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Gained 20 pounds last 5 months, how I did it the right way
STAY/GET BACK IN SHAPE VOL 3.0 -- A New Niketalk = A New Thread
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dacomeup
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BCAA pills work any better or worse than power? Feel like they were more effective for me when I was using the powder, but it could be that I used them more consistently then.
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they are probably just more convenient. I believe the Powder works faster, and is way cheaper.
rusty shackelford
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Any of yall work with a weighted vest? thinking bout picking one up on my birthday.
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Ok... I wasn't throwin shots haha
I've peeped your weight loss and its impressive. You, lucky, and jc are all putting in work. (There's a few other drastic changes I'm leaving out.... My apologies)
Although my journey is a little different, I've got similar goals. By 2014 I want to be in the 3 plate club in all the major lifts. Already there on deadlift. A lot of work left on the others.
Good luck and wish me the same
Nah bro, no offense taken at all, were all in this together
Yeah man, 3 plates would be wonderful man, ill get there in time. This ain't a game. It also ain't a race ! Definitely though, thanks for the props , its been an interesting journey, but we ain't done yet, safe travels to you as well
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Well once again....the comment was made about boxing....which is almost an endurance sport. When you do all that speed training and cardio you tend to slim out. When the bigger looking guys step into the ring and they are all super muscular....they tend to move slower. Which can have to do with their training regime. This is not always the case....but boxers tend to be slim because of all the endurance training they have to do to make it a full 12 rounds. They don't want the big huge muscles....that will not help them in the ring as much as extremely fast hands. Yes they are muscular...but functionally for their sport.
But either way great post and a lot of good info
Boxing is definitely not an endurance sport , just like basketball or football aren't. It is characterized by bouts of work followed by a period of rest, unlike a true endurance sport (cycling, long distance running).
The reason boxers use endurance training methods is because they don't know any better. It negatively affects their strength and power development and muscle mass. It's traditional for boxers and other martial artists to use "road work" for conditioning, but that doesn't make it the best option. They would be better served by using conditioning methods that had them moving in complex patterns such as locomotion patterns (bear crawls, lizard crawls, etc.) or modified strongman training. These methods are better for the complex environment that martial artists encounter in competition.
Again, speed is a function of strength. Being big does not guarantee that you will be fast, but you can't be faster without being bigger (to an extent). Speed also needs to be trained, but what is the use of training speed if your punches have the force of a mosquito's fart?
There is no such thing as "functional". Boxing relies on a large amount of technique. Yes, the strength and power are important, but still secondary to the actual skill portion. Any increase in strength (in the right areas, regardless of training modality) will help improve your boxing ability. If you can't throw a punch properly, being able to bench press 500 lbs won't do much for you against an opponent.
stopped reading. Smh.
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Jesus Christ @ that True Nutrition site. Wow
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Well once again....the comment was made about boxing....which is almost an endurance sport. When you do all that speed training and cardio you tend to slim out. When the bigger looking guys step into the ring and they are all super muscular....they tend to move slower. Which can have to do with their training regime. This is not always the case....but boxers tend to be slim because of all the endurance training they have to do to make it a full 12 rounds. They don't want the big huge muscles....that will not help them in the ring as much as extremely fast hands. Yes they are muscular...but functionally for their sport.
But either way great post and a lot of good info
Boxing is definitely not an endurance sport , just like basketball or football aren't. It is characterized by bouts of work followed by a period of rest, unlike a true endurance sport (cycling, long distance running).
The reason boxers use endurance training methods is because they don't know any better. It negatively affects their strength and power development and muscle mass. It's traditional for boxers and other martial artists to use "road work" for conditioning, but that doesn't make it the best option. They would be better served by using conditioning methods that had them moving in complex patterns such as locomotion patterns (bear crawls, lizard crawls, etc.) or modified strongman training. These methods are better for the complex environment that martial artists encounter in competition.
Again, speed is a function of strength. Being big does not guarantee that you will be fast, but you can't be faster without being bigger (to an extent). Speed also needs to be trained, but what is the use of training speed if your punches have the force of a mosquito's fart?
There is no such thing as "functional". Boxing relies on a large amount of technique. Yes, the strength and power are important, but still secondary to the actual skill portion. Any increase in strength (in the right areas, regardless of training modality) will help improve your boxing ability. If you can't throw a punch properly, being able to bench press 500 lbs won't do much for you against an opponent.
stopped reading. Smh.
Yeah didn't even bother reading that bs post
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clean bulk + pro-test pills ... thoughts?
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Lately my wrist have been hurting when I workout. Im not in pain, its more like an annoyance. Do you guys think I should use wrists straps? People are telling me the straps will hurt more than they help
bigboss
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Hes a troll, and a idiot.
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On what exercises do they hurt the most? I'm guessing curls.
I've got skinny wrists and have the same problem. I bought some cheap Franklin straps from Wal Mart. They helped.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Franklin-Sports-OSFA-Wrist-Wrap-Support-Aegis/17299983
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....Not sure how you think he's an idiot.
