases when I was in elementary and middle school). As a teen, you learned quickly to be careful about displays of wealth: electronics, watches, name brand clothing, jewelry, etc... couldn't be worn if you planned to be in the city like that.
To have means in a poor society is to live in a persistent state of vigilance. Rich folks don't understand that regular people know what they're wearing, where they eat, where they shop/hang out, where they vacation, where they go to school, etc... because they can't afford it. BUT! they leave you alone when they are content with their lives. If you are the reason they can no longer afford food, shelter, and health, they're coming for you. That's what wealthy Americans need to realize. Taxes and a functioning social safety net are the cost of living without the 24/7 security, guard dogs, and high fences topped with barbed wire they see in the economically unequal societies of the Global South.
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The social safety net is part of the social contract between classes. A big problem is this false belief that social networks can lull people’s sense of self interest they accept atlas shrugged destruction of the social safety net because the people at the top want to become even wealthier.
Now you have the President essentially saying I lied to get elected AND it’s going to get even worst. People are going to become very aware of who is doing well very quickly as the resentment grows.
All these things are pointing to a specific outcome of something has to give. I went to Brazil a few years ago and everyone of means lives in compounds with tall walls. Americans don’t have that, the wealthy live mostly outside the city. The amenities that the wealthy enjoy in America is based on a general lack of class consciousness, that is bolstered by a good living standard and a consistent, but still very flawed safety net.
America isn’t built on tthe wealthy being scared, just discreet but if they get away with what they think they want they’ll be scared every day they have it until it gets taken away, because unlike most of the world America has a serious gun problem that makes us more prone to violence, and trump is about to release the idiots who stormed the capital last time sending the absolutely wrong message about the results of sedition.
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It wasn’t even 1933 Germany. More than half the country didn’t vote for Trump. They do not have a political mandate to do project 2025, in fact trump lied and said he would not do it. Honestly the closest scenario I can think of to what is being proposed is Trump wants America to do its own version of Brexit….. but he didn’t run on that he ran on lowering inflation.
That’s why this attempt to do these things are going to lead to a lot of unexpected results. I don’t think I’ve seen a politician pivot like that in my lifetime.
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Well, 1933 Germany (or perhaps Italy) was/is the goal, we aren’t there yet and hopefully won’t be.
But the class consciousness that is developing is the most I’ve ever seen. Even Ben Shapiro’s audience is turning on him when he called out the radical left for supporting the shooter.
But the class consciousness that is developing is the most I’ve ever seen. Even Ben Shapiro’s audience is turning on him when he called out the radical left for supporting the shooter.
mplsdunk
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Be interesting to see if the claim deny rate drops. 
yobyellav
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If I was in a war and got the tap-tap-pull from somebody
What kind of NTer are you though?
We might be living the prequel to this, the second movie that shows how **** got so messed up in the first movie.
yobyellav
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These were my thoughts except I think a significant amount will harm more people. And like you said, they’d be loyal to him forever no matter what crimes he’s done get exposed. Pardoning those people would be a disaster.
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i remain incredibly skeptical americans hate billionaires and corporations as much as people on twitter would have believe...
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I am being hopeful that even temporarily being imprisoned and god knows how much in legal fees will humble the majority of them, but it goes without saying a few of them will come out more radicalized.
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Twitter (X) is owned by the richest billionaire on the planet, and is a right wing haven. I’d take anything said on there with a grain of salt.
On other platforms like Threads (Instagram), YouTube, or even FB, people are pretty much in agreement that billionaires (especially in the healthcare) industry are scum.
Also, it’s important to note that Democrats are NOT the Left. They are in fact a very right wing party by almost any measure.
I am a Leftist. I am NOT a liberal, nor a Democrat.
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Plenty of them will try to join law enforcement, especially if Trump is able to reshape federal L.E. agencies to his liking (purge those who are not loyal to him).
That will be the clearest sign that he won't leave after four years.
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I don’t think anyone here is saying the majority of people hate billionaires or corporations. The argument is there is a reason they don’t and that is because life is good enough people don’t pay attention to them.
However, Tariffs, Tax cuts for the wealthy, and deregulation can change that. Also, it does not require a mass movement to endanger them, but the worst things get the likelier that happens. I am not a communist but we seen a few mass movement these last couple of years.
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I think a few run for office and from that group a few actually win
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I'm putting everything on the table, including character/actual assassinations of congresspeople who oppose him.
I realize that I sound hyperbolic, but considering who Trump has modeled his leadership style after (Hitler, Putin), I can't put these possibilities past him.
AOC/the squad better beef up their security detail (or get one if they don't have any).
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1. it's yougov survey, the fact that it was shared on twitter is irrelevant.
I encourage you to talk to people in real life.
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I’d agree that those of us opposed to inequality as a matter of principle are a small part of the electorate and we are over represented in some online spaces.
Most Americans want good outcomes for themselves and they don’t care how you get it.
The key to building left electoral majorities is for the left to communicate effectively and to link bad outcomes to inequality. To make the case that your quality and affordability of food, transportation, entertainment, their kids’ education, public services, job opportunities, housing, and healthcare are getting worse because more and more of our economy is designed to siphon everything to the top.
There’s going to be lots of discontent among the masses and right now, the right has been successful at harnessing it. And they’ve convinced enough middle of the road voters that bad outcomes are being caused by an excess of social equality.
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Assad should have had some soulful white boys as his advisors.
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I can't ******* listen to this assclown! His voice I can't stand and his stupid hand gestures to make him look more intelligent!
The bagel I had this morning has more smarts that this putz!
yobyellav
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Way more hopeful than I am. I think they go all in with the aggressive violent **** whenever he says ________ should be jailed for opposing his agenda.
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It was worse as of last year I believe
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I still don’t think the wealth gap inspires anyone to do anything out of pocket. People don’t have enough class consciousness to want a bigger pie as long as they have the things they think they are supposed to have.
However the things Trump is proposing basically equate to austerity, tariffs, and deregulation upends all of that. Then if people realize it’s all for the sake of making the wealthy even wealthier that I think will cause trouble.
Similar to the price of eggs making people vote against their economic self interest. Changing medicare, Medicaid, social security, and allowing companies to whatever they want for profit…. While not actually fixing the cost of egg problem is going to bite them in the ***.
BECAUSE they don’t have a mandate to do any of these things. He didn’t win the majority of the country, he won by roughly the same number of people he lost with in 2020 and he had to lie to do even that.
I haven’t seen this from an American President, so I honestly don’t know how it is supposed to go, but I am assuming it doesn’t go well at all for the people in power.
