Soooo, has LeBron surpassed Kobe as the most hated? Vol. Dan Gilbert

[bittersweet]

Originally Posted by DubA169

so who is the face of the league now?

I honestly see John Wall taking that spot ... Kevin Durant isn't cocky enough.

 

[duba169]

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N

How does this compare with Kobe's rape trial?

And that scenario is much more likely than Durant but in the end it's still Lebron's league.

I know, right? 

Lebron committed no crime.  He's the most talked about athlete in the NBA for better/worse....it's EASILY a toss-up right now between him and Kobe.

And another thing....how is Crab-#%@ C-Webb gonna talk about Lebron's decision when he was ring chasing himself when he signed w. the Pistons towards the end of his career?  I don't get these double-standards....

KG from earlier in the year:

"Honestly, he's gonna have to make a decision on not just him, but his family and his future," Garnett said when asked in his postgame press conference what LeBron would have to deal with.

"Loyalty is something that hurts you at times because you can't get youth back. I can honestly say that if I can go back and do my situation over, knowing what I know now with this organization, I'd of done it a little sooner.

i'm just saying "everyone talking about him" doesn't necessarily mean he will be the face of the league. if the majority of people think negatively of him when the season starts i doubt he is still the face of the league. i'm sure Stern will do some focus groups and find out. i think he will be shown with Bosh and Wade from now on.

how do you not understand the differance? lebron is 25 years old.

The double standard you speak of has to do with lebron's marketing of him being a once in a life time player. the Chosen one/King.  that's what we were "wittnessing"  He had the chance to be the greatetst of his or any generation and waved the white flag IMO

 

[duba169]

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N

How does this compare with Kobe's rape trial?

And that scenario is much more likely than Durant but in the end it's still Lebron's league.

I know, right? 

Lebron committed no crime.  He's the most talked about athlete in the NBA for better/worse....it's EASILY a toss-up right now between him and Kobe.

And another thing....how is Crab-#%@ C-Webb gonna talk about Lebron's decision when he was ring chasing himself when he signed w. the Pistons towards the end of his career?  I don't get these double-standards....

KG from earlier in the year:

"Honestly, he's gonna have to make a decision on not just him, but his family and his future," Garnett said when asked in his postgame press conference what LeBron would have to deal with.

"Loyalty is something that hurts you at times because you can't get youth back. I can honestly say that if I can go back and do my situation over, knowing what I know now with this organization, I'd of done it a little sooner.

i'm just saying "everyone talking about him" doesn't necessarily mean he will be the face of the league. if the majority of people think negatively of him when the season starts i doubt he is still the face of the league. i'm sure Stern will do some focus groups and find out. i think he will be shown with Bosh and Wade from now on.

how do you not understand the differance? lebron is 25 years old.

The double standard you speak of has to do with lebron's marketing of him being a once in a life time player. the Chosen one/King.  that's what we were "wittnessing"  He had the chance to be the greatetst of his or any generation and waved the white flag IMO

 

[crossisom]

Originally Posted by debs 168

look...$#+! lebron, $#+! the plane he flew to the tristate on, $#+! those gay +!@ shoes, $#+! his number six jersey, $#+! that weak +!@ smirk he always has on, $#+! those canal st +!@ headbands, $#+! his bum +!@ afro, $#+! his brand, $#+! his side #+%!! +!@, $#+! his entourage, $#+! that baby powder he always throws up like a lil diva, $#+! his {(|)} decision to go to south beach.

this is NEW YORK. {(|)} need not apply and his +!@ doesn't need to come back. actually na, he's welcome on christopher st. weak +!@ @%+%*.

get the $#+! outta the tristate before the goons stomp the sugar outta you. sweet +!@ @%+%*.

