STAY/GET BACK IN SHAPE VOL 3.0 -- A New Niketalk = A New Thread

[tdogg2k]

i'm a put my flame suit on when I say this....
But what is Natural anymore??

You taking supplements isn't getting them "naturally" and they are boosting your progression. (whatever our bodies don't make natually, or can't just get from reg food)
not saying im for or against Steroids, I just think that "natural" comment is skewed.

I know you said you don't look down on those people that do.

But im not going to look down on anyone who does it with the illegal stuff, while people are out there spending 300+ at GNC every month to boost their performance as well.

 

[baltimoregutta]

Comparing steroids to whey protein/creatine/etc. Seems legit.

You got it, bro.

 

[byukid]

i'm a put my flame suit on when I say this....
But what is Natural anymore??

You taking supplements isn't getting them "naturally" and they are boosting your progression. (whatever our bodies don't make natually, or can't just get from reg food)
not saying im for or against Steroids, I just think that "natural" comment is skewed.

I know you said you don't look down on those people that do.

But im not going to look down on anyone who does it with the illegal stuff, while people are out there spending 300+ at GNC every month to boost their performance as well.

The difference is no amount of money spent on GNC stuff will push your hormone levels to supraphysiological levels. That really shouldn't be hard to grasp.

 

[bigboss]

i'm a put my flame suit on when I say this....
But what is Natural anymore??

You taking supplements isn't getting them "naturally" and they are boosting your progression. (whatever our bodies don't make natually, or can't just get from reg food)
not saying im for or against Steroids, I just think that "natural" comment is skewed.

I know you said you don't look down on those people that do.

But im not going to look down on anyone who does it with the illegal stuff, while people are out there spending 300+ at GNC every month to boost their performance as well.

Wow. 

You're not going to gain 25lbs of muscle in 2 months naturally, period. 

Just stop posting **** like this, you're going to confuse people and make them think certain things are attainable when they're not in reality. 

 

[SuperJ5]

You can't look at that pic and scream "PEDs". Yea PEDs are being used by some athletes in sports but going off a pic like that you just can't automatically assume.

I've seen summer transformation pics more impressive than that. It's easy to manipulate. Take the first pic prior to any training then go through the program and right before you take the second pic they go through a serious pump workout. And obviously looking at his musculature that dude has impressive genetics to begin with so yiur average lifter won't have the same progress as him. Dude could've gained 8 pounds of muscle and the rest fat and it'll look different on him than most people gaining fat.

 

[tdogg2k]

Comparing steroids to whey protein/creatine/etc. Seems legit.

You got it, bro.

Yea because I was talking about Protein..............
Again if you know nothing of steroids or what they do, how they work, what it does for your body. Then go do research

Then go see what Gnc or bb.com products that people buy who are "natural" .

Wow. 

You're not going to gain 25lbs of muscle in 2 months naturally, period. 


Just stop posting **** like this, you're going to confuse people and make them think certain things are attainable when they're not in reality. 

Geezus

You guys stay misconstruing my words so you can have something to throw salt on.

Where did I post he gained 25lbs of muscle??. Even with Steroid help that it's impossible for that to be 25lbs of muscle.. He holds weight well on top of already having a good foundation.. (he HASNT GAINED 25LBS OF MUSCLE ............wonder if caps will have my words misconstrued again.) I already said it was impossible
People hold weight differently.
If I gained 25lbs i would look no where near that. but that doesnt change that I gained it in that amount of time.

Big Boss no beef to you homie but damn you like to argue don't you???

 

[al audi]

Lol

 

[baltimoregutta]

I never knew GNC products would allow you to go past your genetic limits. I learn something new every day then.

 

[tdogg2k]

I never knew GNC products would allow you to go past your genetic limits. I learn something new every day then.

Research.

(all im going to type in response to you)

I lie.............

Go Paleo and see these "natural" pumps, and gains you get.

 

[baltimoregutta]

No matter how many GNC supplements I take, I can't get to 270 lbs, under 10% BF at 5'9" without steroids. I don't need to do research, I have common sense in that regard.

