STAY/GET BACK IN SHAPE VOL 3.0 -- A New Niketalk = A New Thread

[tjonpoint]

Watched part of that World's Strongest Man competition earlier. Had me like

while I was doing HIIT.

same here, them dudes are beast.

 

[pyrokasper]

Made lunch for the next two days. Salmon glazed with white wine and garlic, string beans for the veggies. Small salad on the side. Trying to get back on the wagon

 

[baltimoregutta]

Watched part of that World's Strongest Man competition earlier. Had me like :x while I was doing HIIT.

same here, them dudes are beast.

Looked like they weren't doing anything till you realized they were lifting 500+ lbs.

 

[dabottom305]

Article on water retention

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/water.htm

I need to leave the sodium alone.

 

[r-man jam]

Article on water retention

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/water.htm

I need to leave the sodium alone.

Nice article. Thanks. 

 

[ajgoulbo]

Nice article

 

[durden7]

 

Scientific approach? Bro the reason I enjoy this lifestyle is because it's FUN. I don't need to read some scientific article to tell me why I'm doing this and what I should be doing. At the end of the day I try to keep this **** as simple as possible...... eat right, lift, get a good nights sleep then repeat. SIMPLE AS THAT.

I respect your opinions but I think the main reason why people don't achieve their goals is because they make it harder on themselves by over thinking when in reality is quiet simple.

I get what you're saying, but that's like telling a kid to go up to the plate and "just swing the bat".

It'll work for some and the general idea is there, but there's so much more information and knowledge that can be gained and utilized to accomplish the goal/task.

Its "simple" if the cues or ideas are easily understood. If someone doesn't know what eating right means or correct/efficient ways to lift then its impossible to keep it simple. I'm sure there are simple ways to easily understand many topics in life, but if you don't already have the knowledge foundation to understand what you're supposed to do then its useless.


Speaking from only my personal experience dealing with people in this field, I sort of disagree with your reason why people don't achieve their goals. It's not that they over-think everything, it's that people want to skip necessary steps. (In a way I guess we're saying the same thing) Instead of focusing on the mental aspect of an active lifestyle, they focus on the little details that are less important than making it a habit. (supplements, "best" exercises, etc.)

The biggest thing ive learned is that exercise has little to do with physicality. Its ALL about mentality.

 

[dabottom305]

Gonna try a few of those steps in that article. Had no idea posing enhanced definition.

Btw Raisin Bran is an excellent source for fiber. I ate a few serving in one sitting last week. The next day I had 3 bowel movements within 8 hours. Thought it was weird, felt extra regular, lol

 

[sam206]

On what exercises do they hurt the most? I'm guessing curls.

I've got skinny wrists and have the same problem. I bought some cheap Franklin straps from Wal Mart. They helped.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Franklin-Sports-OSFA-Wrist-Wrap-Support-Aegis/17299983

Its mostly curls and shoulders, I got skinny wrist too. Time to start using my straps

 

[41239]

WOW

i finally have full pectoral activation in my bench

i never tried tucking my elbows and no one has ever told me to, i always thought flared elbows was the proper thing and consequently never really felt benching in my full chest, just near the armpit area

but i started playing with different positions with all of my lifts, most of them were already fine, but benching with my elbows tucked is a world of difference, i can actually bench a lot more and even when i go light i feel my whole pectoral muscle at work

probably will start seeing real differences in a couple more weeks, will post before and after

 

[TheGodFresco]

WOW

i finally have full pectoral activation in my bench

i never tried tucking my elbows and no one has ever told me to, i always thought flared elbows was the proper thing and consequently never really felt benching in my full chest, just near the armpit area

but i started playing with different positions with all of my lifts, most of them were already fine, but benching with my elbows tucked is a world of difference, i can actually bench a lot more and even when i go light i feel my whole pectoral muscle at work

probably will start seeing real differences in a couple more weeks, will post before and after

soo...bascially a closer grip? lol

 

[jking0821]

He's very knowledgeable and far from a "troll," but to say boxing isn't an endurance sport? In a way I can see his side as it is more or less about skill, but anyone who has actually boxed knows that endurance is pivotal. I'm sure he wasn't dismissing that.

I can see that a lot of you are missing the point: yes, endurance is useful in boxing (like in all other sports), but it is not primarily an endurance sport. Your goal is not to go 15 rounds in boxing, unlike a marathon. You wouldn't even last 15 rounds if you don't know HOW to box. If you lack strength and skill compared to your opponent, then you will require more endurance. But endurance is not the most important trait and boxing is NOT an endurance sport, this is based on the goals of a boxing match (knock out).