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Well once again....the comment was made about boxing....which is almost an endurance sport. When you do all that speed training and cardio you tend to slim out. When the bigger looking guys step into the ring and they are all super muscular....they tend to move slower. Which can have to do with their training regime. This is not always the case....but boxers tend to be slim because of all the endurance training they have to do to make it a full 12 rounds. They don't want the big huge muscles....that will not help them in the ring as much as extremely fast hands. Yes they are muscular...but functionally for their sport.
But either way great post and a lot of good info
Boxing is definitely not an endurance sport , just like basketball or football aren't. It is characterized by bouts of work followed by a period of rest, unlike a true endurance sport (cycling, long distance running).
The reason boxers use endurance training methods is because they don't know any better. It negatively affects their strength and power development and muscle mass. It's traditional for boxers and other martial artists to use "road work" for conditioning, but that doesn't make it the best option. They would be better served by using conditioning methods that had them moving in complex patterns such as locomotion patterns (bear crawls, lizard crawls, etc.) or modified strongman training. These methods are better for the complex environment that martial artists encounter in competition.
Again, speed is a function of strength. Being big does not guarantee that you will be fast, but you can't be faster without being bigger (to an extent). Speed also needs to be trained, but what is the use of training speed if your punches have the force of a mosquito's fart?
There is no such thing as "functional". Boxing relies on a large amount of technique. Yes, the strength and power are important, but still secondary to the actual skill portion. Any increase in strength (in the right areas, regardless of training modality) will help improve your boxing ability. If you can't throw a punch properly, being able to bench press 500 lbs won't do much for you against an opponent.
stopped reading. Smh.
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nealraj made some good points, i dont why every one is getting at dude.
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He's very knowledgeable and far from a "troll," but to say boxing isn't an endurance sport? In a way I can see his side as it is more or less about skill, but anyone who has actually boxed knows that endurance is pivotal. I'm sure he wasn't dismissing that.
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Made some smoothies today
Cut up 4 bananas, and froze em for a few hours. Added apples, strawberries, 1 cup of milk, and a bit of ice...awww man.
Gym flow in a few hours, I switched how I hit my legs, so I only do squats for legs today. Maybe add box jumps in there.
Cut up 4 bananas, and froze em for a few hours. Added apples, strawberries, 1 cup of milk, and a bit of ice...awww man.
Gym flow in a few hours, I switched how I hit my legs, so I only do squats for legs today. Maybe add box jumps in there.
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If nealraj is an idiot than we must all my complete morons, because it's obvious the guy has a lot more knowledge about fitness and health than most of us.
Do i agree with his boxing theories? No.
But is he stupid? Absolutely not.
Dont get why people are so quick to jump on others in this thread when they dont agree with them.
So much negativity, has made it hard to want to post in here anymore
Do i agree with his boxing theories? No.
But is he stupid? Absolutely not.
Dont get why people are so quick to jump on others in this thread when they dont agree with them.
So much negativity, has made it hard to want to post in here anymore
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I can see that a lot of you are missing the point: yes, endurance is useful in boxing (like in all other sports), but it is not primarily an endurance sport. Your goal is not to go 15 rounds in boxing, unlike a marathon. You wouldn't even last 15 rounds if you don't know HOW to box. If you lack strength and skill compared to your opponent, then you will require more endurance. But endurance is not the most important trait and boxing is NOT an endurance sport, this is based on the goals of a boxing match (knock out).
When training, boxers would benefit most from focusing on strength and joint prep. The boxing training itself will take care of specific endurance. If you want to insert supplemental conditioning, use varied, complex movement forms. Running for 45 minutes is not particularly helpful to boxers, it doesn't mimic the conditions in the ring enough. Supplemental conditioning can help, but at the end of the day, in sports, the only activity that is specific is the activity you are training for (boxing in this case).
There is always a component of endurance, even in something like a 100m sprint, but different activities require different kinds of endurance. This doesn't mean that every athlete should be running 5k's or marathons to improve 'endurance'.
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Lol WHAT? Obviously you've NEVER been in the ring. The reason endurance is important is because of the fatigue that sets in from taking blows to the head and the body. Not to mention the crazy amounts of energy used to throw punches, footwork, slips, bob n weaves etc. The goal of a boxing fight is NOT a knockout but to WIN. Wtf? Why speak on something you obviously have no idea about? The reason boxers aren't big lfiters is because of the oxygen required by those bigger muscles especially at lower weight classes. The higher you go up in weight the heavier hands get which opens up for weight lifting because fights end faster so they can sacrficie a lil endurance.
ps I boxed for 6 years(as well as muay thai). (3rd STREET BOXING SAN FRANCISCO/JKINGS BOXING in Oakland trained under James Lamont Buggs, Paris Alexander, etc./SF Fairtex for muay thai)
ps I boxed for 6 years(as well as muay thai). (3rd STREET BOXING SAN FRANCISCO/JKINGS BOXING in Oakland trained under James Lamont Buggs, Paris Alexander, etc./SF Fairtex for muay thai)
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