***Official Political Discussion Thread***

I got my posts deleted by meth too, you don't see me out here pitching a fit and crying about it.

stop playing the victim all the time dude, you sound dumb af. you're a grown man on a forum that wouldn't exist if it wasn't for meth.

he spends his own time for free moderating this place, this isn't a free for all because he doesn't want it to be and he runs it so deal with it.

you're really online as a grown man complaining about a mod bullying you? :lol
 
Haven't been in this thread for a long time, I see Delk still providing quality entertainment.
 
Crypto feels like a small group of dudes who get rich by superficially hyping up a larger group of uninformed dudes. It's the same feeling as the whole GameStop/AMC thing a few years ago. A couple dudes made millions and a larger group of wannabe finance bros were losing hundreds, thousands and tens of thousands of dollars... but somehow felt great because they "stayed in" and didn't sell. It's wild.

Meh.

I made 25k off AMC. Crypto and random coins popping is definitely a scam though :rofl:

Hawk Tua is going to have to start an OF and back up her words to pay these legal fees she's about to get hit with.
 
Americans are obsessed with pissing their money away, hawk tuah, SPORTS BETTING, gambling everywhere, gas station, casino, bar etc etc.

nobody wants protection in crypto if you get rugged thats on you. :lol outside of BTC its just another form of gambling.
Sure but depending on how the rugpull is structured, it can still be a prosecutable offense. By default it's prosecuted under wire fraud and potential conspiracy charges against co-conspirators. Other additional charges can include associated money laundering or embezzlement.

It really all depends on the mechanism to pull the rug. A 'soft' rug pull is typically legal, which is where the creators/investors drive up the value pre-release and then immediately dump all of it upon release at its peak and abandon the project while everyone else loses 99% of their money. Is it a scam? Absolutely. Is it illegal? No, as long as you just dump your own tokens and that's the end of it.

A 'hard' rug pull is unquestionably illegal, and Logan Paul's CryptoZoo is a perfect example of that. The project did not work, was never going to work, and to this day does not work. Most buyers were not even able to withdraw money or get any form of refund for the non-functioning project. Hence the lawsuit seeking damages.
CryptoZoo was abandoned instantly after Logan Paul's co-conspirators immediately dumped their tokens and the customers noticed that basically all core functions of the project did not function, knowing that the investors could not even withdraw their money if they used their tokens of 'eggs', a non-functioning part of the project. The only people who made money were Logan Paul's co-conspirators or people who did not spend the token (which prevents withdrawing money) and immediately sold as well.
 
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Sure but depending on how the rugpull is structured, it can still be a prosecutable offense. By default it's prosecuted under wire fraud and potential conspiracy charges against co-conspirators. Other additional charges can include associated money laundering or embezzlement.

It really all depends on the mechanism to pull the rug. A 'soft' rug pull is typically legal, which is where the creators/investors drive up the value pre-release and then immediately dump all of it upon release at its peak and abandon the project while everyone else loses 99% of their money. Is it a scam? Absolutely. Is it illegal? No, as long as you just dump your own tokens and that's the end of it.

A 'hard' rug pull is unquestionably illegal, and Logan Paul's CryptoZoo is a perfect example of that. The project did not work, was never going to work, and to this day does not work.
It was abandoned immediately after Logan Paul's co-conspirators immediately dumped their tokens, knowing that the investors could not even withdraw their money if they used their tokens of 'eggs', a non-functioning part of the project.

I’m pretty sure what hawk tuah girl did was legal, she owned 70% of the coins and dumped them.

I get what you’re saying but at the end of the day if you’re stupid people will always be able to scam you. You can’t always help that.

It’s not like all crypto is scams either, it’s just another thing to “speculate” or gamble on.
 
Meh.

I made 25k off AMC. Crypto and random coins popping is definitely a scam though :rofl:

Hawk Tua is going to have to start an OF and back up her words to pay these legal fees she's about to get hit with.

Half this thread is either heavy in the stock or crypto thread or both. :lol

Not really gonna be sympathetic in here.
 