When training, boxers would benefit most from focusing on strength and joint prep. The boxing training itself will take care of specific endurance. If you want to insert supplemental conditioning, use varied, complex movement forms. Running for 45 minutes is not particularly helpful to boxers, it doesn't mimic the conditions in the ring enough. Supplemental conditioning can help, but at the end of the day, in sports, the only activity that is specific is the activity you are training for (boxing in this case).

There is always a component of endurance, even in something like a 100m sprint, but different activities require different kinds of endurance. This doesn't mean that every athlete should be running 5k's or marathons to improve 'endurance'.

I appreciate the post honestly. But have you ever boxed? The goal of boxing is not to knock some one out....the goal is to hit them...and not get hit. That is all. Boxers do not train for a knock out. Maybe some do out there....but most don't. Boxing is one of the most taxing sports on the body there is. Keeping your hand up alone for 12 rounds will tend to build lactic acid in the muscles. So training for endurance is pivotal to all (successful) boxers.

And no offense but when you said this..... i basically stopped reading. You are probably very well educated but there are boxing trainers who's life work it is to train fighters.

The reason boxers use endurance training methods is because they don't know any better.

They have teams of trainers on their side to prepare them for fights. Whether its sparing with heavier gloves for 5 min rounds in stead of 3mins...or the early morning 5-10 mile run they all train some sort of endurance.

 

[bigboss]

I get what you're saying, but that's like telling a kid to go up to the plate and "just swing the bat".

It'll work for some and the general idea is there, but there's so much more information and knowledge that can be gained and utilized to accomplish the goal/task.

Its "simple" if the cues or ideas are easily understood. If someone doesn't know what eating right means or correct/efficient ways to lift then its impossible to keep it simple. I'm sure there are simple ways to easily understand many topics in life, but if you don't already have the knowledge foundation to understand what you're supposed to do then its useless.


Speaking from only my personal experience dealing with people in this field, I sort of disagree with your reason why people don't achieve their goals. It's not that they over-think everything, it's that people want to skip necessary steps. (In a way I guess we're saying the same thing) Instead of focusing on the mental aspect of an active lifestyle, they focus on the little details that are less important than making it a habit. (supplements, "best" exercises, etc.)

The biggest thing ive learned is that exercise has little to do with physicality. Its ALL about mentality.

I respect what you and nealraj are saying because you both are very educated when it comes to this lifestyle. I am just speaking in terms of your average joe who goes to the gym with the hopes of looking better with his shirt off.

I agree with you about guys worrying about less important things, esp when it comes to supplements. There are many dudes, even some in here, who fall to the hype of thinking you got to get a stack at your local GNC to be able to attain the physique they desire when in actuality that is not the case.

You are right about it being mental when it comes to this lifestyle, only the strong survive. 

 

[jking0821]

This kind of stuff is why i love this thread....generally good knowledge sharing and learning can occur.

Back at it today....i wish i could get legs in today but still banged up from soccer don't want to hurt myself more being an idiot. So back/bi's today...shoulders/traps tomorrow

 

[picasso swerve]

soo...bascially a closer grip? lol

Nah, tucking elbows meaning having whatever grip you use then trying to "turn" your elbows in and tuck them near your body. You obviously wont get far, but that little tuck makes a big difference.

 

[JCMojica24]

Finally passed the 90lb threshold! Only 8 1/2lbs to go!

 

[jthagreat]

WOW

i finally have full pectoral activation in my bench

i never tried tucking my elbows and no one has ever told me to, i always thought flared elbows was the proper thing and consequently never really felt benching in my full chest, just near the armpit area

but i started playing with different positions with all of my lifts, most of them were already fine, but benching with my elbows tucked is a world of difference, i can actually bench a lot more and even when i go light i feel my whole pectoral muscle at work

probably will start seeing real differences in a couple more weeks, will post before and after

I have been 'tinkering' with this elbow tucked in stuff....not sure how i feel just yet.

always hurts when my elbows tucked in...yet the flared out does do the "just near the armpit area"

my bench is no whre near where it should be for someone my size....hmm

i may have to just get comfortable with a new grip.

 

[sneakerfan1]

Try getting the hang of it with just the bar. Work from there.

