REAL TALK, What is so bad about GM cars, or rather American cars??

[napoleon]

Originally Posted by cguy610

Originally Posted by JFDOOM

They handle liek crap

Not the corvette.

...because thats a portrayal of every american car...

 

[essential1]

I look at American Cars like Nike in the Early 1980s.

Nike had made a name for itself as a running shoe company for the decade prior.. Then they hitched their brand on the "Aerobics boom", and lost most of their market share to Adidas. At the time Nike was on the brink of closing, until they gambled and signed MJ. The rest is history.

Ford & GM, etc. had a certain prestige.. In the late 90s - early 2000s they then hitched their entire brands on the Hummer/ Envoy/ Escalade/Explorer market, they overstepped their bounds. Once the Housing Bubble burst, and the economy tanked, that market was dying and they were stuck holding the bag.

 

[essential1]

I look at American Cars like Nike in the Early 1980s.

Nike had made a name for itself as a running shoe company for the decade prior.. Then they hitched their brand on the "Aerobics boom", and lost most of their market share to Adidas. At the time Nike was on the brink of closing, until they gambled and signed MJ. The rest is history.

Ford & GM, etc. had a certain prestige.. In the late 90s - early 2000s they then hitched their entire brands on the Hummer/ Envoy/ Escalade/Explorer market, they overstepped their bounds. Once the Housing Bubble burst, and the economy tanked, that market was dying and they were stuck holding the bag.

 

[abc]

I'm pretty sure it all started with the 70s gas crisis -- American car makers got complacent and too confident when they realized they had a hold on the American market. Japanese cars were cheaper, more reliable and had better gas mileage, forcing American companies to create horrible abomination cars like the Pinto that blew up upon certain collisions. 

WIKI:

As in Western Europe, U.S. automakers were significantly impacted by the 1973 oil embargo and energy crisis. Before the energy crisis, large, heavy, and powerful cars were the standard in the U.S. 

After the energy crisis, however, gasoline cost more and reduced the demand for large cars.[sup][33][/sup] The Toyota Corona, the Toyota Corolla, the Datsun B210, the Datsun 510, theHonda Civic, the Mitsubishi Galant (a captive import from Chrysler sold as the Dodge Colt), the Subaru DL, and later the Honda Accord all had four cylinder engines that were more fuel efficient in comparison to the typical V8 and six cylinder engines found in North American vehicles. From Europe, the Volkswagen Beetle, the Volkswagen Fastback, theRenault 8, the Renault LeCar, and the Fiat Brava were also offered. As buyers began exchanging large cars for the smaller imported ones, Detroit responded with the Ford Pinto, theFord Maverick, the Chevrolet Vega, the Chevrolet Nova, the Plymouth Valliant, and the Plymouth Volaré.

I don't think consumers ever looked at American carmakers the same since that era. The stereotype (and partial truth) that Honda and Toyota make better cars has carried on... shoot, my dad tells me that all the time.

 

[abc]

I'm pretty sure it all started with the 70s gas crisis -- American car makers got complacent and too confident when they realized they had a hold on the American market. Japanese cars were cheaper, more reliable and had better gas mileage, forcing American companies to create horrible abomination cars like the Pinto that blew up upon certain collisions. 

WIKI:

As in Western Europe, U.S. automakers were significantly impacted by the 1973 oil embargo and energy crisis. Before the energy crisis, large, heavy, and powerful cars were the standard in the U.S. 

After the energy crisis, however, gasoline cost more and reduced the demand for large cars.[sup][33][/sup] The Toyota Corona, the Toyota Corolla, the Datsun B210, the Datsun 510, theHonda Civic, the Mitsubishi Galant (a captive import from Chrysler sold as the Dodge Colt), the Subaru DL, and later the Honda Accord all had four cylinder engines that were more fuel efficient in comparison to the typical V8 and six cylinder engines found in North American vehicles. From Europe, the Volkswagen Beetle, the Volkswagen Fastback, theRenault 8, the Renault LeCar, and the Fiat Brava were also offered. As buyers began exchanging large cars for the smaller imported ones, Detroit responded with the Ford Pinto, theFord Maverick, the Chevrolet Vega, the Chevrolet Nova, the Plymouth Valliant, and the Plymouth Volaré.

I don't think consumers ever looked at American carmakers the same since that era. The stereotype (and partial truth) that Honda and Toyota make better cars has carried on... shoot, my dad tells me that all the time.

