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this post is def koudie approved !!
- much luv, stay freshhh !!
This man been fried for damn near a decade straight. Underrated poster.
no one should have a billion dollars. no, not him either.
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This man been fried for damn near a decade straight. Underrated poster.
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Throw a few sandwiches in a chicken coup and they’ll all be eaten with the quickness.
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What a smart*** rebuttal, I love it.
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so, in this scenario we both accept, are you in the bun or in the coop waiting on Farmer Brown's feeding time?
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With capitalism bread is at that store waiting on you. Not you waiting in line for bread.
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That's not how it really works.
With capitalism, the shopkeeper gets a limited supply of bread and charges the max for it. With laissez-faire capitalism, the ship owner is in the right to ask you a few (or all your eggs) in exchange for just enough bread to keep you alive today. Can you make enough eggs by tomorrow to feed yourself? Remember, you're the chicken.
It's cool to mention supply and demand when you're standing tall on the supply side of the equation, but it's dishonest to act as if supply is infinite as soon as you find yourself on the demand side of capitalism.
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What I said is how exactly how it goes.
No one is limited unless they start breaking laws, infringing on people's rights or threatening national security. Which are things that good business should never be doing. The sky is the limit, that's why there are billionaires.
Companies would never break laws, infringe on people’s rights, or threaten national security!
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You're blaming the people here, the system did no wrong. If they take that chance that's on them. The system is in place to give everyone a chance to succeed.
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if a system is set up to encourage predatory actions, is it also set up to give everyone a chance to succeed?
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Just quit being weak, everyone has opportunity. It's all there for the taking. Dudes who are broke or unhappy with life are the only ones complaining about capitalism.
I'm done here, I've got to go spend some money to perpetuate this.
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nah, its called unilateral disarmament, like many socialist ya practice a do as i say not as i do...
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that's what ends up happening.
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done you may be, but it doesn't change the fact that fortunes are made using the shared resources of society.
people need to realize this is not just broke hippie talk...you know what happened when Alaska state government realized in the late 70s that the new oil pipeline wasn't going to keep pumping money forever and that it wasn't ******* fair that only current residents of the state would profit from a public resource?
they made the Alaska Permanent Fund, ensuring everybody living there is still collecting checks from it today.
there is both motivation and precedent for advocating the masses receive their fair share of the future.
capitalism isn't inherently bad, it just needs some serious restructuring.
...get them rewards points tho, cousin.
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I’m blaming both.
You’re relying on a deflection cause you got called out. You’re pretty transparent. I’m sure you have no problem with policies that benefit you, whether they’re capitalist or socialist.
You kinda just sound like you lack empathy.
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Sure, that's why Boeing was able to self-validate its unsafe 737 Max which killed more than 300 people.
You don't sound like you have much experience in how the system works.
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a billion dollars is A MILLION TIMES A THOUISAND. Having a million dollars is excessive and have that multiplied by a thousand is mind boggling. Zuckerberg has 47 billion? CRAZY
Resources arent unlimited in this world, so when 1 person has that much to themselves they are essentially starving others. This is a VERY UNEQUAL WORLD and income inequality is a disease in itself.
In America 55% of all wealth is usually inherited. People who are billionaires for the most part dont work harder than others, therefore they are not derserving of it.
I saw some stat recently said that the richest 27 people on Earth have the same amount of wealth as the poorest 3.8 billion people.
Thats just F-ED up, and dont try to rationalize it because yall in here are more closer to the bottom than the top.
Resources arent unlimited in this world, so when 1 person has that much to themselves they are essentially starving others. This is a VERY UNEQUAL WORLD and income inequality is a disease in itself.
In America 55% of all wealth is usually inherited. People who are billionaires for the most part dont work harder than others, therefore they are not derserving of it.
I saw some stat recently said that the richest 27 people on Earth have the same amount of wealth as the poorest 3.8 billion people.
Thats just F-ED up, and dont try to rationalize it because yall in here are more closer to the bottom than the top.
I beg your pardon???
Slavery helped finance the Industrial Revolution in England. Plantation owners, shipbuilders, and merchants connected with the slave trade accumulated vast fortunes that established banks and heavy industry in Europe and expanded the reach of capitalism worldwide.
