2013-2014 NBA Thread - IND @ WAS and OKC @ LAC on ESPN

[Peep Game]

I want to say Harden has Asthma, so he may never be in the best conditioning. But then again, he's always running up and down the floor so that doesn't help.

He was always gasping for air when he was a freshman.

He isn't in the best shape, but somehow gets infinite energy when they run the fast break

Yeeeah.

All that conserving on defense

 

[awwsome]

Harden be switching from zombie to track star soon as that ball switch possession.

 

[coldcity]

Post Jordan Era goes like this for me:

2000-2002- Shaq
2003-2005- Duncan/Kobe
2006-2008- Kobe
2009-2010- Kobe/Lebron
2011-2013- Lebron
2014- Lebron/KD

Although I'm interested to see some of the criteria people are using.

KD not there yet.

gotta win a title

Nash has 2 MVP's, b.

that he stole from kobe without a mask

also @ the shade thrown like getting awards is picking free samples

 

[MVP]

KD not there yet.

gotta win a title

Nash has 2 MVP's, b.

Titles are team achievements, that's why I was interested to see what people are using (stats, MVPs, Finals MVPs, titles) cause if some are being used in one players case and not in others, it's a little hypocritical no? KD is the MVP this year and has been 2nd the past 3 seasons. I think he's on the cusp, just gotta finish.

 

[dman14]

Post Jordan Era goes like this for me:

2000-2002- Shaq
2003-2005- Duncan/Kobe
2006-2008- Kobe
2009-2010- Kobe/Lebron
2011-2013- Lebron
2014- Lebron/KD

Although I'm interested to see some of the criteria people are using.

KD not there yet.

gotta win a title

Nash has 2 MVP's, b.

i like nash but one of the mvp was kb and other was duncan
duncan in the early 00's as well. just shaq was so dominant. heck, kidd was doing his thing too
got to put dirk/wade in there from 06-08?

 

[antidope]

 

 

LeBron has been the best player on the planet since the 2007-2008 season IMO

And 2000-2002 Shaquielle O'Neal would also beg to differ

 

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2003 Tracy McGrady would also have something to say

no mention of timmy.. where is @Antidope  

Cant even be mad. Its expected nowadays. KG was always better than Duncan and blah blah blah

 

[cashbanks]

I'll own up to it and say as a youngster i was convinced KG was waaaay better and the older I've gotten and my understanding of the game has grown Duncans clearly the better player and honestly might be ahead of Kobe in terms of all time greats

 

[dman14]

NT wouldve crashed for weeks if we got that kb vs lbj matchup that one yr (wanna say 08?) but the magic went to the finals
one still holding on to his prime yrs and other just reaching it.

 

[awwsome]

Wade was the best player in the NBA in the 08-09 season.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I've said this before, there is no Kobe era, or KG, Or Duncan.



After Shaq no player was really the undisputed best player untill lebron reached his prime.


There were always 2 or 3 guys a year you could make an argument about but to say that an individual dominated any amout of time after shaq's decline is revisionist.

 

[90sera]

I'll own up to it and say as a youngster i was convinced KG was waaaay better and the older I've gotten and my understanding of the game has grown Duncans clearly the better player and honestly might be ahead of Kobe in terms of all time greats

Duncan's the best PF of all time but I'd give Kobe the edge between the two. Bean has 1 more title and 1 more Finals appearance. If not for that I'd say Duncan.

 

[MVP]

NT wouldve crashed for weeks if we got that kb vs lbj matchup that one yr (wanna say 08?) but the magic went to the finals
one still holding on to his prime yrs and other just reaching it.

2009 and 2010. Cavs had the best record and the league MVP that season. The puppet commercials were classic.

 

[awwsome]

It's mostly Laker fans that say Kobe had an era.

 

[cashbanks]

I've said this before, there is no Kobe era, or KG, Or Duncan.



After Shaq no player was really the undisputed best player untill lebron reached his prime.


There were always 2 or 3 guys a year you could make an argument about but to say that an individual dominated any amout of time after shaq's decline is revisionist.

I can rock with this

 

[antidope]

I'll own up to it and say as a youngster i was convinced KG was waaaay better and the older I've gotten and my understanding of the game has grown Duncans clearly the better player and honestly might be ahead of Kobe in terms of all time greats

 

[JD617]

if you're not going to put in any effort to talk about the actual topic then dont bother with your pointless responses

I was talking about the topic, in fact we went back and forth on it 2 nights ago and everything was civil. You're the one who decided to take it in another direction last night with this:

Originally Posted by sea manup  

if you dont understand this concept just let me know, i would be happy to help you out

You're the one who decided to take the condescending d-bag route, and then cried about a "personal attack" when I threw the condescension back at you.

Originally Posted by sea manup  
trolls like you are whats wrong with this thread 

 

 

 

I'm what's wrong with the thread, huh? Buddy, it takes 2 hands to count the number of people who've recently had to point out how awful you are. Take a hint.

 

[akajae]

NT wouldve crashed for weeks if we got that kb vs lbj matchup that one yr (wanna say 08?) but the magic went to the finals
one still holding on to his prime yrs and other just reaching it.

the puppet years

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Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

 

[yeezusdisciple]

It's mostly Laker fans that say Kobe had an era.

And god

 

[$tacy]

Post Jordan Era goes like this for me:

2000-2002- Shaq
2003-2005- Duncan/Kobe
2006-2008- Kobe
2009-2010- Kobe/Lebron
2011-2013- Lebron
2014- Lebron/KD

Although I'm interested to see some of the criteria people are using.

Truuuuu

 

[bhzmafia14]

Some Laker fans would still say Kobe is the best player in the game today

 

[CP1708]

Some Laker fans would still say Kobe is the best player in the game today

You rang?






Just kidding folks.

 

[akajae]

It's mostly Laker fans that say Kobe had an era.

And god

Some Laker fans would still say Kobe is the best player in the game today

 

[sea manup]

 

if you're not going to put in any effort to talk about the actual topic then dont bother with your pointless responses

I was talking about the topic, in fact we went back and forth on it 2 nights ago and everything was civil. You're the one who decided to take it in another direction last night with this:

Originally Posted by sea manup  

if you dont understand this concept just let me know, i would be happy to help you out

You're the one who decided to take the condescending d-bag route, and then cried about a "personal attack" when I threw the condescension back at you.

Originally Posted by sea manup  
trolls like you are whats wrong with this thread 

 

 

 

I'm what's wrong with the thread, huh? Buddy, it takes 2 hands to count the number of people who've recently had to point out how awful you are. Take a hint.

you are clearly upset for some reason

again, if you want to talk basketball then talk basketball when replying to me

if you're just going to show the world how butthurt you are then dont bother replying to a day old comment 

you were even able to control yourself from replying last night (you posted 2 posts later), not sure why you finally snapped and typed up this garbage reply in an attempt to derail the thread

its the internet dude, chill out and stop getting emotional over words on a computer screen

 

[sea manup]

Some Laker fans would still say Kobe is the best player in the game today

kobe would dominate the league if he got to play in this soft era of basketball

 

[osh kosh bosh]

also I have no idea why people think the Steve Nash MVP's seem so incongruous with the history of the award.


1. The MVP goes to the best offensive player on the planet 90% of the time.
2. You have to win 50 games,m preferably top 2 seed.


as we've seen time and time again nobody cares about defense when it comes to MVP's.