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Ohio actually had a grant from the Obama administration to build a high speed rail system that connected the major areas from Cincinnati to Cleveland. It got canned because the Republican governor at the time thought it was stupid and hated Obama. He refused to use the grant money for that and tried to use it for other things. Admin said nope, that money is designated for high speed rail, and if you're not using it for that, you have to give it back...and we have plenty of states who would LOVE to use it properly. That idiot actually gave the money back. I THOUGHT MN was the state that accepted it, but I could be wrong.


Mn might have, they got a new line from eden prairie. (Burbs) to the other lines in the city but like I said they can’t use it because rich people in Minneapolis say so.
 
Public transit in the US sucks, but I think people drastically oversimplify the problem. Forget the suburbs for a minute, US cities are massive, with low population density compared to other parts of the world, like Houston is an hour away from Houston :lol You would need a massive shift in where and how people live to achieve this level of walkability people dream about.
 
That’s true too, I’m right outside downtown St. Paul.

To get to the west side of Minneapolis it’s a journey on its own. Forget about it on a bus. :lol
 
Ohio actually had a grant from the Obama administration to build a high speed rail system that connected the major areas from Cincinnati to Cleveland. It got canned because the Republican governor at the time thought it was stupid and hated Obama. He refused to use the grant money for that and tried to use it for other things. Admin said nope, that money is designated for high speed rail, and if you're not using it for that, you have to give it back...and we have plenty of states who would LOVE to use it properly. That idiot actually gave the money back. I THOUGHT MN was the state that accepted it, but I could be wrong.

East Coast cities with Republican Governors giving back billions in federal dollars so they could cancel transformational public transportation systems

Cincinnati :emoji_handshake: Baltimore​

https://www.politico.com/news/magaz...pt-black-baltimore-segregated-and-poor-367930

"Sorely missing is a long-planned east-west transit route that would connect isolated Black Baltimore neighborhoods to downtown and suburban job centers and to other rail lines. In 2014, the Obama administration offered Maryland a selective “New Starts” grant of $900 million to finally build what was called the Red Line — a project that would not only have connected thousands of Black Marylanders to better jobs but would also create a comprehensive transit system that might restart the Baltimore region’s economy and improve race relations by building literal connections between communities.

Today, there’s no construction of rail in Baltimore. The $900 million has been returned to the federal government. The state of Maryland redirected $736 million of state funds originally set aside for the Red Line to building roads instead — in predominantly white areas. And the U.S. Department of Transportation, which was supposed to investigate whether that decision was illegal and discriminatory, quietly closed the case without making any public findings.

Transportation investment and disinvestment have been central in Baltimore’s long saga of racial segregation and inequity, and the Red Line was the most recent chapter. Since Gov. Larry Hogan killed the Red Line in 2015, it has become a rallying cry for transit and racial-justice activists in Baltimore and beyond"
 


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Public transit in the US sucks, but I think people drastically oversimplify the problem. Forget the suburbs for a minute, US cities are massive, with low population density compared to other parts of the world, like Houston is an hour away from Houston :lol You would need a massive shift in where and how people live to achieve this level of walkability people dream about.

Houston and most Texan big cities are kind of outliers, aren't they? The oil barons specifically rejected public transit in favor of cars from the get go, and urban planning reflected that wish. It's different from many Midwest and West Coast cities that had public transit before they were torn down.
 
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