"Where The Empire of Cotton focuses on the material, institutional, and economic foundations and legacies of slavery, state formation, and market expansion, The Empire of Necessity (though describing in detail the labor and environmental processes associated with a range of free and unfree labor) is concerned more with the psychic and imaginative structure of slavery.… Capitalism is, among other things, a massive process of ego formation, the creation of modern selves, the illusion of individual autonomy, the cultivation of distinction and preference, the idea that individuals had their own moral conscience, based on individual reason and virtue. The wealth created by slavery generalized these ideals of self-creation, allowing more and more people, mostly men, to imagine themselves as autonomous and integral beings, with inherent rights and self-interests not subject to the jurisdiction of others. This process of individuation creates a schism between inner and outer, in which self-interest, self-cultivation, and personal moral authority drive a wedge between seeming and being. My point is that slavery was central to capitalist individuation, to the schism between inner and outer, which I believe accounts for the endurance of racism in American society, its quicksilver nature, as well as for its deniability. This is a dinner, not a conference. So I’ll end by cutting to the chase: I think the story at the center of The Empire of Necessity—revolving around the New Englander Amasa Delano’s complete and utter blindness to the social world around him—captures the power of a new kind of racism, based not on theological or philosophical doctrine but rather on the emotional need to measure one’s absolute freedom in inverse relation to another’s absolute slavishness. This was a racism that was born in chattel slavery but didn’t die with chattel slavery, instead evolving into today’s cult of individual supremacy, which, try as it might, can’t seem to shake off its white supremacist roots."
Capitalism and Slavery
Each generation seems condemned to have to prove the obvious anew: slavery created the modern world, and the modern world’s divisions are the product of slavery.
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Of all the countries of the Earth, all but 5 (FIVE) have fallen under the sphere of European colonializism, conquest, and capitalism.
European colonialism conquered every country in the world but these five
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Society can't advance if there's no incentive for individuals to take risks and reap the rewards that come with it.
That's why socialism doesn't work
That's why socialism doesn't work
“What bothers you, Martin?” I asked. “What’s got you in such a surly mood?”
“Newark,” Martin said, and proceeded to tell us of his unnerving visit with Amiri Baraka. “Beyond what an eruption in that city would mean, how it would take us off-course. I’m just so disturbed at what I’m hearing more and more. Somehow, frustration over the [Vietnam] war has brought forth this idea that the solution resides in violence. What I cannot get across to these young people is that I wholly embrace everything they feel! It’s just the tactics we can’t agree on. I have more in common with these young people than with anybody else in this movement. I feel their rage. I feel their pain. I feel their frustration. It’s the system that’s the problem, and it’s choking the breath out of our lives.”
In the pause that followed, Andy replied, “Well, I don’t know, Martin. It’s not the entire system. It’s only part of it, and I think we can fix that.”
Suddenly, Martin lost his temper. “I don’t need to hear from you, Andy,” he said. “I’ve heard enough from you. You’re a capitalist, and I’m not. And so we don’t see eye to eye — on this and a lot of other stuff.”
It was an awkward moment. Martin was really angry. But I understood the subtext. Deep down, Andy was ambivalent about the Poor People’s Campaign. All the other goals that we had set for ourselves up to this moment were tangible. Almost all of them were focused on justice. But when it came to economics, the goals were more complicated, the lines more blurred. Andy didn’t believe that all the victims came from the same level of experience. He felt that there was a critical difference between poor whites and Hispanics, on one hand, and poor blacks on the other. This disparity, he felt, could make the Poor People’s Campaign a rocky journey.
The tension peaked. “The trouble,” Martin went on, “is that we lived in a failed system. Capitalism does not permit an even flow of economic resources. With this system, a small privileged few are rich beyond conscience and almost all others are doomed to be poor at some level.” Taking a sip from his glass, he continued, “That’s the way the system works. And since we know that the system will not change the rules, we’re going to have to change the system.”
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“Newark,” Martin said, and proceeded to tell us of his unnerving visit with Amiri Baraka. “Beyond what an eruption in that city would mean, how it would take us off-course. I’m just so disturbed at what I’m hearing more and more. Somehow, frustration over the [Vietnam] war has brought forth this idea that the solution resides in violence. What I cannot get across to these young people is that I wholly embrace everything they feel! It’s just the tactics we can’t agree on. I have more in common with these young people than with anybody else in this movement. I feel their rage. I feel their pain. I feel their frustration. It’s the system that’s the problem, and it’s choking the breath out of our lives.”
In the pause that followed, Andy replied, “Well, I don’t know, Martin. It’s not the entire system. It’s only part of it, and I think we can fix that.”
