2013-2014 NBA Thread - IND @ WAS and OKC @ LAC on ESPN

[shoeking2101]

You know to play the 4 straight championships almost card when you can just as easily play the "they almost lost in the WCF in '00 and '02" card if not for a few lucky bounces here or there.

Duncan's consistency (especially what he has done over the past few years) and moved him into the position where he trumps Kobe all-time. Literally the spurs has never not won 50 games with him, I don't know if people understand just how hard that is to do.

What does "they almost lost" even mean? Every single championship team "almost lost"

 

[shoeking2101]

almost every championship team has lucky bounces here and there.

Literally just said this almost verbatim

 

[sea manup]

 

You know to play the 4 straight championships almost card when you can just as easily play the "they almost lost in the WCF in '00 and '02" card if not for a few lucky bounces here or there.

Duncan's consistency (especially what he has done over the past few years) and moved him into the position where he trumps Kobe all-time. Literally the spurs has never not won 50 games with him, I don't know if people understand just how hard that is to do.

What does "they almost lost" even mean? Every single championship team "almost lost"

except for the 01 lakers 

 

[CP1708]

You know to play the 4 straight championships almost card when you can just as easily play the "they almost lost in the WCF in '00 and '02" card if not for a few lucky bounces here or there.

Duncan's consistency (especially what he has done over the past few years) and moved him into the position where he trumps Kobe all-time. Literally the spurs has never not won 50 games with him, I don't know if people understand just how hard that is to do.

What does "they almost lost" even mean? Every single championship team "almost lost"

I had referenced the Horry shot in game 5 2003 that rimmed in and out, costing LA a chance to win a 4th straight.

So he countered with the Lakers barely got by in 2000 and 02 WCF.

 

[sea manup]

reminds me of that bill simmons youtube video before the finals last year where he was like if this happened differently this year and that happened differently that year, tim duncan would have 6 championships!!!

 

[MVP]

I love people keep putting Tim Duncan in the PF category, when he's been a C since David Robinson retired.

Also the fact that Kobe has eviscerated the Spurs in every playoff series sans 2003, sorry can't put Timmy over him. He's still top 10 all time though.

 

[sea manup]

found the vid

 

[worldbeefreeg]

That's my point, except for '01 (the greatest team I've ever seen), a lot of championships are held together by a few balls bouncing a certain way. Luck matters.

 

[sea manup]

That's my point, except for '01 (the greatest team I've ever seen), a lot of championships are held together by a few balls bouncing a certain way. Luck matters.

hitting shots is not lucky, not boxing out and giving up offensive rebounds is not lucky

there are a bunch of times where the difference between two teams is so marginal that one play ends up being the difference, that doesnt mean it is luck

the best team each year always wins the championship

 

[awwsome]

Kobe in 02-03 or Kobe in 05-06?

Gotta go with 05-06 because it was basically Kobe vs the other team, actually Kobe vs the world.

While he was amazing in 02-03 and it was the beginning of his prime, he had a way better team around him which made it easier for him to flourish.


05-06 was Kobe reuniting with Phil and just being an absolute savage every night. Dude had 27 40 point games, dropped 81 and literally outscored a a playoff team through 3 quarters.

He averaged 43 points through January, remember KD's January?

I don't think I missed a Kobe game that year, he was God level.

 

[do work son]

Man, I'd love to see Curry and co. under D'Antoni.

I think there's enough defensive players in the fold (Bogut, Iguodala, Thompson, Green) coupled with his offense for them to hit their ceiling.

Edit:

Ariza getting $10 million per? WHAT.

I've BEEN trying to say this.

Y'all think dantoni gonna show up and iggy/draymond/bogut/klay gonna just forget how to defend? They already are capable and willing defenders, dantoni if anything will just spike their offensive efficiency

 

[CP1708]

That's my point, except for '01 (the greatest team I've ever seen), a lot of championships are held together by a few balls bouncing a certain way. Luck matters.

I agree with you. My point was, he already had the 3 straight, in hand. They were done, can't take them back.

Had Horry hit that shot, they march on to 4 straight, with him going 30-6-5, All NBA defense (legit back then) playing all 82 after 3 straight Finals runs. With Shaq resting much of the year on company time.

 

[suberzat1]

Jesus would have trouble covering Kobe- George Karl.

 

[sea manup]

no such thing as luck in the playoffs, just one team making a mistake and another team taking advantage of it

miami was not lucky to win game 6, the spurs just did everything wrong in the final minute and miami did everything right to take advantage of it

 

[trynafeelmink]

Gotta go with 05-06 because it was basically Kobe vs the other team, actually Kobe vs the world.

While he was amazing in 02-03 and it was the beginning of his prime, he had a way better team around him which made it easier for him to flourish.


05-06 was Kobe reuniting with Phil and just being an absolute savage every night. Dude had 27 40 point games, dropped 81 and literally outscored a a playoff team through 3 quarters.

He averaged 43 points through January, remember KD's January?

I don't think I missed a Kobe game that year, he was God level.

That 05-06 was the most impressive season i've ever witnessed. Keep in mind that his team consisted of Smush Parker, Chris Mihm, Aaron Mckie, Caron Butler & i believe Lamar Odom also.

He was destroying teams damn near single handed EVERY night.

As far as Duncan's longevity we must also admit that he had the same coach throughout that tenure and for the past 12-13 years has had the exact core of (Manu/Parker) with him. With that said if we are looking at straight individual performances... Kobe last season put up 27,6 & 7 on 46% shooting in his 18th year. to put that in perspective in what many called one of the best seasons ever recorded, Lebron put up 27,8 &7 on 53% shooting.

If that isn't consistency then i don't know what to say.

 

[awwsome]

Chris Mihm and Aaron Mckie, they put him out there with Chris Mihm and Aaron Mckie. :x


Bean still got them to 45 wins in the West.

 

[JD617]

There's some degree of luck involved in any close game.

 

[licensed to ball]

I remember picking that issue up on my way to school.


13 GAMES.
551 POINTS.

Just think about that for a minute....

Epic

 

[awwsome]

There's some degree of luck involved in any close game.

Dudes are out of control man.

 

[sea manup]

I remember picking that issue up on my way to school.

13 GAMES.
551 POINTS.

Just think about that for a minute....

Epic

268 points in 5 games 

 

[bhzmafia14]

Chris Mihm and Aaron Mckie, they put him out there with Chris Mihm and Aaron Mckie. :x


Bean still got them to 45 wins in the West.

And almost beat Phoenix in the 1st round

 

[awwsome]

I remember picking that issue up on my way to school.


13 GAMES.
551 POINTS.

Just think about that for a minute....

Epic

Sheed in the back like "damn, ball really doesn't lie".


#kobenumbers

#yourewelcome

 

[sea manup]

 
There's some degree of luck involved in any close game.

not really, it will always come down to ___ could have done something different and the results would change

no reason to ever blame luck for a win or loss

 

[JD617]

It's not about assigning blame, it's just a fact.

 

[flyerthandelta]

I remember picking that issue up on my way to school.


13 GAMES.
551 POINTS.

Just think about that for a minute....

Epic

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