Black Culture Discussion Thread

[Maximus Meridius]

Why is THAT even a "thing" to not want a president to do?

Because all Bill Clinton had to do was go on Arsenio Hall, say he smoked weed and a black folks loved him. While behind the scenes he was helping to destroy black families. Democrats knew all they had to do was show they're "cool" to get black votes and allow republicans to be the bad guys. Obama kinda played from that same playbook.

Kamala know she ain't getting a lot of white men votes, damn sure ain't getting that many white women votes so she has try to get the old and young black vote.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

No, isolated from everything else.

Why does a candidate listening to Cardi even matter?

 

[nawghtyhare]

my man DCAllAfrican

"you cant talk black, and sleep white"

I ain’t saying it’s true
But it is something u should pay attention to

 

[Maximus Meridius]

No, isolated from everything else.

Why does a candidate listening to Cardi even matter?

That's the question people are asking Kamala and her people.

The point dude was making is she using it to pander to black people.

 

[nawghtyhare]

That's the question people are asking Kamala and her people.

The point dude was making is she using it to pander to black people.

But she not black she a person of color

 

[KHUFU]

But she not black she a person of color

She'd be sitting in the back of the bus tho'.

 

[illwill8710]

Why is THAT even a "thing" to not want a president to do?

It's just my personal opinion but I find it off putting that she's using Cardi to pander to black people. I believe in frequencies and association. The fact that she wants the world to believe that the lyrics of Cardi B is what moves her to do an auntie jig is corny and the kind of class I want from a president. I honestly don't think she listens to that kind of music at all.

The common professional is not sharing their taste in music to their client. That was tacky and my most recent impression of her in a very long time. The fact she decided to lead with that to introduce or re-introduce herself to many Americans was a bad move.

Lastly, and also my sharp personal opinion. TF is she really doing here. There are tons of sisters in positions of power with alot more class than to pull a move like that. I can give a **** less about what a politician is listening to and no one asked for that side of her. There is way too much work to be done for black people and people in general for her influence to be trivialize by her listening to Cardi(who has a checkered past and influence on today's culture). RNS we are out here everyday trying not become a hashtag and uplift our community and she wants to pander to us like this. TFOH

 

[RustyShackleford]

I'm cool on Kamala Harris too but some people should really start reading policy proposals, white papers, and reading about the dynamics of the legislative process.

Like Tariq is dissing her and he beleives some really stupid destructive **** too, and nipticks nonsensical ****. Like so what she danced to Cardi for a few seconds, that is non issue.

 

[nawghtyhare]

She'd be sitting in the back of the bus tho'.

so would a hispanic
but bet u a hispanic wouldn't deny she was hispanic
and claim person of color

 

[layziegunts]

I'm cool on Kamala Harris too but some people should really start reading policy proposals, white papers, and reading about the dynamics of the legislative process.

Like Tariq is dissing her and he beleives some really stupid destructive **** too, and nipticks nonsensical ****. Like so what she danced to Cardi for a few seconds, that is non issue.

Tariq can be the pettiest diva when he is ready, I like him for the most part but sometimes he be reeeaaacccchiiinnnngggg

 

[RustyShackleford]

so would a hispanic
but bet u a hispanic wouldn't deny she was hispanic
and claim person of color

You really a bit too caught up on that ''person of color sound bite". She probably framed it that way to make an inclusionary statement regarding the Democratic coalition.

You can read exerpts from her book. She acknowledges and identifies as a black person. She ain't out here like Tiger. But still, that seems like a silly thing to want to correct.

I think people are rightfully upset and some of the **** she done in the past. But instead of having a level headed nuance conversation about it, they are searching for ways to build a bigger case to dismiss her. Often times with insignificant stuff.

Like the worst thing she did at the Townhall was handwave away how complicit she was in a system she knowledges is unfair and unjust. Secondly she seems to have a blind spot for the systemic forces at pay that cause people to have to interact with the criminal justice system and she gives little thought to how prisoners are exploited in jails and prisons.

I do not like all of Cory Booker's economics but he seems much more knowledgeable on these things.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

That's the question people are asking Kamala and her people.

The point dude was making is she using it to pander to black people.

Everyone panders man.

Everyone.

Even beloved Barry O.

Everyone does it.

 

[tay1]

And that's part of why she's not getting my vote. We don't need to fall for the okie doke anymore. Other groups are being prioritized so they are going hard at appealing to their needs but there are no black issues being addressed directly. We are only being addressed when it comes to getting our vote.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Everyone panders man.

Everyone.

Even beloved Barry O.

Everyone does it.

We know that and people are calling her out on it.

Saying "everybody panders" don't make any less fake. Especially when Kamalas policies have negatively affected black people.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

We know that and people are calling her out on it.