 

[crossisom]

Originally Posted by debs 168

look...$#+! lebron, $#+! the plane he flew to the tristate on, $#+! those gay +!@ shoes, $#+! his number six jersey, $#+! that weak +!@ smirk he always has on, $#+! those canal st +!@ headbands, $#+! his bum +!@ afro, $#+! his brand, $#+! his side #+%!! +!@, $#+! his entourage, $#+! that baby powder he always throws up like a lil diva, $#+! his {(|)} decision to go to south beach.

this is NEW YORK. {(|)} need not apply and his +!@ doesn't need to come back. actually na, he's welcome on christopher st. weak +!@ @%+%*.

get the $#+! outta the tristate before the goons stomp the sugar outta you. sweet +!@ @%+%*.

 

[doublejs07]

Originally Posted by DubA169

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N

How does this compare with Kobe's rape trial?

And that scenario is much more likely than Durant but in the end it's still Lebron's league.

I know, right? 

Lebron committed no crime.  He's the most talked about athlete in the NBA for better/worse....it's EASILY a toss-up right now between him and Kobe.

And another thing....how is Crab-#%@ C-Webb gonna talk about Lebron's decision when he was ring chasing himself when he signed w. the Pistons towards the end of his career?  I don't get these double-standards....

KG from earlier in the year:

"Honestly, he's gonna have to make a decision on not just him, but his family and his future," Garnett said when asked in his postgame press conference what LeBron would have to deal with.

"Loyalty is something that hurts you at times because you can't get youth back. I can honestly say that if I can go back and do my situation over, knowing what I know now with this organization, I'd of done it a little sooner.

i'm just saying "everyone talking about him" doesn't necessarily mean he will be the face of the league. if the majority of people think negatively of him when the season starts i doubt he is still the face of the league. i'm sure Stern will do some focus groups and find out. i think he will be shown with Bosh and Wade from now on.

how do you not understand the differance? lebron is 25 years old.

The double standard you speak of has to do with lebron's marketing of him being a once in a life time player. the Chosen one/King.  that's what we were "wittnessing"  He had the chance to be the greatetst of his or any generation and waved the white flag IMO

Doesn't matter if he's 25 or 35...it's the same %@+@$@@ %+@$.  Look at Garnett's quote.  That's a sure-bet HOF'er who said he WISHED he had left Minnesota earlier.  You all are crucifying Lebron for doing something that he was entitled to do.  He didn't force his way out of town, he signed an extension...did what he could, and came up short.  It's beating a dead horse, but he's put himself in the BEST situation of his career to win a title.  That is the objective of sports, right?  I don't get these double-standards you all have for the guy JUST because his name is LeBron James.  He's not Michael Jordan, he's not Kobe....he's his own man.  No matter what he did, the decision would have been scrutinized.  There is a lot of baseless hate being directed at the guy.  I can see/understand the negative viewpoints from how he conducted himself and dragged this %+@$ on, but at the end of the day...there was no crime, and he was 100% in the right to make this move.  I'm sorry feelings were hurt, but that's sports/business.  No one will ever be totally satisfied. 

 

[doublejs07]

Originally Posted by DubA169

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N

How does this compare with Kobe's rape trial?

And that scenario is much more likely than Durant but in the end it's still Lebron's league.

I know, right? 

Lebron committed no crime.  He's the most talked about athlete in the NBA for better/worse....it's EASILY a toss-up right now between him and Kobe.

And another thing....how is Crab-#%@ C-Webb gonna talk about Lebron's decision when he was ring chasing himself when he signed w. the Pistons towards the end of his career?  I don't get these double-standards....

KG from earlier in the year:

"Honestly, he's gonna have to make a decision on not just him, but his family and his future," Garnett said when asked in his postgame press conference what LeBron would have to deal with.

"Loyalty is something that hurts you at times because you can't get youth back. I can honestly say that if I can go back and do my situation over, knowing what I know now with this organization, I'd of done it a little sooner.

i'm just saying "everyone talking about him" doesn't necessarily mean he will be the face of the league. if the majority of people think negatively of him when the season starts i doubt he is still the face of the league. i'm sure Stern will do some focus groups and find out. i think he will be shown with Bosh and Wade from now on.

how do you not understand the differance? lebron is 25 years old.

