aepps20
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***Official Political Discussion Thread***
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do you read what you quote?
"yes i don't trust random anecdotal evidence over hard data."
stop trying so hard for a gotcha and think critically for a second.
if you have some data that says that americans hate billionaires id be happy to see it. The polling data i've seen on that is mixed.
do you read what you quote?
"yes i don't trust random anecdotal evidence over hard data."
stop trying so hard for a gotcha and think critically for a second.
if you have some data that says that americans hate billionaires id be happy to see it. The polling data i've seen on that is mixed.
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And do those studies take into account the types of billionaires?N nonnative
do you read what you quote?
"yes i don't trust random anecdotal evidence over hard data."
stop trying so hard for a gotcha and think critically for a second.
if you have some data that says that americans hate billionaires id be happy to see it. The polling data i've seen on that is mixed.
If I were surveyed and asked if I dislike billionaires, I would answer no or neutral. Someone's wealth isn't necessarily indicative of their character.
Would I dislike certain billionaires because of how they got there and/or stay there? Yes, absolutely.
The only billionaires who are even well known enough that people know who they are or what they do are usually cloaked in some variety of controversies that make people hate them.
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BTC is gambling too. The problem is Americans are obsessed with the idea of the self made man and don’t realize how unrealistic it is to go from broke to wealthy from a single investments. The main reason Bitcoin has taken off is that it is owned by wealthy people who control the media and can push the idea it is an investments and not a form vaporware used to transfer money.Americans are obsessed with pissing their money away, hawk tuah, SPORTS BETTING, gambling everywhere, gas station, casino, bar etc etc.
nobody wants protection in crypto if you get rugged thats on you.
Just to put how dumb this all is. Essentially they are saying Death by Snu Snu is now a form of ethnic cleansing. Only in America where the one drop rule still stain our idea of the social construct that is race could an idea this stupid go mainstream. It’s literally the exact opposite of say a country like Brazil where interracial marriage was encouraged with the belief that over time it would lead to more white citizens. Both are disgusting, and honestly arbitrary, but at least Brazil was based on everybody should **** and not let’s do an ethnic cleansing of them first.
I remember when racists wearing hoods or swastikas would go on shows like Donahue and Ricky Lake to say nonsense like this and get booed. Now, due to the fact the internet lets people say damn near anything with an avatar hiding your face these racist ideas go unchallenged.
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its mixed it doesn't seem like there is overwhelming love or hatred, but it has been trending negative since 2020.
even well known billionaires are still seem to have mixed reputations.
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No idea who Richard Branson is but aside from Warren Buffet, all of these people regularly make the news and face virulent hatred on social media.its mixed it doesn't seem like there is overwhelming love or hatred, but it has been trending negative since 2020.
even well known billionaires are still seem to have mixed reputations.
One thing I've always wondered is how honest people truly are on a private survery. It's impossible to measure outside of anecdotally of course but I feel like what a person answers on a private survey often does not align with their views and behavior.
Surveys sometimes put conflicting questions in the survery to specifically account for this and it's not that unusual. I participate in a lot of Reuters/IPSOS surveys on a variety of topics, and have agreed to be put on a list where they can always call me for any survery. Especially when it comes to more sensitive topics, there tends to be at least one question in there that's basically a rephrased version of a prior question.
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N nonnative
do you read what you quote?
"yes i don't trust random anecdotal evidence over hard data."
stop trying so hard for a gotcha and think critically for a second.
if you have some data that says that americans hate billionaires id be happy to see it. The polling data i've seen on that is mixed.
Let me get this straight.
You make a claim using an anecdote cause I guess we're all supposed to assume you've seen the "hard data". Ok
And then you want me, someone who actually hasn't taken a position on the issue, to provide evidence to disprove the claim that youve made with no evidence.
And I'm the one that's supposed to think critically?
Just LOL
mplsdunk
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not arguing with that, like you said chasing **** coins for a 1000x profit is a losing game and that's not investing it's gambling.
that's why I'd say btc is not so risky anymore, once institutional money comes in it's a rigged game same as the stock market. you hold long enough you'll be fine.
if you aren't maxing out a Roth you got no business putting money in btc.
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Dawg you are just trying so hard just read what I said it makes perfect sense.
I didn't say "anecdotes are meaningless," I said I don't trust them over hard data. Anecdotes have their place, Im not going to trust them over a lot of hard data.
If you disagree with my claim, then you should make your own claim with you own evidence. If you don't disagree well then don't comment...