Suddenly, Martin lost his temper. “I don’t need to hear from you, Andy,” he said. “I’ve heard enough from you. You’re a capitalist, and I’m not. And so we don’t see eye to eye — on this and a lot of other stuff.”
It was an awkward moment. Martin was really angry. But I understood the subtext. Deep down, Andy was ambivalent about the Poor People’s Campaign. All the other goals that we had set for ourselves up to this moment were tangible. Almost all of them were focused on justice. But when it came to economics, the goals were more complicated, the lines more blurred. Andy didn’t believe that all the victims came from the same level of experience. He felt that there was a critical difference between poor whites and Hispanics, on one hand, and poor blacks on the other. This disparity, he felt, could make the Poor People’s Campaign a rocky journey.
The tension peaked. “The trouble,” Martin went on, “is that we lived in a failed system. Capitalism does not permit an even flow of economic resources. With this system, a small privileged few are rich beyond conscience and almost all others are doomed to be poor at some level.” Taking a sip from his glass, he continued, “That’s the way the system works. And since we know that the system will not change the rules, we’re going to have to change the system.”
Did MLK Say This About Capitalism?
Quote: "Since we know that the system will not change the rules, we're going to have to change the system."
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Slavery is at the core of Capitalism and exploitation of Labor continues to be one of it's several deficiencies. My comment was directed towards more recent -specifically latter half of the 20th (Clintonism) and 21st century effects and while the negatives persist, my original comment rings true.I beg your pardon???
Slavery helped finance the Industrial Revolution in England. Plantation owners, shipbuilders, and merchants connected with the slave trade accumulated vast fortunes that established banks and heavy industry in Europe and expanded the reach of capitalism worldwide.
"Where The Empire of Cotton focuses on the material, institutional, and economic foundations and legacies of slavery, state formation, and market expansion, The Empire of Necessity (though describing in detail the labor and environmental processes associated with a range of free and unfree labor) is concerned more with the psychic and imaginative structure of slavery.… Capitalism is, among other things, a massive process of ego formation, the creation of modern selves, the illusion of individual autonomy, the cultivation of distinction and preference, the idea that individuals had their own moral conscience, based on individual reason and virtue. The wealth created by slavery generalized these ideals of self-creation, allowing more and more people, mostly men, to imagine themselves as autonomous and integral beings, with inherent rights and self-interests not subject to the jurisdiction of others. This process of individuation creates a schism between inner and outer, in which self-interest, self-cultivation, and personal moral authority drive a wedge between seeming and being. My point is that slavery was central to capitalist individuation, to the schism between inner and outer, which I believe accounts for the endurance of racism in American society, its quicksilver nature, as well as for its deniability. This is a dinner, not a conference. So I’ll end by cutting to the chase: I think the story at the center of The Empire of Necessity—revolving around the New Englander Amasa Delano’s complete and utter blindness to the social world around him—captures the power of a new kind of racism, based not on theological or philosophical doctrine but rather on the emotional need to measure one’s absolute freedom in inverse relation to another’s absolute slavishness. This was a racism that was born in chattel slavery but didn’t die with chattel slavery, instead evolving into today’s cult of individual supremacy, which, try as it might, can’t seem to shake off its white supremacist roots."
Capitalism and Slavery
Each generation seems condemned to have to prove the obvious anew: slavery created the modern world, and the modern world’s divisions are the product of slavery.
Of all the countries of the Earth, all but 5 (FIVE) have fallen under the sphere of European colonializism, conquest, and capitalism.
European colonialism conquered every country in the world but these five
Map: European colonialism conquered every country in the world but these five
Vox is a general interest news site for the 21st century. Its mission: to help everyone understand our complicated world, so that we can all help shape it. In text, video and audio, our reporters explain politics, policy, world affairs, technology, culture, science, the climate crisis, money...
Globalization and capitalisms reach within it, has lifted Hundreds of millions out of poverty. There is no denying it.
Let's not forget the recent movement towards Stakeholder capitalism vs the antiquated shareholder view that persisted for the past 50 years. There is hope.
So you believe "society cant advance" without capitalsim because your definition of capitalism is an "incentive for individuals to take risks and reap the rewards that come with it"?
When the actual definition of capitalism is:
an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
The "private owners" did not gain thier status by "tak(ing) risks and reap(ing) the rewards that come with it".
They decided it was cool to own other human beings Fam.
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Bruh!!!!!
Capitalism / Globalism (GREED) has caused the poverty in the first place! WTF!!!!
You gotta be kidding me right now.