I’m pretty sure what hawk tuah girl did was legal, she owned 70% of the coins and dumped them.

I get what you’re saying but at the end of the day if you’re stupid people will always be able to scam you. You can’t always help that.

It’s not like all crypto is scams either, it’s just another thing to “speculate” or gamble on.
Yeah I agree the Hawk Tuah girl would fall under a soft rug pull. As far as I've seen there's no misrepresentations or issues with the functionality of the project, it was just a quick rugpull at the expensive of people dumb enough to fall for it.
It's still a scam either way, and her co-conspirators in the Coffeezilla interview make their intent to scam quite apparent by talking about how these projects target uninformed people, ...
The plan from its inception was to pull the rug immediately. That doesn't make anything about it illegal though, and anyone with 2 functioning brain cells could see this was a blatant scam waiting to happen.

I don't know exactly how you'd make this soft rug pulls illegal, if there's even a way at all, but it's such an extremely rampant issue that it should probably at least be looked at.
Possibly some way through false advertising, given that a lot of these schemes involve the creators repeatedly claiming they're in this for the long haul and won't pull the rug.
I imagine with some legal tinkering, you could probably fashion a criminal charge out of something like that.

There's nothing inherently wrong with crypto, I think it's a great invention. Without cryptocurrency, my social media hustle would've been a lot harder. Paypal tends to come with frequent freezing of my account for an EU money laundering compliance probe, which I've cleared every year for the past 7 years or so. The only time I've had a similar issue with crypto was when Bitstamp sent a Suspicious Activity Report regarding a $20k payment I received from a shady Russian for a Telegram username. That resulted in my bank flagging it as well and being called in for questioning by the federal tax dept, which again I also cleared up without issue. I have a literal thesis about the value of social media usernames lying around just for this purpose :lol:

The lack of any real oversight does lead to a huge percentage of both profits and losses in crypto coming from rugpull scams though.
Most of them probably legal, some of them not so much.
 
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Yeah, I mean crypto started with good intentions and a lot of it still is well intended.

There’s always going to be people trying to take your money or scam you. This is just another example of it.

On the flip side no matter when you invested in btc you’re up money at this time.
 
Yeah, I mean crypto started with good intentions and a lot of it still is well intended.

There’s always going to be people trying to take your money or scam you. This is just another example of it.

On the flip side no matter when you invested in btc you’re up money at this time.
That's another benefit of only accepting payments in BTC or ETH, I usually gain some money on top of the initial transaction.
Paypal would save me the hastle of conversion, withdrawing, ... but in the social media space you're pretty likely to be dealing with cybercriminals, money launderers, ... so it's best to just take Bitcoin and don't ask questions about where it came from. Unlike Paypal there's also no way for someone to scam you with a false chargeback claim.
 
Exactly it’s global

And you can trace all the transactions on da block chain if da feds really want to investigate.
 


Shocking.

Zios use active voice in a headline about violence against children.

Moreover, the article itself has zero nuance or understanding of the complex history of the region in which this violence spontaneously happened in.

It’s funny how uncomplicated the situation is when it’s non Muslim children being harmed.
 
My issue is that there are numerous individuals in this thread who antagonize and troll; however, my post highlighting hypocrisy related to gun violence discussion gets a lengthy response from Meth threatening to revoke my access.
So you’ve been antagonizing and trolling users on here for almost an entire decade, and the real injustice is finally holding you accountable for it?

Those who’ve reacted to your provocations with rule violations have indeed been penalized - as many have attested in the preceding posts. Sometimes this happens after you’ve seen a post, sometimes posts that haven’t been reported get lost in the shuffle, but the rules have indeed been enforced.

You’ve been shown the benefit of the doubt for over eight years. That is the antithesis of “over-policing.”

What you seem to want is a double standard - to throw rocks, hide your hands, and then tug at the mods’ pant legs and have them act as your sword and shield when people take your bait and react with vicious slurs like “shut up.”

