The MMA Thread: DON'T ASK 4 STREAMS & NO GIFS- Cannonier, Imavov, Reyes, Rosas on NOW

[Vincent Van Goat]

Looks like JJ outstruck Rose in every round, interesting. JJ has legit case to win it seems

Looks like Rose landed more to head while JJ to the leg, face obviously more telling to judges

http://www.fightmetric.com/fight-details/829b3ee4145a1ae6

 

[Cashflow]

It definitely didn’t look that way during the fighrt. Joanna Challenger was striking air.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

It definitely didn’t look that way during the fighrt. Joanna Challenger was striking air.

Reminds me of the TJ vs Dom fight, TJ was swinging at air but he was still landing. All y'all (maybe not you) were so stuck on that fact that that y'all refused to acknowledge it was actually a razor close fight. Takedowns def gave Dom the advantage

http://www.fightmetric.com/fight-details/c4938baf92d2dc31

I know Rose's head movement was on point last night but her legs were def taking hits. Judges will probably always put more value in face damage than leg damage unless it's like an Aldo vs Faber type mauling

 

[keko jones]

Looks like JJ outstruck Rose in every round, interesting. JJ has legit case to win it seems

Looks like Rose landed more to head while JJ to the leg, face obviously more telling to judges

http://www.fightmetric.com/fight-details/829b3ee4145a1ae6

I said that JJ punished the leg, but besides that wth did she do?

I looked at the fight again and I saw the same exact thing as the first. Rose just dominating!

JJ missed a lot with her punches while Rise was punishing the upper area. Plus some of does punches looked like it staggered JJ.

Either way, you can't call yourself a diva or whatever she said if you lost twice to the Champ. Regardless!

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

I said that JJ punished the leg, but besides that wth did she do?

I looked at the fight again and I saw the same exact thing as the first. Rose just dominating!

JJ missed a lot with her punches while Rise was punishing the upper area. Plus some of does punches looked like it staggered JJ.

Either way, you can't call yourself a diva or whatever she said if you lost twice to the Champ. Regardless!

Yeah the eye test to me for sure says Rose won, she did stagger JJ a few times

Significant strikes includes leg strikes so that's what it was

Just depends how anyone scores leg kicks

 

[keko jones]

BTW, I just saw the clip UFC had about the incident , that **** was ******* stage man.

I saw Micheals cut, he couldn't fight because of it? FoH.

Borg looked fine, but I can't say, eye injuries are a *****.

I was OD mad that they treating world class athletes and fighters like they are being victimized and are scared for their life. **** looked so ******* safe. Extra security and escorting them etc.

It like makes me lose respect for them ...

 

[degenerate423]

Ummmm, Russia has a long history of outright savagery... I wouldn’t take that fight if I was Conor... It is bound to have something pop off

Putin can control his people when he wants to. Besides, it would probably be in Moscow where a decent amount of their wealth is not some random blue collar city.

 

[keko jones]

Yeah the eye test to me for sure says Rose won, she did stagger JJ a few times

Significant strikes includes leg strikes so that's what it was

Just depends how anyone scores leg kicks

The way I look at those leg strikes, if they are doing significant damage to the point to neutralize the opponent, then yes, they are worth scoring. But when all JJ all was doing was leg strikes and Rose was not fazed and actually getting the best of the exchanges then is just an after thought.

That's another reason why it was a clear victory. Although JJ did score 50+ more stoked it was mostly down low. Meaning about avg of 10 more a round which are mostly leg kicks.

Example Rose landed 33 sig shots to the upper area and JJ landed 42 mostly to the lower leg area. What are you seeing?

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

The way I look at those leg strikes, if they are doing significant damage to the point to neutralize the opponent, then yes, they are worth scoring. But when all JJ all was doing was leg strikes and Rose was not fazed and actually getting the best of the exchanges then is just an after thought.

That's another reason why it was a clear victory. Although JJ did score 50+ more stoked it was mostly down low. Meaning about avg of 10 more a round which are mostly leg kicks.

Example Rose landed 33 sig shots to the upper area and JJ landed 42 mostly to the lower leg area. What are you seeing?

I agree 100%

Look at Rose continuing to move fine and not get knocked down by the leg kicks

JJ asked in the presser "let's see how Rose walks tomorrow"

Dana said Rose was walking around back stage after the fight, while most other fighters would be on a bed or transported

 

[QU!K]

Joanna is a sore loser

She already knew she lost in the octagon which is why she was crying at the end

And I don't care what UFC says. Khabib rocking a fake belt.

