Some of these teacher salaries are INSANELY low...

[getback]

What never gets talked about are how many teachers are actually bad at their job . Especially collegiate level professors. It kinda takes away any sympathy I have for them and their pay.

I wish there could be a system in which teachers are compensated according to their performance but that probably could never happen

What about the ones who are good at their job but are underpaid?

It's possible to address 2 problems simultaneously. Under performing employees AND compensation.

Just because some teachers are bad at what they do doesn't mean everyone around them should suffer

 

[blastercombo]

What about the ones who are good at their job but are underpaid?

It's possible to address 2 problems simultaneously. Under performing employees AND compensation.

Just because some teachers are bad at what they do doesn't mean everyone around them should suffer

Dude already admitted you can’t even justify the statement that there are “a lot of bad teachers”. Statement is null and void. I run into what I believe is 1 bad _______ and all of a sudden the entire field is overpaid and they’re majority bad? Sure.

 

[HankHill]

They aren't put anywhere different than other students, you have to adapt as a teacher to change your lessons. And honestly just patience it's not easy. In my free time (not on the clock) I went and found a couple websites that provide similar exercise to the ones I have them complete in class that comes with video tutorials with slow step-by-steps. Letting them work with a partner helps too. If you isolate kids who can't speak a language and put them with other kids who can't speak it doesn't help them learn.

It also depends on the school [district’s] policy. Someone asked me to consider a high school Computer Science teacher position because they were at risk of losing the program. I looked at the curriculum they wanted me to teach and asked if I can incorporate some stuff they’d actually use on the job to make it more interesting and easier to learn. School said nah, I would have to go by the book.

The salary would have been a severe paycut ($40k less than what I was making). I contemplated doing it while working on a graduate degree with teacher benefits (grants, loan payback, etc.). But looking at their pay scale, it would’ve taken me a decade to get back to my salary at the time.

Wasn’t worth it to me. I commend teachers who do want to educate kids, but have to work within the confines of a system and low pay.

 

[HEATHEN]

Problem with teachers is that they aren’t objective.

They have beliefs, possibly even agendas.

I’ve encountered racist teachers and faculty members.

Teachers who got into teaching because they felt like they couldn’t make it doing anything else.

There’s a lot of really bad teachers out there making the profession look bad for the great ones.

I’m down for paying teachers more on the condition that they have to up their game. No more just rehashing the same material semester after semester.

I can’t remember all the times I was given some papers to realize that the material was printed out three years ago and hasn’t been updated since. This ***** been coasting teaching the same exact material for YEARS...

And this ***** wants a bigger bag? Hell no. Teachers already only work 9 months out the year plus they get Spring, Winter & Thanksgiving breaks. Can’t have them out here talmbout “I had to grade X amount of papers” when that’s the totality of your entire workload, meanwhile their students have 5 other classes to do homework for and a part time job. F all the way out of here professor.


And the gatekeeper types? The ones who fancy themselves as the expert on the subject yet can’t even land a lucrative position in the field they teach? The ones who feel like it’s their job to give three hours of homework a night and the material as tedious as possible to make their students “earn it?”

**** them.

Worst kind of teachers ever.

 

[WASHED KING]

It also depends on the school [district’s] policy. Someone asked me to consider a high school Computer Science teacher position because they were at risk of losing the program. I looked at the curriculum they wanted me to teach and asked if I can incorporate some stuff they’d actually use on the job to make it more interesting and easier to learn. School said nah, I would have to go by the book.

The salary would have been a severe paycut ($40k less than what I was making). I contemplated doing it while working on a graduate degree with teacher benefits (grants, loan payback, etc.). But looking at their pay scale, it would’ve taken me a decade to get back to my salary at the time.

Wasn’t worth it to me. I commend teachers who do want to educate kids, but have to work within the confines of a system and low pay.

That's on that school, I don't go by the book and last semester of my 89 students 97% of them were proficient in Computer Programming 1 which means they passed the state exam, compared to the state average of 84%, and district score of 90%. I do what works for the kids. They might complain in the beginning but they shut all that **** up when them scores come back.

 

[SupremeBeing5]

i know a teacher who sold drugs on the side.

Good dude. Got caught though and made front paper.

 

[clyde the glide]

I've always felt about teachers the way I feel about cops. So many bad ones because the pay is too low for how difficult the job is. Gotta hold professions like these to a higher standard.

 

[jjs07]

Problem with teachers is that they aren’t objective.

They have beliefs, possibly even agendas.

I’ve encountered racist teachers and faculty members.

Teachers who got into teaching because they felt like they couldn’t make it doing anything else.

There’s a lot of really bad teachers out there making the profession look bad for the great ones.

I’m down for paying teachers more on the condition that they have to up their game. No more just rehashing the same material semester after semester.

I can’t remember all the times I was given some papers to realize that the material was printed out three years ago and hasn’t been updated since. This ***** been coasting teaching the same exact material for YEARS...

And this ***** wants a bigger bag? Hell no. Teachers already only work 9 months out the year plus they get Spring, Winter & Thanksgiving breaks. Can’t have them out here talmbout “I had to grade X amount of papers” when that’s the totality of your entire workload, meanwhile their students have 5 other classes to do homework for and a part time job. F all the way out of here professor.


And the gatekeeper types? The ones who fancy themselves as the expert on the subject yet can’t even land a lucrative position in the field they teach? The ones who feel like it’s their job to give three hours of homework a night and the material as tedious as possible to make their students “earn it?”

