THEE OFFICIAL 2019-2020 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD: VICTORY LAP

[buc em]

I can’t wait for people to realize Zion is the same damn size as he was last year at Duke when he was the most physically dominant college basketball player I’ve ever seen and lived up to all the hype he had coming in.

 

[amitt5504]

how much of the NBA's growth through Stern's tenure can just be attributed to the internet becoming what it is?

Some but not a lot. Things like the Dream Team imo helped more than anything. Allowed the NBA to expand to overseas markets which led to more international players coming over, basketball without borders etc

 

[geno90221]

I can’t wait for people to realize Zion is the same damn size as he was last year at Duke when he was the most physically dominant college basketball player I’ve ever seen and lived up to all the hype he had coming in.

He’s not tho

 

[aepps20]

Cutting it close to Jan 10

Very proud of Zion. Slow and steady wins the race. I hope he is in the starting lineup for the 10th but I won't be mad if he doesn't.

 

[lawdog1]

how much of the NBA's growth through Stern's tenure can just be attributed to the internet becoming what it is?

Not that much. The Internet and Social Media only started to get real big toward the end of his tenure.

The things that he should get the most credit for is really putting the focus for marketing purposes on the league stars and pushing for the NBA to be popular worldwide and not just in the US. Those were initiatives he started way before the Internet was a thing. Yes, he had the good fortune of being Commissioner when Magic, Bird and Jordan were all in their primes, but was smart enough to recognize how valuable their star power was.

 

[lovehateself]

I can’t wait for people to realize Zion is the same damn size as he was last year at Duke when he was the most physically dominant college basketball player I’ve ever seen and lived up to all the hype he had coming in.

you do realize that since then, he has had knee surgery and is learning how to walk again

 

[Maximus Meridius]

I think the dress code benefited the NBA. Was it wrong on ethics? Yeah probably. But it was a smart marketing move. And Stern’s legacy #1 is he was a marketing genius.

Open argument if you think Stern was on the player’s side trying to help them get $$ marketing to white America or you think he personally represented that part of America.

Dress code led to guys like Wade and Lebron getting personal stylists, which helped lead to NBA dominance of Instagram culture, which is fueling the league right now against all other sports. Love it or hate it...

But that's not why he put the dress code in. He put it in after the the Detroit situation. It was a reaction to the NBA being called a "thug league". It wasn't to get the players marketing money.

Fashion amongst young black men period was changing around 04-05. Button up shirts was becoming a trend, looking "grown up" was becoming a thing. Then dudes started wearing fitted clothes around 06-07. Dudes was switching their style regardless.

 

[buc em]

you do realize that since then, he has had knee surgery and is learning how to walk again

He’s not “learning how to walk again”........

They’re just working with him on changing his running and walking form to avoid injury in the future. This is not an uncommon thing.

 

[703 hwy]

What's the owners' consensus on Silver? Jw since he's soft as hell when it comes to players and they basically do whatever the hell they want.

 

[100027]

But that's not why he put the dress code in. He put it in after the the Detroit situation. It was a reaction to the NBA being called a "thug league".

That’s still marketing though.

 

[pmatic]

What's the owners' consensus on Silver? Jw since he's soft as hell when it comes to players and they basically do whatever the hell they want.

Don't envy him being the bridge between today's outspoken, visible players and these new billionaire owners.

 

[HIM]

Thread title got me feeling older than lawdog1 400 degreez one of the GOAT albums idc

 

[Maximus Meridius]

That’s still marketing though.

It is but if it was strictly about him being a marketing genius he woulda put into place before that. Without the Malice we probably never woulda got a dress code. That gave the media and certain fans the excuse to say things they've been holding in about a majority black league.

 

[dacomeup]

Dress code led to guys like Wade and Lebron getting personal stylists, which helped lead to NBA dominance of Instagram culture, which is fueling the league right now against all other sports. Love it or hate it...

Not really. Fashion in general just shifted within hip hop and black culture. Stern can’t be credited with that. It was a natural change of the times, and that same dress code is virtually nonexistent today.

 

[100027]

Not really. Fashion in general just shifted within hip hop and black culture. Stern can’t be credited with that. It was a natural change of the times, and that same dress code is virtually nonexistent today.

I think the NBA influenced that general culture change. Not caused but influenced.

 

[Cashflow]

I think the NBA influenced that general culture change. Not caused but influenced.

You’re drunk

 

[100027]

You’re drunk

You don’t think that guys like Wade and Lebron were influential stylistically in the mid 00’s?

 

[Moheezy]

Hmm...

 

[Maximus Meridius]

I think the NBA influenced that general culture change. Not caused but influenced.

It was changing in black culture period so the NBA being a black league is naturally gonna be part of that change. The same way how AI was a reflection of a lot of young black men in the late 90's - early 00's, NBA players are that now.

 

[getback]

You don’t think that guys like Wade and Lebron were influential stylistically in the mid 00’s?

They definitely were. But they also had external influences.

 

[dacomeup]

I think the NBA influenced that general culture change. Not caused but influenced.

Ehh, I really don’t agree with that. Especially pre-social media. Hip-hop was largely more influential than what DWade and LeBron were wearing. It always has been. The social media era has changed things a bit because the players are way more accessible and visible year round than before with IG.

 

[headdetective]

I'll give the players more credit than I will Stern.

Cats like Mike, AI, Bron, etc have made the league what it is today.

 

[703 hwy]

I thought Kanye influenced the change? or was it Dipset

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

I don’t know if stern deserves all this credit regarding the dress code. So now we’re saying stern influenced hip hop fashion on a grand scale?

 

[100027]

They definitely were. But they also had external influences.

Ehh, I really don’t agree with that. Especially pre-social media. Hip-hop was largely more influential than what DWade and LeBron were wearing. It always has been. The social media era has changed things a bit because the players are way more accessible and visible year round than before with IG.

Absolutely. I’m not saying they invented that style or anything close. Just that they were evangelists of it to a lot of people especially the types that follow athletes.