 

[thehealthinspector]

fake belt or not, that guy will fight anyone you put in front of him

 

[keko jones]

Joanna is a sore loser

She already knew she lost in the octagon which is why she was crying at the end

And I don't care what UFC says. Khabib rocking a fake belt.

Thats the same **** I been saying about DC. LoL

But hey, it is what it is.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

I was saying, it's a very empty feeling belt, like you beat pre-Cyborg RDA, Johnson, Barboza and Iaquinta and now you're champ? Those guys are all good fighters no doubt, just doesn't seem like he really earned the belt. IT'S NOT HIS FAULT it is what it is

I get it he's undefeated and he'll fight anyone but this was a farce of a "title fight" and it seems like there's 3 champs in the division

Tony a whole jackass for hurting himself and causing this

I don't consider Khabib the Undisputed Champ at all

 

[anderson]

based off of yesterdays performance. conor, tony, and max would give khabib serious trouble.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

If Tony wouldn't be so keen on being on the ground I would give Tony the edge but the fact that he's so wild and has pride in being on the ground that works against him in a matchup with Khabib

Other than that yup I don't think Khabib is at all unbeatable

 

[thehealthinspector]

khabib's title doesnt seem any more fake or real to me than whittaker's

i see them both as official champs

 

[spiderjericho]

Watched the card.

Had Rose winning 3-2. I could see how someone could score it the other way. JJ was peppering her with jabs and tnose leg kicks. Roses head movement and paw were stifling that Pol. Styles make fights. The chick she lost to in the TUF finale would probably beat her again if her wrestling hasn’t improved.

Felt that the criticism Khabib got from Rogan was a little too unfair. I get where he was coming from, especially against Al. I DO want to see Khabib against Lee, Diaz, Ferguson and Alvarez. LW is stacked.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

khabib's title doesnt seem any more fake or real to me than whittaker's

i see them both as official champs

What? Whittaker destroyed Jacare and then beat the man that beat Jacare before he went on another win streak in Yoel

You're wilding

Whittaker would have MURDERED Bisping anyway

Whittaker is the closest thing to undisputed as there can be

Khabib aint no official champ for beating Al ******* Iaquinta

 

[spiderjericho]

I agree. He beat RDA (prior to the PEDs), Barbosa, Johnson and LaQuinta. No one else.

Ferguson beat RDA, Lee, Barboza (lost to Johnson). Nobody else.

Honestly, they had to fight each other. That was the only way legitimize the “title” fight. Connor is the champ. And neither of them went through the former champ, Alvarez.

And they both hopped over Porier, Alvarez, Melendez, Pettis, Diaz, McGregor, Gaethje, etc.

Whitaker is legit. He beat Jacare and Yoel. If he beats Yoel again and puts Weidman frosting on his cake. There can’t be any question.

 

[thehealthinspector]

what does beating yoel have to do with beating gsp or bisping

they both became champs by beating whoever was put in front of them

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Dude there legit is no question about Whittaker's belt

Yoel and Jacare were widely considered two of the best fighters of ANY division

Hell they could still be TODAY

 

[buc em]

Khabib’s belt is garbage

All the talent that he could face in that weight class and dude got his belt fighting a damn part time real estate agent.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

what does beating yoel have to do with beating gsp or bisping

they both became champs by beating whoever was put in front of them

Everything

Yoel is considered one of the best fighters of any division

Whittaker won his belt BEFORE GSP even entered the picture. GSP shouldn't even be in this conversation. You wilding

Your only beef of contention with Whittaker is that he didn't beat Bisping, he beat Yoel instead

 

[thehealthinspector]

just as there shouldnt be with khabib's

people want to take away his status because one guy doesnt want to defend and one guy tripped over some cables

the division needs to move forward but some people still want to make it seem as if this guy who doesnt want to defend is still the "real" champ of 145 and 155

ufc could have put whoever they wanted in front of this guy and they tried

feel free to call his belt "fake" until the ufc puts one of these "real" contenders in front of him, it makes no difference to me

 

[QU!K]

IMO Khabib won't hold the belt long.

Sure he has the advantage in wrestling, but his head movement is not great, and his stand up has holes in it. He will get caught. You can quote me on it.

Tony is ******* idiot, stupid *** sunglasses at night wearing mf