**** them.

Worst kind of teachers ever.

My wife teaches...she’s handcuffed by the curriculum which is 100% tied into the state-mandated standardized tests. Faulting teachers for what they’re teaching isn’t entirely fair, imo.

 

[tay1]

Dude already admitted you can’t even justify the statement that there are “a lot of bad teachers”. Statement is null and void. I run into what I believe is 1 bad _______ and all of a sudden the entire field is overpaid and they’re majority bad? Sure.

You just be making conclusions. Said nothing about them being overpaid. No wonder you be so upset all the time. Yo mind be making **** up

 

[tay1]

i know a teacher who sold drugs on the side.

Good dude. Got caught though and made front paper.

You copped from him?

 

[wayniac211]

My wife teaches....

Makes sense now. Promised it was a gc and nothing else

i know a teacher who sold drugs on the side.

Good dude. Got caught though and made front paper.

Not a good dude if he sold to students. Homie if he sold to staff

 

[lazyj10]

What's all this talk about teachers not having to work holidays...aside from the retail, who works holidays? I sure as **** don't.

If I made enough money elsewhere and/or had a solid pension/retirement package, I'd get into teaching/coaching. Those who do it purely for passion/love for kids - hats off to you.

 

[ninjahood]

Livid about which part exactly?

building public housing in place where schools used to occupying.

 

[calibeebee]

I was such an ******* in highschool and middle school. For this reason alone, I feel bad for all teachers and wish them the best. They have to deal with things that no human beings should ever have to deal with.

Also, if you get pissed and punch a customer at your waitress job, you can always get another job ANYWHERE else waiting tables. You get pissed and give a minor the two piece biscuit combo, you’re done. Find a new profession.

 

[ryda421]

building public housing in place where schools used to occupying.

too bad your papi trump would rather build a hotel there. Which i am sure for you is both the same.

But wait, public housing is a bit of socialism is it not?

So you are for socialist actions as long as it aligns with you?

 

[bendover]

So its 50k for 9 months of work? (2 months summer, 3 weeks winter off)
Am i reading it right?

 

[ryda421]

I think you guys fail to see that some teachers even teach summer and winter classes

 

[703 hwy]

How many college professors smashing students for grades?

 

[WASHED KING]

I don't know who told y'all this lie of 9 months of work but it's basically 11 months. Half of June is full of workdays, same with August. Just because the students aren't there don't mean we aren't. And that's not even throwing in the field trips, Open houses, sporting events, concerts/plays, graduations, proms/dances, and meetings teachers participate in throughout the year that occur outside of normal school hours. And that's assuming that teacher doesn't stay after school any for tutoring (I do). Most of my lunches everyday include gets working to makeup work, or get extra help on assignments. I pack sandwiches because I eat on my feet most days while moving around the lab. On average I stay an extra hr and half after school each day. If you do the math that's an extra 30 hrs a month that's unpaid.

 

[SupremeBeing5]

Makes sense now. Promised it was a gc and nothing else

Not a good dude if he sold to students. Homie if he sold to staff

Student was selling for him and didn’t pay up, so he shot at the student.

Google

“Boston teacher drug dealer”

 

[tay1]

Damn. Dude was tryna be a Kingpin on school premises

 

[HankHill]

Yeah. People tend to forget that teachers aren’t working just 8 hours a day for those 10 months. A lot of post school activities and some weekend hours. You take your work home. My job knows that at 4:30-5, my laptop is closed and locked in my office. Won’t see me active until I walk in the next morning

 

[shorty doo wop]

So its 50k for 9 months of work? (2 months summer, 3 weeks winter off)
Am i reading it right?

You do realize teachers have to get a lot of qualifications.

In ny u gotta take like 3 tests and make a big *** portfolio with videos of u teaching the whole class and focusing on one student in particular. As well as observing countless hours of classes in real schools while in college. Plus student teaching internships while in ur senior year of college. Then u gotta do like 3 different workshops. Get fingerprinted and once u start work u gotta go get ur masters within 5 yrs because if u dont u wont get ur teaching license renewed.

So to recap a teacher can have all of this under there belt:
100 hrs of fieldwork while in college
Student teaching internship experience
Pass 3 certification tests plus the portfolio
A MASTERS degree
3 workshop trainings

Correct me if I'm wrong but most professions that require this much testing and stuff are doctors and lawyers who make tons more

 

[mplsdunk]

I was such an ******* in highschool and middle school. For this reason alone, I feel bad for all teachers and wish them the best. They have to deal with things that no human beings should ever have to deal with.

Also, if you get pissed and punch a customer at your waitress job, you can always get another job ANYWHERE else waiting tables. You get pissed and give a minor the two piece biscuit combo, you’re done. Find a new profession.

One of my favorite teachers choke slammed my boy through a desk.

The entire class liked this teacher and my friend admitted he was wrong. The whole class agreed not to snitch and he never got in trouble.

My boy is now doing life in prison out in California and the teacher quit 5 years later and became a mail man. Me and my sister still talk to him. He said he just started hating teaching after 20 years.

 

[tay1]

One of my favorite teachers choke slammed my boy through a desk.

The entire class liked this teacher and my friend admitted he was wrong. The whole class agreed not to snitch and he never got in trouble.

My boy is now doing life in prison out in California and the teacher quit 5 years later and became a mail man. Me and my sister still talk to him. He said he just started hating teaching after 20 years.

My range of emotion from reading this beginning to end