The Speech That Cost JFK His Life...(exposing the secret societies)

[deenyce]

Originally Posted by The Yes Guy

The other thread had this exact video in it, along with a page or two of discussion. Sounds pretty similar to me. But don't mind me. I'm just a fool, speaking to be heard. Maybe you'd care to throw out the term "sheep" as well?

Doesn't matter how many times its posted, and how many threads you saw it in..
The fact of the matter is, it bothers you tremendously.... and I'm not going to call you a "sheep" to fuel the fire.

I'd be bothered too if I didn't quite understand what was going on. Open ya eyes.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

I absolutely hate how you conspiracy theorists respond to someone who isn't fond of your viewpoints with, "open your eyes."

 

[sneakersruinedme]

good speech... great president...

 

[daytona 5000]

Originally Posted by iBlink

I mean, there's always some conspiracy that I'm hearing about. Some of the things make sense and all, but at the same time I want to believe that the government isn't as corrupt as some make it out to be.

They are man. The whole system is corrupt. It's good that you're optimistic but %%** is all bad, not saying that everyone is corrupt, butI believe the corrupt are the majority.

And you ARE a sheep if you can't see that the federal reserve system is a scam. Plain and simple.

 

[infamous199]

yea government is corrupt but its is so for the good of the country if we put too much power into the peoples hands this wouldnt be the america that we know.

 

[deenyce]

Originally Posted by JohnnyRedStorm

I absolutely hate how you conspiracy theorists respond to someone who isn't fond of your viewpoints with, "open your eyes."

the facts are there for you to acknowledge, yet you attack me for giving you insight. Ignorance is bliss fam, ignorance is bliss.

 

[breakinyourankles]

Originally Posted by iBlink

Originally Posted by LAzianBoi

^ they making a movie about you.. and it sucks,

Says the guy asking for advice with Viagra?

You're done fam'.

Got em

 

[roman736]

OMG STOP BELIEVING IN CONSPIRACIES. THEY ARE NOT TRUE. NO CONSPIRACIES ARE EVER REVEALED BECAUSE THEY DO NOT EXIST, BUT DUMB PEOPLE LIKE YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUTTHEM, PREVENTING THESE THEORIES FROM ENDING.

 

[deenyce]

Originally Posted by roman736

OMG STOP BELIEVING IN CONSPIRACIES. THEY ARE NOT TRUE. NO CONSPIRACIES ARE EVER REVEALED BECAUSE THEY DO NOT EXIST, BUT DUMB PEOPLE LIKE YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT THEM, PREVENTING THESE THEORIES FROM ENDING.

explain to me what the federal reserve is first, than come back.

 

[roman736]

conspiracy theorists tend to have a cartoon view of the world, one in which all people fall into one of three groups: the conspirators, the crusaders, and thedupes. The conspirators are portrayed as evil and powerful, seeking control for its own sake. They are often granted unimaginable cleverness and resources, andtheir reach knows no bounds. At the same time, they are ascribed unbelievable stupidity-for how else could their conspiracy be uncovered? The crusaders are thebelievers themselves. They feel they are a small band of freedom-fighters saving the world from incredible malfeasance. The dupes are everyone else.





But grand conspiracies (and that's what we're talking about here) require the cooperation of countless people over long periods of time and across manyinstitutions. This is the first major logical fault with grand conspiracy theories: They tend to collapse under their own weight. The problem is explaining howthe conspirators are able to maintain secrecy and control. If the U.S. were hiding UFOs and aliens over decades, the number of people that would need to beinvolved is huge. How do they keep them all silent? How do they get the funding and the space to run such an operation? Have all the presidentialadministrations since Roswell been involved? How do they prevent leaks-say, the kinds of leaks that recently outed the government's domestic spyingprogram? Wouldn't other governments have discovered the presence of aliens? Are they too involved? In order to answer these questions, more and more powerand scope must be ceded to the conspirators, until you have to believe that they run the world.





Second, conspiracy theorists tend to believe that everything happens for a reason - a logical fallacy known as the argument from final consequences. Forexample, Bush's power and popularity benefited from 9/11, therefore he must have perpetrated 9/11. The assassination of JFK had enormous consequences;therefore it could not have been the insane act of a lone nut. It must have had an equally enormous cause - a conspiracy. The more elegant view is that wesimply live in a wacky world and sometimes stuff happens.





Conspiracy theorists also make much was what we don't know. If the quirky details of a complex historical event cannot be explained and documented to anarbitrarily high degree, then there must be a reason for our ignorance. The dark hand of a conspiracy must be at work in the shadows. Again, Occam would remindus that complexity naturally leads to inexplicable chaos without the need for a purposeful conspiracy.