The double standard you speak of has to do with lebron's marketing of him being a once in a life time player. the Chosen one/King.  that's what we were "wittnessing"  He had the chance to be the greatetst of his or any generation and waved the white flag IMO

Doesn't matter if he's 25 or 35...it's the same %@+@$@@ %+@$.  Look at Garnett's quote.  That's a sure-bet HOF'er who said he WISHED he had left Minnesota earlier.  You all are crucifying Lebron for doing something that he was entitled to do.  He didn't force his way out of town, he signed an extension...did what he could, and came up short.  It's beating a dead horse, but he's put himself in the BEST situation of his career to win a title.  That is the objective of sports, right?  I don't get these double-standards you all have for the guy JUST because his name is LeBron James.  He's not Michael Jordan, he's not Kobe....he's his own man.  No matter what he did, the decision would have been scrutinized.  There is a lot of baseless hate being directed at the guy.  I can see/understand the negative viewpoints from how he conducted himself and dragged this %+@$ on, but at the end of the day...there was no crime, and he was 100% in the right to make this move.  I'm sorry feelings were hurt, but that's sports/business.  No one will ever be totally satisfied. 

 

[ph3n0m3n0n]

Originally Posted by DubA169

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N

How does this compare with Kobe's rape trial?

And that scenario is much more likely than Durant but in the end it's still Lebron's league.

I know, right? 

Lebron committed no crime.  He's the most talked about athlete in the NBA for better/worse....it's EASILY a toss-up right now between him and Kobe.

And another thing....how is Crab-#%@ C-Webb gonna talk about Lebron's decision when he was ring chasing himself when he signed w. the Pistons towards the end of his career?  I don't get these double-standards....

KG from earlier in the year:

"Honestly, he's gonna have to make a decision on not just him, but his family and his future," Garnett said when asked in his postgame press conference what LeBron would have to deal with.

"Loyalty is something that hurts you at times because you can't get youth back. I can honestly say that if I can go back and do my situation over, knowing what I know now with this organization, I'd of done it a little sooner.

i'm just saying "everyone talking about him" doesn't necessarily mean he will be the face of the league. if the majority of people think negatively of him when the season starts i doubt he is still the face of the league. i'm sure Stern will do some focus groups and find out. i think he will be shown with Bosh and Wade from now on.

how do you not understand the differance? lebron is 25 years old.

The double standard you speak of has to do with lebron's marketing of him being a once in a life time player. the Chosen one/King.  that's what we were "wittnessing"  He had the chance to be the greatetst of his or any generation and waved the white flag IMO

Right. IYO.

He's still that once a generation type player. Switching teams didn't change his talent so why should his marketing change? You're focusing on a vaporous aspect of what he is.

 

[ph3n0m3n0n]

Originally Posted by DubA169

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N

How does this compare with Kobe's rape trial?

And that scenario is much more likely than Durant but in the end it's still Lebron's league.

I know, right? 

Lebron committed no crime.  He's the most talked about athlete in the NBA for better/worse....it's EASILY a toss-up right now between him and Kobe.

And another thing....how is Crab-#%@ C-Webb gonna talk about Lebron's decision when he was ring chasing himself when he signed w. the Pistons towards the end of his career?  I don't get these double-standards....

KG from earlier in the year:

"Honestly, he's gonna have to make a decision on not just him, but his family and his future," Garnett said when asked in his postgame press conference what LeBron would have to deal with.

"Loyalty is something that hurts you at times because you can't get youth back. I can honestly say that if I can go back and do my situation over, knowing what I know now with this organization, I'd of done it a little sooner.

i'm just saying "everyone talking about him" doesn't necessarily mean he will be the face of the league. if the majority of people think negatively of him when the season starts i doubt he is still the face of the league. i'm sure Stern will do some focus groups and find out. i think he will be shown with Bosh and Wade from now on.

how do you not understand the differance? lebron is 25 years old.

