Official Eminem - Relapse Thread - May 19th

Originally Posted by iHateTimeDotCom

Originally Posted by sdfbheat

what the %%$# happened to this thread?!?!?

conservatives and all this mumbo jumbo
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dude's about to go Diamond in a month
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how u #1 in every country in the world besides Spain and Portugal?!

Not the best Marshall Mathers album however it is pretty solid for someone who been gone for almost 5 years....Relapse 2 gonna do the same numbers if not better...I mean dude already set for life...how do you explain this?

Serious question now that remotely everybody has heard the album....Does Em get a HOF spot??
he in the hall of fame just of records he broke and his skill level... if u just had to base it off his music prolly not...

I agree with you whole-heartedly Time....even though personally I enjoy the music...it would be based off of record sales, which are ******ed....and skilllevel as a white rapper breaking ground...HOF rapper....yeah pretty much

Being white. Duh.
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easy pickens
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Originally Posted by M16

sdfbheat wrote: how u #1 in every country in the world besides Spain and Portugal?!


Being white. Duh.

Really?

Because I sure as hell know Asher Roth, Paul Wall and Lil Wyte have never come close to seeing Em numbers.

And before I get a rant about these guys not being the only white rappers I was basing it off being mainstream and white.

Also something I noticed. Each album in Em's discography is about a different time in his life and you can really feel what his life is like during thetime they were being made. Something on a personal lever that you don't get from any other rapper. I just find it unique and interesting.
 
relapse is bunz....
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you know how i kno em aint real??? this dude did so many drugs he cant even tell he dont even sound the same no more... its like hes trying harder to soundworse... marshall has gone the way of mr. giles... album FAIL
 
Originally Posted by iHateTimeDotCom

Originally Posted by YardFather

Originally Posted by M16

sdfbheat wrote: how u #1 in every country in the world besides Spain and Portugal?!


Being white. Duh.

Really?

Because I sure as hell know Asher Roth, Paul Wall and Lil Wyte have never come close to seeing Em numbers.

And before I get a rant about these guys not being the only white rappers I was basing it off being mainstream and white.

Also something I noticed. Each album in Em's discography is about a different time in his life and you can really feel what his life is like during the time they were being made. Something on a personal lever that you don't get from any other rapper. I just find it unique and interesting.
if u call eminem's music personal then u dont listen to *%+%...
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8 mile is the most personal but u got dudes like joe budden and beans out there...



You kidding me?

I feel like I know Em's life story from listening to his discography.

And here's one of the better reviews of Relapse I've seen:

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Genre: Rap
Release Date: 05/19/2009

Eminem placed himself in exile shortly after Encore wound down, a seclusion initially designed as creative down-time but which soon descended into darkness fueled by another failed marriage to his wife Kim and the death of his best friend Proof, culminating in years of drug addiction. Em none too subtly refers to that addiction with the title of Relapse, his first album in five years, but that relapse also refers to Marshall Mathers reviving Slim Shady and returning to rap. Relapse is designed to grab attention, to stand as evidence that Eminem remains a musical force and, of course, a provocateur spinning out violent fantasies and baiting celebrities, occasionally merging the two as when he needles one-time girlfriend Mariah Carey and her new husband Nick Cannon. Strive as he might to make an impact in the world at large -- and succeeding in many respects -- Relapse is the sound of severe isolation, the product of too many years of Eminem playing king in his castle in a dilapidated Detroit, subsisting on pills, nachos, torture porn, and E! Daily News. As he sifted through junk culture, he also tweaked his rhyming, crafting an elongated elastic flow that contrasts startlingly with Dr. Dre's intensified beats, ominous magnifications of his thud-and-stutter signature. Musically, this is white-hot, dense, and dramatic not just in the production but in Eminem's delivery; he stammers and slides, slipping into an accent that resembles Paul Rudd's Rastafarian leprechaun from I Love You Man and then back again. His flow is so good, his wordplay so sharp, it seems churlish to wish that he addressed something other than his long-standing obsessions and demons. True, he spends a fair amount of the album exorcising his addiction -- smartly tying it to his never-abating mother issues on "My Mom" -- but most of Relapse finds Eminem rhyming twitchily about his old standbys: homosexuals, starlets, and violent fantasies, weaving all of them together on "Same Song and Dance" where he abducts and murders Lindsay Lohan, suggesting more than a passing familiarity with I Know Who Killed Me. The many, many references to Kim Kardashian's big #%! and minutely detailed sadism can get a wee bit tiring, Relapse isn't really about what Eminem says, it's about how he says it. He's emerged from his exile musically re-energized and the best way to illustrate that is to go through the same old song and dance again, the familiarity of the words drawing focus on his insane, inspired flow and Dre's production. That might not quite make Relapse culturally relevant -- recycled Christopher Reeve jokes aren't exactly fresh -- but it is musically vital, which is all Eminem really needs to be at this point.

~Stephen Thomas Erlewine, All Music Guide
 
Originally Posted by YardFather

Originally Posted by M16

sdfbheat wrote: how u #1 in every country in the world besides Spain and Portugal?!


Being white. Duh.

Really?

Because I sure as hell know Asher Roth, Paul Wall and Lil Wyte have never come close to seeing Em numbers.

And before I get a rant about these guys not being the only white rappers I was basing it off being mainstream and white.

Also something I noticed. Each album in Em's discography is about a different time in his life and you can really feel what his life is like during the time they were being made. Something on a personal lever that you don't get from any other rapper. I just find it unique and interesting.





Because Em was the first one to introduce most of these Europeans to Rap. Half these ignorant foreigners thing he invented it. Combine this with trash Em fillshis albums with specifically aimed at getting as many people to listen to you as possible and there you go. Em said himself... he would sell half what he doesif he wasn't white.
 