The final, and most insidious, problem with conspiracy theories is that they quickly become a closed belief system. Why is there no evidence for a conspiracy?Because the conspirators have hidden all the evidence. Why is there evidence that the conspiracy is wrong? Because the conspirators fabricated and planted thatevidence. How could they have done that? Because they have frightening power and reach (which brings us back to the first problem). Therefore, there is noamount or type of evidence that can convince a conspiracy theorist that he's wrong, which means that his (or her) beliefs are comfortably unhinged fromreality.





The alternative, alas, is to live in reality. Reality can be frightening and confusing, with questions that are difficult to answer and problems that are hardto solve. But in the real world, at least there are no all-powerful cabals, controlling us from behind the scenes.

 

[deenyce]

^ok now in your own words, instead of PLAGIARIZING...but you still didn't answer my question.

 

[roman736]

Just wikipedia it...

 

[nycknicks105]

at some of the stuff being said in this thread. You guys have NO idea about anything.

 

[chatta718]

^Illuminati on my mind soul and my body secret society tryin to keep they eye on me....

 

[deenyce]

Originally Posted by DeeNyce

Originally Posted by roman736

OMG STOP BELIEVING IN CONSPIRACIES. THEY ARE NOT TRUE. NO CONSPIRACIES ARE EVER REVEALED BECAUSE THEY DO NOT EXIST, BUT DUMB PEOPLE LIKE YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT THEM, PREVENTING THESE THEORIES FROM ENDING.

explain to me what the federal reserve is first, than come back.

Originally Posted by roman736

conspiracy theorists tend to have a cartoon view of the world, one in which all people fall into one of three groups: the conspirators, the crusaders, and the dupes. The conspirators are portrayed as evil and powerful, seeking control for its own sake. They are often granted unimaginable cleverness and resources, and their reach knows no bounds. At the same time, they are ascribed unbelievable stupidity-for how else could their conspiracy be uncovered? The crusaders are the believers themselves. They feel they are a small band of freedom-fighters saving the world from incredible malfeasance. The dupes are ......"

Originally Posted by DeeNyce

^ok now in your own words, instead of PLAGIARIZING ...but you still didn't answer my question.

Originally Posted by roman736

Just wikipedia it...

ignorance is bliss fam, ignorance is bliss. open ya eyes.

 

[roman736]

Originally Posted by DeeNyce

Originally Posted by DeeNyce

Originally Posted by roman736

OMG STOP BELIEVING IN CONSPIRACIES. THEY ARE NOT TRUE. NO CONSPIRACIES ARE EVER REVEALED BECAUSE THEY DO NOT EXIST, BUT DUMB PEOPLE LIKE YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT THEM, PREVENTING THESE THEORIES FROM ENDING.

explain to me what the federal reserve is first, than come back.

Originally Posted by roman736

conspiracy theorists tend to have a cartoon view of the world, one in which all people fall into one of three groups: the conspirators, the crusaders, and the dupes. The conspirators are portrayed as evil and powerful, seeking control for its own sake. They are often granted unimaginable cleverness and resources, and their reach knows no bounds. At the same time, they are ascribed unbelievable stupidity-for how else could their conspiracy be uncovered? The crusaders are the believers themselves. They feel they are a small band of freedom-fighters saving the world from incredible malfeasance. The dupes are ......"

Originally Posted by DeeNyce

^ok now in your own words, instead of PLAGIARIZING ...but you still didn't answer my question.

Originally Posted by roman736

Just wikipedia it...

ignorance is bliss fam, ignorance is bliss. open ya eyes.

I never CLAIMED those to be my own words. It is the truth and I have quoted those words in a recent post but the whole article is too long for people to wannaread on here. What's the difference who said them?

 

[kayway8]

roman736,

You come into every thread with nothing. There's so many flaws in your logic.

If the U.S. were hiding UFOs and aliens over decades, the number of people that would need to be involved is huge.
The government isn't huge?

How do they keep them all silent?
Fear? Threats?

How do they get the funding and the space to run such an operation?


Seriously? That's a question you have?

How do they prevent leaks-say, the kinds of leaks that recently outed the government's domestic spying program?
They control the media. If something happened on the other side of the country how would we know? Mass media is THAT powerful.

Wouldn't other governments have discovered the presence of aliens?
UK just released over 1,000+ pages of their UFO files recently.