The double standard you speak of has to do with lebron's marketing of him being a once in a life time player. the Chosen one/King.  that's what we were "wittnessing"  He had the chance to be the greatetst of his or any generation and waved the white flag IMO

Right. IYO.

He's still that once a generation type player. Switching teams didn't change his talent so why should his marketing change? You're focusing on a vaporous aspect of what he is.

 

[duba169]

you don't think NIKE is working hard to come up with a new marketing campaign at the moment?

I think they are and it will be interesting to see what they come up with. i think they need to show him as the ultimate team player. sacrificed money and personal accolades all for the sake of winning championships. All about the team, not himself.

Unless they want to go straight up bad boy route. But something will change. can't have him in a throne with lions around him and all that chosen one stuff anymore.

 

[duba169]

you don't think NIKE is working hard to come up with a new marketing campaign at the moment?

I think they are and it will be interesting to see what they come up with. i think they need to show him as the ultimate team player. sacrificed money and personal accolades all for the sake of winning championships. All about the team, not himself.

Unless they want to go straight up bad boy route. But something will change. can't have him in a throne with lions around him and all that chosen one stuff anymore.

 

[dipsetgeneral]

Let's be real. It's Antawn Jamison's fault LeBron bounced. He was suppose to be the 20 pts 10 rebound guy that he was throughout the prime of his career & especially on the Wizards.

If Antawn woulda kept his consistent level of play. LeBron wouldn't feel hopeless about the upcoming Cavaliers team. But then again, chemistry was iffy, because Antawn was new to the system.

 

[dipsetgeneral]

Let's be real. It's Antawn Jamison's fault LeBron bounced. He was suppose to be the 20 pts 10 rebound guy that he was throughout the prime of his career & especially on the Wizards.

If Antawn woulda kept his consistent level of play. LeBron wouldn't feel hopeless about the upcoming Cavaliers team. But then again, chemistry was iffy, because Antawn was new to the system.

 

[doublejs07]

Originally Posted by DipsetGeneral

Let's be real. It's Antawn Jamison's fault LeBron bounced. He was suppose to be the 20 pts 10 rebound guy that he was throughout the prime of his career & especially on the Wizards.

If Antawn woulda kept his consistent level of play. LeBron wouldn't feel hopeless about the upcoming Cavaliers team. But then again, chemistry was iffy, because Antawn was new to the system.

No....what happened was Tawn's defense was exposed NATIONALLY.  This was no secret to anyone who followed the Wizards.  He's always been a guy who can get you 20/10 on any given night, but he's got the defensive awareness/capability of a folding chair. 

 

[doublejs07]

Originally Posted by DipsetGeneral

Let's be real. It's Antawn Jamison's fault LeBron bounced. He was suppose to be the 20 pts 10 rebound guy that he was throughout the prime of his career & especially on the Wizards.

If Antawn woulda kept his consistent level of play. LeBron wouldn't feel hopeless about the upcoming Cavaliers team. But then again, chemistry was iffy, because Antawn was new to the system.

No....what happened was Tawn's defense was exposed NATIONALLY.  This was no secret to anyone who followed the Wizards.  He's always been a guy who can get you 20/10 on any given night, but he's got the defensive awareness/capability of a folding chair. 

 

[elijahbrohammed]

Originally Posted by DipsetGeneral

Let's be real. It's Antawn Jamison's fault LeBron bounced. He was suppose to be the 20 pts 10 rebound guy that he was throughout the prime of his career & especially on the Wizards.

If Antawn woulda kept his consistent level of play. LeBron wouldn't feel hopeless about the upcoming Cavaliers team. But then again, chemistry was iffy, because Antawn was new to the system.

That makes absolutely no sense. Go back to posting in the Drake threads.

 

[elijahbrohammed]

Originally Posted by DipsetGeneral

Let's be real. It's Antawn Jamison's fault LeBron bounced. He was suppose to be the 20 pts 10 rebound guy that he was throughout the prime of his career & especially on the Wizards.