But you are just trying so hard to sell this hypocrisy angle it's short circuiting your reasoning.
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X helps update Kids Online Safety Act in final push for passage in the Republican-led House
It’s the latest example of Musk’s growing influence.
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Ironically back when it was just Bitcoin, it was actually used as transactional money instead of an investment/memecoin gambling.
It became the de facto method of doing business over in the social media business because it prevented buyers from scamming. I'd be super loaded right now if I didn't just immediately transfer it into 'real money' after every transaction but back then it was seen as too volatile.
Another reason of course was because it's ideal for doing business with dirty money.
A popular form of money laundering for example was to falsify transactions with parallel transactions in Bitcoin and Paypal. They would pay a smaller amount in Paypal and the rest in Bitcoin, with no record of the Bitcoin transactions. I didn't partake in it but I was offered a handful of times to accept an 80/20 split payment for a username so only the 20% would be reported on my taxes. The discussions about the unreported 80% would take place on an encrypted messaging service and were then deleted after. This was also a recipe for scamming so I imagine some of those were attempts to scam me but one of them was a very well trusted middle eastern buyer who had spent tens of thousands of dollars with a flawless rep.
The social media market functions on a basis of trust so Paypal had long been an issue. Everyone has a "reputation" (you can give +1 or -1) and if you were a seller or buyer, you'd also have vouches on your profile from people who've dealt with you or other highly trusted associates vouching for you.
I quickly built up a flawless rep with high level vouches so I was able to demand payment upfront after a while but that still didn't necessarily prevent the Paypal scam method.
One time I was selling a Kik username "D6", which was valued at around $200 and someone approached me offering $600 Paypal.
Obviously he was going to do a fraudulent chargeback on Paypal to get his money back but this was clearly a dumbass so I took the gamble on him losing the chargeback attempt. He indeed lost and ended up paying me 3x what the username was worth.
Edit: Dude apparently didn't even use a VPN to at least do the bare minimum to pretend someone from a different country was using his Paypal through unauthorized access.
If the customer didn't trust me enough for some reason, he'd have to cover the fee for a highly reliable middleman to basically act as a neutral form of escrow. Once both sides send the Middleman (MM) their end of the bargain, the middleman confirms it and then sends each side their part of the deal. On paper this also sounds very scam-prone but there are plenty of middleman who've MM'd well over $300k worth of transactions with flawless reputations.
Bitcoin was like a savior for this issue and the role of a trusted Middleman suddenly began to flourish. After all, now the only way to scam was for the seller to run off with the money without sending over the account credentials.
There continued to be the occasional "exit scam", where someone with a very elite reputation suddenly decides to disappear with thousands of dollars but that was very rare.
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They’re surprised the Anti-Union guy lied to the Union???
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It always surprises how people don't seem to really know about that semi-underground market despite the amount of money that business has been raking in for well over a decade. It's only exploded in value too.
Fun fact: The state of Israel bought their Twitter username from a dude in Spain.
Back 10 years ago, I sold the username "US" on Twitch for $250, which was the highest on record at the time. Nowadays it would be $10k minimum.
Just a couple years later, "Greed" ended up selling for $750.
Twitch requires a minimum character length of 4, so Greed loses value due to being 5 characters. It gains all its value from how 'cool' the word is seen.
Shortness and rarity are the key determinators for valuating a username but in some cases the 'aura' of the word can outvalue something that is much shorter and more rare.
mplsdunk
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You should peep the crypto thread, guys were flipping ENS names for good bread a few years ago.
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That's way too late for me to step in at that point. But yeah any kind of platform that has or is expected to be popular is going to have a username market. How lucrative it's going to be all depends on the popularity of the platform and what kind of crowd you're catering to.
I always relied on appraisals from trusted associates so I never really partook in the flipping thing. I had so much supply, even in leftovers I to this day, that it just seemed like an unnecessary hassle for minimal profit.
mplsdunk
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Oh yeah I know it’s way too late, I just meant you’d probably get a laugh out of the degen plays in there.
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You show me a billionaire, and I’ll show you a legalized criminal.
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NYC's mayor warms to Trump and doesn't rule out becoming a Republican
New York City Mayor Eric Adams appears open to switching parties to become a Republican, as he declined to rule out a future change in political allegiances during a pair of interviews Friday that came as he has increasing warmed to President-elect Donald Trump. The comments from Adams, the top...
Man looking for a way out….