 

[jkitty]

This guy again lol

 

[tdogg2k]

No matter how many GNC supplements I take, I can't get to 270 lbs, under 10% BF at 5'9" without steroids. I don't need to do research, I have common sense in that regard.

Misconstruing the "debate" once again. Fitting in what you want to talk/debate about to make yourself sound better.

This started by saying, What is "natural" and looking down on people who do (what most people consider un-natural) right.

Yet these are the same people spending 200+ at GNC for items that get you results not as good as steroids, but great results. Yet you call that Natural.


I still haven't figured out how it's so incorrect that you can gain 30lbs in 4 months.


Once again I did not say 30lbs muscle (please quote where I did)

 

[Kaleo15]

I guess my Sgt's Wife bought him Focus T25, he hasn't even opened the box yet...

He asked if I wanted it. Should I take it? Anybody uses it? How is it?

 

[baltimoregutta]

GNC products don't push you above what your genetics are naturally of. You just want to debate what it/isn't natural.

Steroids are in a class of their own. Period. I'm done.

 

[tdogg2k]

GNC products don't push you above what your genetics are naturally of. You just want to debate what it/isn't natural.
Steroids are in a class of their own. Period. I'm done.

Good while you're done.
Research




K Kaleo15
Focus T25..........

I did the very first Insanity and stuff was.........well Insanity.
I'm assuming it's about the same just 25 minutes. It will be a great HITT work out

 

[jkitty]

Why are you talking like the regulars in this thread are spending 200+ at GNC. That is ******ed.. Talk about misconstruing the facts. I'm lucky if I take protein once every few days.

And have you done anabolics? If you had, I think youd be able to recognize they're far from just a little help.

 

[jkitty]

Research what dude? Get on a cycle and tell me you don't feel like the freaking incredible hulk. Then come back and tell me what you can buy at GNC that gives you 10% of the same effect.

 

[tdogg2k]

Why are you talking like the regulars in this thread are spending 200+ at GNC. That is ******ed.. Talk about misconstruing the facts. I'm lucky if I take protein once every few days.
And have you done anabolics? If you had, I think youd be able to recognize they're far from just a little help.

Interesting so the Stay/Get back in shape thread have people who don't care about nutritional supplement help or spend money on supps at all??

Research what dude? Get on a cycle and tell me you don't feel like the freaking incredible hulk. Then come back and tell me what you can buy at GNC that gives you 10% of the same effect.

There's one of those trick questions that no matter how I answer you will simply not care or not believe me. So why even ask. ??

But thats exactly what you need to research.

Taking pre workout and watching a CT fletcher video has me in the gym feeling like I'm the Incredible hulk.

You're saying (which I'm assuming you have no experience in) that Steroids will give me that Pre work out feeling just all the time?

 

[SuperJ5]

Ok dude if you seriously spend money on supps and expecting them to have an affect on you anywhere near that of a cycle... Then you're the one who needs to do some research. Yea I know a lot abt sport supplements... enough to know that most are a waste of money, especially if you're looking for a "steroid" affect

 

[jkitty]

I do not understand the words that are coming out of your mouth right now. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about in regards to anabolics based off what you just said.

 

[tdogg2k]

Yet these are the same people spending 200+ at GNC for items that get you results not as good as steroids, but great result. Yet you call that Natural.

Never said anything about them giving you a steroid effect. just said they still give you good results.


Most are at the point where you're not even reading anymore.




with Jkitty..... again No matter what I say you will write me off or not believe me, (exactly what you just did).
Anabolics don't get you Pumped and feeling like hulk for the gym.
They're for your bodies growth.

Meh whatever I forgot this is NT, everyones a skeptic and expert at the same time.


The debate is what is natty.

Go Paleo it'ts as natty as you're going to g et

 

[n3rd]

Anyone ever followed any of the guides in the 4-hour body?

 

[al audi]

Omg lol

 

[Kaleo15]

I'll quote my question again after this argument is over.

 

[jking0821]

What are we even arguing?