 

[ninjahood]

american muscle died in da 70's because insurance companies were price hiking anything with a big engine....

most american cars now are just as good as their import counterparts...stigmas die hard though as this thread suggest.

 

[ninjahood]

american muscle died in da 70's because insurance companies were price hiking anything with a big engine....

most american cars now are just as good as their import counterparts...stigmas die hard though as this thread suggest.

 

[fdub]

Originally Posted by ABC

I'm pretty sure it all started with the 70s gas crisis -- American car makers got complacent and too confident when they realized they had a hold on the American market. Japanese cars were cheaper, more reliable and had better gas mileage, forcing American companies to create horrible abomination cars like the Pinto that blew up upon certain collisions. 

WIKI:

As in Western Europe, U.S. automakers were significantly impacted by the 1973 oil embargo and energy crisis. Before the energy crisis, large, heavy, and powerful cars were the standard in the U.S. 

After the energy crisis, however, gasoline cost more and reduced the demand for large cars.[sup][33][/sup] The Toyota Corona, the Toyota Corolla, the Datsun B210, the Datsun 510, theHonda Civic, the Mitsubishi Galant (a captive import from Chrysler sold as the Dodge Colt), the Subaru DL, and later the Honda Accord all had four cylinder engines that were more fuel efficient in comparison to the typical V8 and six cylinder engines found in North American vehicles. From Europe, the Volkswagen Beetle, the Volkswagen Fastback, theRenault 8, the Renault LeCar, and the Fiat Brava were also offered. As buyers began exchanging large cars for the smaller imported ones, Detroit responded with the Ford Pinto, theFord Maverick, the Chevrolet Vega, the Chevrolet Nova, the Plymouth Valliant, and the Plymouth Volaré.

I don't think consumers ever looked at American carmakers the same since that era. The stereotype (and partial truth) that Honda and Toyota make better cars has carried on... shoot, my dad tells me that all the time.

Wow.. Good info... I also want to know why they use Drastically cheap interiors designs and materials too now a days in some of their cars.. Anyone knew why?

 

[fdub]

Originally Posted by ABC

I'm pretty sure it all started with the 70s gas crisis -- American car makers got complacent and too confident when they realized they had a hold on the American market. Japanese cars were cheaper, more reliable and had better gas mileage, forcing American companies to create horrible abomination cars like the Pinto that blew up upon certain collisions. 

WIKI:

As in Western Europe, U.S. automakers were significantly impacted by the 1973 oil embargo and energy crisis. Before the energy crisis, large, heavy, and powerful cars were the standard in the U.S. 

After the energy crisis, however, gasoline cost more and reduced the demand for large cars.[sup][33][/sup] The Toyota Corona, the Toyota Corolla, the Datsun B210, the Datsun 510, theHonda Civic, the Mitsubishi Galant (a captive import from Chrysler sold as the Dodge Colt), the Subaru DL, and later the Honda Accord all had four cylinder engines that were more fuel efficient in comparison to the typical V8 and six cylinder engines found in North American vehicles. From Europe, the Volkswagen Beetle, the Volkswagen Fastback, theRenault 8, the Renault LeCar, and the Fiat Brava were also offered. As buyers began exchanging large cars for the smaller imported ones, Detroit responded with the Ford Pinto, theFord Maverick, the Chevrolet Vega, the Chevrolet Nova, the Plymouth Valliant, and the Plymouth Volaré.

I don't think consumers ever looked at American carmakers the same since that era. The stereotype (and partial truth) that Honda and Toyota make better cars has carried on... shoot, my dad tells me that all the time.

Wow.. Good info... I also want to know why they use Drastically cheap interiors designs and materials too now a days in some of their cars.. Anyone knew why?

 

[fantastic4our]

Originally Posted by Dakingii

Nothing.

its just this sheep mentality of the human race that says that American cars are no good.

All it takes is for the majority to say that something is bad then since people keep hearing it they eventually believe its true, eventhough they personally have no facts to contribute to their argument, just word of mouth.

and i dont want to bring race and broad generalizations into this but alot of people who say American cars are trash tend to be Asian, and we know how Asian dudes love imports

Pretty much.

And I've had Hondas, Mitsubishis, Chevys and Buicks.

I want a Caddy next tho

 

[fantastic4our]

Originally Posted by Dakingii

Nothing.

its just this sheep mentality of the human race that says that American cars are no good.