Basically if you don't agree with it then leave it alone. Nobody is forcing you to come into the threads. You continue to live in pleasantville why therest of us try to look for answers.

 

[fede dpt]

Originally Posted by DeeNyce

Here he is, one of our nation's greatest heroes, speaking up on the secret societies and their schemes. Sadly enough, this speech was what ultimately led to his assassination.

Yeah right...

JFK almost got this country blown to all hell.

He let his corrupt doings get in he middle of him and his decision making for the better of the United States, that's why he's dead.

 

[roman736]

Originally Posted by Kayway8

roman736,

You come into every thread with nothing. There's so many flaws in your logic.

If the U.S. were hiding UFOs and aliens over decades, the number of people that would need to be involved is huge.

The government isn't huge?

How do they keep them all silent?
Fear? Threats?

How do they get the funding and the space to run such an operation?


Seriously? That's a question you have?

How do they prevent leaks-say, the kinds of leaks that recently outed the government's domestic spying program?
They control the media. If something happened on the other side of the country how would we know? Mass media is THAT powerful.

Wouldn't other governments have discovered the presence of aliens?
UK just released over 1,000+ pages of their UFO files recently.

Basically if you don't agree with it then leave it alone. Nobody is forcing you to come into the threads. You continue to live in pleasantville why the rest of us try to look for answers.


Those ideas are completely unrealistic. As for the UK UFO files, they showed no compelling evidence of aliens at all. UFO means anything unidentifiedin the air, and those files consisted of unidentified HUMAN made aircrafts, not flying saucers.

 

[nothingbefore]

UFO"S >>>>>>>>>>

 

[DownByLaw]

Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000

R.I.P to JFK, I wonder if it was his conscience that made him get ready to expose what was going on.
Sadly I think the message that they sent was pretty clear and no president will ever have the balls to do what JFK did.


Also, don't forget about Executive Order 11110
The power to issue currency shouldn't be in the hands of foreign international bankers, who loan us money at interest in order to keep us slaves to debt.
That power to issue OUR currency belongs to US the people, as stated in the United States Constitution.

A lot of people don't realize what JFK truly stood for. This man wanted to change everything as we know it and truly make America a betterplace. DAYTONA 500 pointed out something that your average American is unaware of. JFK also had an executive order to pull all of our troops out of Vietnam, ifthis would have happened there would have never been a Vietnam War. Though he was no saint (adultry), he stood for a positive movement in this country. When hewas murdered people didn't focus on the bigger picture, this country and world for that matter is in the hands and control of evil men.

 

[kayway8]

^Do you read or just type the first thing that comes to your mind? That's a serious question too. Because it really seems like you lack a grip on reality.

 

[mrmundaynite]

Bookmarked

 

[DownByLaw]

Originally Posted by Kayway8

^Do you read or just type the first thing that comes to your mind? That's a serious question too. Because it really seems like you lack a grip on reality.

Was that directed at me or NothingBefore?

 

[xalexshanex]

Originally Posted by DeeNyce

Originally Posted by DeeNyce

Originally Posted by roman736

OMG STOP BELIEVING IN CONSPIRACIES. THEY ARE NOT TRUE. NO CONSPIRACIES ARE EVER REVEALED BECAUSE THEY DO NOT EXIST, BUT DUMB PEOPLE LIKE YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT THEM, PREVENTING THESE THEORIES FROM ENDING.

explain to me what the federal reserve is first, than come back.

Originally Posted by roman736

conspiracy theorists tend to have a cartoon view of the world, one in which all people fall into one of three groups: the conspirators, the crusaders, and the dupes. The conspirators are portrayed as evil and powerful, seeking control for its own sake. They are often granted unimaginable cleverness and resources, and their reach knows no bounds. At the same time, they are ascribed unbelievable stupidity-for how else could their conspiracy be uncovered? The crusaders are the believers themselves. They feel they are a small band of freedom-fighters saving the world from incredible malfeasance. The dupes are ......"

Originally Posted by DeeNyce

^ok now in your own words, instead of PLAGIARIZING ...but you still didn't answer my question.

Originally Posted by roman736

Just wikipedia it...

ignorance is bliss fam, ignorance is bliss. open ya eyes.

As much as I think there is something fishy as well:

A) You aren't saying anything new either.

B) If he needs to open his eyes then you need to start moving your feet. What is the point of being so passionate about something, but only posting youtubevideos and giving people canned responses to make them mad? Are you trying to start a movement on an internet message board?

C) You are, in fact, incredibly annoying.

If I agree with any conspiracy theory, however, it is this one. There definitely was and still is some weird stuff going on with it.