I was waiting until release and got sick on Monday, haven't been feeling well enough to go buy it or even listen to it, but I just bought it and I'mfinally about to listen to it.
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Originally Posted by de PHX Jose

Just listening to "Beautiful". seems like Em has lost it and should just retire already
You can say you don't like the album because the content sucks, but you cannot say he lost it. Outside of the questionable content and thevoice this is some of his best work, meaning flow and rhyming.
 
Originally Posted by de PHX Jose

Just listening to "Beautiful". seems like Em has lost it and should just retire already

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on a side note ... i took a trip today and turned my ipod to em on random ...
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... i forgot how much @#!* he has that he completely RIPS ... songs like "Marshall Mathers"

Yo, you might see me joggin, you might see me walkin
You might see me walkin a dead rottweiler dog
with it's head chopped off in the park with a spiked collar
hollerin at him cause the son of a %%$$% won't quit barkin
(grrrr, ARF ARF) Or leanin out a window, with a cocked shotgun
Drivin up the block in the car that they shot 'Pac in
Lookin for Big's killers, dressed in ridiculous
blue and red like I don't see what the big deal is
Double barrel twelve gauge bigger than Chris Wallace
Pissed off, cause Biggie and 'Pac just missed all this
Watchin all these cheap imitations get rich off 'em
and get dollars that shoulda been there's like they switched wallets
And amidst all this Crist' poppin and wristwatches
I just sit back and just watch and just get nauseous
and walk around with an empty bottle of Remi Martin
startin @#!* like some 26-year-old skinny Cartman ("God damnit!")



i was like
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for 4 hours there and back ...
 
man this album gets better after every listen....flow is amazing....same song and dance, stay wide awake, medicine ball....he murders it....i can listen toevery song besides we made you. I love this album. Listening to him on same song and dance just puts you in the mind of a killer....
 
realtalk Im begining to think 98% of ya who hate Em are just secretly eating themselves inside because a white guy has pierced his way so far in a music genredominated by african americans

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actually it probably is ... especially when ive seen many of you make posts which indicate you dont even understand music ... ole "you think you know, butyou have no idea" type dudes LOL ...
 
Originally Posted by Crank Lucas

realtalk Im begining to think 98% of ya who hate Em are just secretly eating themselves inside because a white guy has pierced his way so far in a music genre dominated by african americans

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I *$#! with plenty of better white rappers so no, it's probably true for maybe 5%
 
Originally Posted by LilStarZ07

actually it probably is ... especially when ive seen many of you make posts which indicate you dont even understand music ... ole "you think you know, but you have no idea" type dudes LOL ...
Those ppl are a small percentage, if Em's whiteness is going to be involved I usually see it used in the context where it's because ofthat he's completely ignored. Dudes I've come across who are informed about hip hop wouldn't put the energy in to hate on Em, they'd hear/see apost about him being GOAT or Relapse being album of the year and just scoff at it and move on.
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Originally Posted by de PHX Jose

Just listening to "Beautiful". seems like Em has lost it and should just retire already
thats just straight up hate son. pipe down.
 
My friend said it best
Asked him what he thought of it... responded by saying its a good album but thinks it'll go over most people's heads...

Which seems to be whats going on
 
Originally Posted by M16

Originally Posted by Crank Lucas

realtalk Im begining to think 98% of ya who hate Em are just secretly eating themselves inside because a white guy has pierced his way so far in a music genre dominated by african americans

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I *$#! with plenty of better white rappers so no, it's probably true for maybe 5%

Shut the ##!% up already. Aint no white rapper better than Em. Few rappers period are better than Em.

Cragmatic you right. This album is definitely going over people's heads.
 
Going over ppl's heads in what aspect? What exactly is going over ppl's heads about this album?

I hope yall not gonna talk about the theme of the album cuz it's obvious and it's just corny. An excuse to go back to the shh that got him successfulafter Encore failed.
 
Originally Posted by Master Zik

Going over ppl's heads in what aspect? What exactly is going over ppl's heads about this album?

I hope yall not gonna talk about the theme of the album cuz it's obvious and it's just corny. An excuse to go back to the shh that got him successful after Encore failed.

In the sense of people like you don't understand that the album still consists of definite talented lyricism despite the odd things he's talking about.
 
Originally Posted by KnowledgeTheFoundation

Originally Posted by Master Zik

Going over ppl's heads in what aspect? What exactly is going over ppl's heads about this album?

I hope yall not gonna talk about the theme of the album cuz it's obvious and it's just corny. An excuse to go back to the shh that got him successful after Encore failed.

In the sense of people like you don't understand that the album still consists of definite talented lyricism despite the odd things he's talking about.

which has nothin to do with goin over people heads
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To me Beautiful is the best song on the album...and to dude who brought up "marshall Mathers" hear his voice on that song? nothin like anything onthis album i tell ya.
 
Originally Posted by jthagreat

Originally Posted by KnowledgeTheFoundation

Originally Posted by Master Zik

Going over ppl's heads in what aspect? What exactly is going over ppl's heads about this album?

I hope yall not gonna talk about the theme of the album cuz it's obvious and it's just corny. An excuse to go back to the shh that got him successful after Encore failed.

In the sense of people like you don't understand that the album still consists of definite talented lyricism despite the odd things he's talking about.

which has nothin to do with goin over people heads
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To me Beautiful is the best song on the album...and to dude who brought up "marshall Mathers" hear his voice on that song? nothin like anything on this album i tell ya.

Who gives a damn what his voice sounds like? It doesn't stop him from being a great MC.
 
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