 

[freeze]

He's very knowledgeable and far from a "troll," but to say boxing isn't an endurance sport? In a way I can see his side as it is more or less about skill, but anyone who has actually boxed knows that endurance is pivotal. I'm sure he wasn't dismissing that.

I can see that a lot of you are missing the point: yes, endurance is useful in boxing (like in all other sports), but it is not primarily an endurance sport. Your goal is not to go 15 rounds in boxing, unlike a marathon. You wouldn't even last 15 rounds if you don't know HOW to box. If you lack strength and skill compared to your opponent, then you will require more endurance. But endurance is not the most important trait and boxing is NOT an endurance sport, this is based on the goals of a boxing match (knock out).

When training, boxers would benefit most from focusing on strength and joint prep. The boxing training itself will take care of specific endurance. If you want to insert supplemental conditioning, use varied, complex movement forms. Running for 45 minutes is not particularly helpful to boxers, it doesn't mimic the conditions in the ring enough. Supplemental conditioning can help, but at the end of the day, in sports, the only activity that is specific is the activity you are training for (boxing in this case).

There is always a component of endurance, even in something like a 100m sprint, but different activities require different kinds of endurance. This doesn't mean that every athlete should be running 5k's or marathons to improve 'endurance'.

I appreciate the post honestly. But have you ever boxed? The goal of boxing is not to knock some one out....the goal is to hit them...and not get hit. That is all. Boxers do not train for a knock out. Maybe some do out there....but most don't. Boxing is one of the most taxing sports on the body there is. Keeping your hand up alone for 12 rounds will tend to build lactic acid in the muscles. So training for endurance is pivotal to all (successful) boxers.

And no offense but when you said this..... i basically stopped reading. You are probably very well educated but there are boxing trainers who's life work it is to train fighters.

The reason boxers use endurance training methods is because they don't know any better.

They have teams of trainers on their side to prepare them for fights. Whether its sparing with heavier gloves for 5 min rounds in stead of 3mins...or the early morning 5-10 mile run they all train some sort of endurance.

100%.

It's easy to be on the outside looking in and critiquing. That's cake. Most people wouldn't last 3 minutes in the ring off of the advice given, much less 36. Boxing is so physically and mentally taxing, even beyond just the strain we place on ourselves of training and ring work, there's also another guy in that ring trying to put you on the mat before you get to him. There's that tinge of fear that keeps the adrenal glands on full expansion for 36 minutes, you know how draining that is? The majority of the population don't even have the mental fortitude to compete. You can literally die in the ring...of exhaustion. To say that boxer's simply 'don't know any better' is ignorant and pretentious. It implies that you, in turn, know more than folks that have been successful in the field for decades. It's fine if you know a little bit, I'm sure your Bachelors degree is pretty impressive... It's even fine if you have opinions, opinions are good, but do try, when forming said opinions and then engaging them in real world scenarios, do try to be sensible.

The fact that you think one trains for a knockout, clearly shows you have no idea what you're talking bout in terms of the sport. How does one even go about training for a knockout? They don't. KO's are like flashes of lightning. They just happen. All of the numbers add up, all of the stars align, every other possible scenario is stricken from the record when one happens. You train for speed, you train for power, you train for impregnable defense. Knockouts are a luxury, a surprise, happenstance.

 

[celticsfan9783]

These any good or are they trash? Looking for a decent pull up station for a reasonable price.

 

[BranchLifestyle]

These any good or are they trash? Looking for a decent pull up station for a reasonable price.

It all depends on the strength of your door frame.

But the Iron Gym is the truth.

 

[41239]

soo...bascially a closer grip? lol

not at all, i still use the same grip, middle finger on the rivet

my elbows are closer to my body now, but not all the way tucked

 

[maicolkickhead]

It all depends on the strength of your door frame.

But the Iron Gym is the truth.

definitely, bought one a couple of years ago and it has held up fine

 

[jecca650]

Everyone in here should be benching with their elbows slightly tucked in if you want to prevent shoulder injuries. It's the correct way to bench. elbows flared out perpendicular to your body is the first thing I learned NOT to do.

 

[celticsfan9783]

Everyone in here should be benching with their elbows slightly tucked in if you want to prevent shoulder injuries. It's the correct way to bench. elbows flared out perpendicular to your body is the first thing I learned NOT to do.

Tucked in puts more emphasis on your triceps. It's essentially a close grip bench if your elbows are tucked. I try to have my arms at a 45º with my torso. Perpendicular :x