I’m putting you on notice that those days are over.


You allowed me to be taunted and antagonized over supporting President Trump during one election cycle, even after I admitted the mistake.
Even if you took longer than usual breaks from concern trolling Democrats in 2024 when Trump was peddling racist conspiracy theories and platforming watermelon “jokes” at his rallies, that still leaves 2016 and 2020.

You’ve not truly admitted the mistake. Rather than making common cause with others over issues you claim to care about, and discussing those issues in good faith, you clearly intend to spend the foreseeable future needling people who actually care enough about, say, the death penalty to oppose the people who support it.

You really only have one move, and it’s tone policing. All the “yikes,” “so much for the tolerant left” stuff seizes on anecdotal incidents to prove that the liberals aren’t actually moral after all, so why not just be selfish? You’ve been using this thread as a coping mechanism to rationalize your own choices by pushing people who hold your former values far enough that one of them will treat you with hostility so you can feign offense and pretend they’re the real bullies and bigots, that they forsook you as opposed to the inverse. It’s the same self-pitying one act play every time.

We’ve had eight years of this. What happens? You dangle your little rage bait, try to “own the libs,” and then someone inevitably asks you to explain why you’ve opposed - and constantly grief those who support - the party that’s been working to abolish the death penalty while yourself supporting and making excuses for the guy who publicly called for the Exonerated Five to be put to death and presided over more federal executions than the previous ten presidents combined. And then? Either you flee, having successfully “triggered” someone who cares about the death penalty, as you claim to, or you try to lure them out into the weeds and distract/annoy them while hoping they’ll take a swing at you so a moderator can step in and punish them on your behalf.

This is not acting in good faith.

You’re an arsonist complaining about smoke inhalation.


If this were about preventing you from expressing actual views, you wouldn’t have been given three whole election cycles to do so before your speech was “chilled.”

It’s about trolling.

Your excuse is that other people sometimes do it. They do, but not with anywhere near your consistency and frequency. When warned or asked to stop, they stop. If not, they are removed. You just get “busy” with “work” and wait for the next opportunity to find an example of a liberal being less than virtuous so you can repeat this process all over again.

Every regular here can see what you’re doing. It’s not sophisticated. It’s not clever. It’s not subtle.
It’s not going to continue.
 


Hotel chair mindset

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Have a seat Mr. Yang.
 


Today has been a rough day for those who fantasize about murdering unhoused people.

At the risk of "moral grandstanding"


You shouldn't shoot CEO's of companies you don't like

AND

you shouldn't choke to death homeless mentally ill people on the subway...
 
All he does it **** post and troll.

We’re all probably guilty in here of breaking a rule here or there but everyone else has normal conversations with members most the time.
Luka without a jumpshot:

Shove. Flop. Cry. Repeat.

At the risk of "moral grandstanding"


You shouldn't shoot CEO's of companies you don't like

AND

you shouldn't choke to death homeless mentally ill people on the subway...

You keep saying this like you’re expecting resistance, but is anyone accusing you of sanctimonious moral grandstanding for saying “murder is bad?”

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there were enough people celebrating his death that Meth issued a giant warning post about it, and the post I responded to accused Yang of having a "****old" mindset for saying murdering CEO's is bad.

so i don't think im wrong for thinking i might get push back on what should be an obvious point.
 
it might be obvious to a guy with socialized medicine.

Some people say violence is never ok, some say kill your oppressor.

Either way you aren’t going to get everyone here to agree.

I saw Ronny Chieng talking about it and the whole audience immediately busted out laughing at the murder.
 
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it might be obvious to a guy with socialized medicine.

Some people say violence is never ok, some say kill your oppressor.

Either way you aren’t going to get everyone here to agree.

I saw Ronny cheng talking about it and the whole audience immediately busted out laughing at the murder.
i enjoy dark, edgy comedy. so I can totally understand laughing at this in the context of stand up comedy. there have been some pretty funny dark jokes.

in the context of political analysis? i dunno feels a little cringe to me.
 
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