Saying "everybody panders" don't make any less fake. Especially when Kamalas policies have negatively affected black people.

I am saying pandering is only an issue when you (impersonal) doesn't mess with a candidate.

Again, I am strictly talking about the pandering portion and her listening to Cardi being an "issue."

If she didn't have her past, I am sure her listening to Cardi would be a NON-issue.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

And that's why she's not getting my vote. We don't need to fall for the okie doke anymore. Other groups are being prioritized so they are going hard at appealing to their needs but there are no black issues being addressed directly. We are only being addressed when it comes to getting out vote.

At this point, I wonder if folks stay away from that to appease the other side.

Are any of the potential DEM candidates outright saying what they would do for us?

 

[RustyShackleford]

Every politican panders. When Jesse Jackson was running on reparations and socal democracy in the 1980s he still had to go to Iowa and tell white folk he cared about corn and Harleys. Dancing to Cardi for a couple seconds is nothing.

The thing is that people are used to seeing the Obamas. People that they could more readily relate too. Barrack younger, smoked weed as a kid, hooped, had a black wife, got shape ups at barber shops, went to black church, was a community organizer, and toured the country talking about injustice. Everything came off natural for him because it was natural. Black folk related to him because they saw in him dudes they interact with everyday.

Even when other skeptical black people interacted with him they came saying "yeah he a brotha".

Harris at the time does have that. She has to overcome the same skepticism folk have about Obama when they first got to know of him.

 

[tay1]

At this point, I wonder if folks stay away from that to appease the other side.

Are any of the potential DEM candidates outright saying what they would do for us?

Probably so. And candidate directly appealing to black people will not be taken as seriously

There aren't many stating what they will do for us. If so, they are innefective solutions. Like I get the importance of passing a anti lynching bill, but thats not really effective to our current situation. Other solutions many of the candidates are offering blanket solutions that more so appeal to a wider variety of indovodials

 

[RustyShackleford]

And that's part of why she's not getting my vote. We don't need to fall for the okie doke anymore. Other groups are being prioritized so they are going hard at appealing to their needs but there are no black issues being addressed directly. We are only being addressed when it comes to getting out vote.

-The GOP is systematically trying to suppress the black vote. So black voting rights will be a major focus regardless.

-Second what specific issues do you think are being ignored. I often here is criticism but people don't get too specific. Is it that you think done of Harris' positions will have a net benefit for the black community, or is your issue in regards to the rhetoric used. In that things are not labeled specifically "for black people"

 

[tay1]

Every politican panders. When Jesse Jackson was running on reparations and socal democracy in the 1980s he still had to go to Iowa and tell white folk he cared about corn and Harleys. Dancing to Cardi for a couple seconds is nothing.

The thing is that people are used to seeing the Obamas. People that they could more readily relate too. Barrack younger, smoked weed as a kid, hooped, had a black wife, got shape ups at barber shops, went to black church, was a community organizer, and toured the country talking about injustice. Everything came off natural for him because it was natural. Black folk related to him because they saw in him dudes they interact with everyday.

Even when other skeptical black people interacted with him they came saying "yeah he a brotha".

Harris at the time does have that. She has to overcome the same skepticism folk have about Obama when they first got to know of him.

The skepticism surrounding the two are slightly different. For people who didn't care about politics, they were most likely gonna vote because he's black. For those who were skeptical, it was because of his inexperience

For Kamala, it's her inexperience, her political strategy, and her record

 

[KHUFU]

so would a hispanic
but bet u a hispanic wouldn't deny she was hispanic
and claim person of color

The point is, Black is Black. Racism was and is about color, not heritage. Hispanics can say whatever they want, but their butts would be drinking from that colored fountain just like all Black people.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

If I recall correctly, folks on this forums were laughing and playing when HRC was out there doling the damn Nae-Nae in 2014/2015.

All of the black church "rounds" that "they" always do.

I find it ALL insulting

 

[tay1]

The point is, Black is Black. Racism was and is about color, not heritage. Hispanics can say whatever they want, but their butts would be drinking from that colored fountain just like all Black people.

Politically, black is not black. When it comes to racism, yes.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

I am saying pandering is only an issue when you (impersonal) doesn't mess with a candidate.

Again, I am strictly talking about the pandering portion and her listening to Cardi being an "issue."

If she didn't have her past, I am sure her listening to Cardi would be a NON-issue.

But she does have a past of being against black americans so what are you debating?

You the only one stuck on Cardi B. Everybody else just mentioned that as a side bar.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

I am not even just stuck on CARDI, I was making a GENERAL statement about candidates.

I asked dude why does a candidates music choice matter.

That was my question.

That IS my question