If Antawn woulda kept his consistent level of play. LeBron wouldn't feel hopeless about the upcoming Cavaliers team. But then again, chemistry was iffy, because Antawn was new to the system.

That makes absolutely no sense. Go back to posting in the Drake threads.

 

[ph3n0m3n0n]

They surrounded Lebron with the slowest people you could find in all of the NBA excluding injured players.

 

[ph3n0m3n0n]

They surrounded Lebron with the slowest people you could find in all of the NBA excluding injured players.

 

[nicedudewithnicedreams]

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

PH3N0M3N0N wrote:

And another thing....how is Crab-#%@ C-Webb gonna talk about Lebron's decision when he was ring chasing himself when he signed w. the Pistons towards the end of his career?  I don't get these double-standards....

To be fair, Webber was damaged goods and wanted to play at home to finish his career. But I agree I don't like some of things he has been saying about LeBron's decision. 

 

[nicedudewithnicedreams]

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

PH3N0M3N0N wrote:

And another thing....how is Crab-#%@ C-Webb gonna talk about Lebron's decision when he was ring chasing himself when he signed w. the Pistons towards the end of his career?  I don't get these double-standards....

To be fair, Webber was damaged goods and wanted to play at home to finish his career. But I agree I don't like some of things he has been saying about LeBron's decision. 

 

[deuce king]

He's not Michael Jordan, he's not Kobe....he's his own man.

I'm having a hard time believing a guy that NEEDS his entourage with him constantly wherever he's go can be considered he's OWN man.

Let's be real. It's Antawn Jamison's fault LeBron bounced.
Constantly wrong in the music forum and now constantly wrong in S&T.  Well at least you keep it consistent champ.

 

[deuce king]

He's not Michael Jordan, he's not Kobe....he's his own man.

I'm having a hard time believing a guy that NEEDS his entourage with him constantly wherever he's go can be considered he's OWN man.

Let's be real. It's Antawn Jamison's fault LeBron bounced.
Constantly wrong in the music forum and now constantly wrong in S&T.  Well at least you keep it consistent champ.

 

[orthotic]

Why are you guys hating so much? Because he didn't pick your sorry teams? And you guys are now talking about him nut-riding D-Wade's team? Please lend me your ears, because I got news for all of you: WEREN'T YOU ALL NUT-RIDING LEBRON BEFORE HE MADE HIS DECISION? WEREN'T YOU ALL HANGING FROM HIS SWEATY JOCK THE WHOLE TIME EVER SINCE HE FIRST CAME INTO THE LEAGUE? Say what you want about him leaving Cleveland for Miami; I'm glad he did it sooner than later. And the fact that he took a paycut just to be surrounded with better talent. Let's face it, Cleveland wasn't going to put ANYBODY around him, they were just using him to put #*#*$ in seats. Now all they're left with is a crazy owner who I doubt ANYBODY would want to play for now. I'm glad Lebron has this kind of motivation now; if he takes all of this in he will be sure to perform greater than all of our wildest dreams.

 

[orthotic]

Why are you guys hating so much? Because he didn't pick your sorry teams? And you guys are now talking about him nut-riding D-Wade's team? Please lend me your ears, because I got news for all of you: WEREN'T YOU ALL NUT-RIDING LEBRON BEFORE HE MADE HIS DECISION? WEREN'T YOU ALL HANGING FROM HIS SWEATY JOCK THE WHOLE TIME EVER SINCE HE FIRST CAME INTO THE LEAGUE? Say what you want about him leaving Cleveland for Miami; I'm glad he did it sooner than later. And the fact that he took a paycut just to be surrounded with better talent. Let's face it, Cleveland wasn't going to put ANYBODY around him, they were just using him to put #*#*$ in seats. Now all they're left with is a crazy owner who I doubt ANYBODY would want to play for now. I'm glad Lebron has this kind of motivation now; if he takes all of this in he will be sure to perform greater than all of our wildest dreams.