All it takes is for the majority to say that something is bad then since people keep hearing it they eventually believe its true, eventhough they personally have no facts to contribute to their argument, just word of mouth.

and i dont want to bring race and broad generalizations into this but alot of people who say American cars are trash tend to be Asian, and we know how Asian dudes love imports

Pretty much.

And I've had Hondas, Mitsubishis, Chevys and Buicks.

I want a Caddy next tho

 

[ninjahood]

Originally Posted by FDUB

Originally Posted by ABC

I'm pretty sure it all started with the 70s gas crisis -- American car makers got complacent and too confident when they realized they had a hold on the American market. Japanese cars were cheaper, more reliable and had better gas mileage, forcing American companies to create horrible abomination cars like the Pinto that blew up upon certain collisions. 

WIKI:

As in Western Europe, U.S. automakers were significantly impacted by the 1973 oil embargo and energy crisis. Before the energy crisis, large, heavy, and powerful cars were the standard in the U.S. 

After the energy crisis, however, gasoline cost more and reduced the demand for large cars.[sup][33][/sup] The Toyota Corona, the Toyota Corolla, the Datsun B210, the Datsun 510, theHonda Civic, the Mitsubishi Galant (a captive import from Chrysler sold as the Dodge Colt), the Subaru DL, and later the Honda Accord all had four cylinder engines that were more fuel efficient in comparison to the typical V8 and six cylinder engines found in North American vehicles. From Europe, the Volkswagen Beetle, the Volkswagen Fastback, theRenault 8, the Renault LeCar, and the Fiat Brava were also offered. As buyers began exchanging large cars for the smaller imported ones, Detroit responded with the Ford Pinto, theFord Maverick, the Chevrolet Vega, the Chevrolet Nova, the Plymouth Valliant, and the Plymouth Volaré.

I don't think consumers ever looked at American carmakers the same since that era. The stereotype (and partial truth) that Honda and Toyota make better cars has carried on... shoot, my dad tells me that all the time.

Wow.. Good info... I also want to know why they use Drastically cheap interiors designs and materials too now a days in some of their cars.. Anyone knew why?

demographic they cater their cars to don't care about em....it'll be someone pushing a 2.7 liter charger complaining about da interior

a SRT8 buyer can give 2 craps he just

wants his hemi.

 

[ninjahood]

Originally Posted by FDUB

Originally Posted by ABC

I'm pretty sure it all started with the 70s gas crisis -- American car makers got complacent and too confident when they realized they had a hold on the American market. Japanese cars were cheaper, more reliable and had better gas mileage, forcing American companies to create horrible abomination cars like the Pinto that blew up upon certain collisions. 

WIKI:

As in Western Europe, U.S. automakers were significantly impacted by the 1973 oil embargo and energy crisis. Before the energy crisis, large, heavy, and powerful cars were the standard in the U.S. 

After the energy crisis, however, gasoline cost more and reduced the demand for large cars.[sup][33][/sup] The Toyota Corona, the Toyota Corolla, the Datsun B210, the Datsun 510, theHonda Civic, the Mitsubishi Galant (a captive import from Chrysler sold as the Dodge Colt), the Subaru DL, and later the Honda Accord all had four cylinder engines that were more fuel efficient in comparison to the typical V8 and six cylinder engines found in North American vehicles. From Europe, the Volkswagen Beetle, the Volkswagen Fastback, theRenault 8, the Renault LeCar, and the Fiat Brava were also offered. As buyers began exchanging large cars for the smaller imported ones, Detroit responded with the Ford Pinto, theFord Maverick, the Chevrolet Vega, the Chevrolet Nova, the Plymouth Valliant, and the Plymouth Volaré.

I don't think consumers ever looked at American carmakers the same since that era. The stereotype (and partial truth) that Honda and Toyota make better cars has carried on... shoot, my dad tells me that all the time.

Wow.. Good info... I also want to know why they use Drastically cheap interiors designs and materials too now a days in some of their cars.. Anyone knew why?

demographic they cater their cars to don't care about em....it'll be someone pushing a 2.7 liter charger complaining about da interior

a SRT8 buyer can give 2 craps he just

wants his hemi.

 

[cwrite78]

Originally Posted by Jalrulz

they lack swagger.

i dont know about that

 

[cwrite78]

Originally Posted by Jalrulz

they lack swagger.

i dont know about that

 

[dmxgod]

GOT DAMN..i'm not a truck guy..but that Raptor makes me want to buy that truck NOW..

 

[dmxgod]

GOT DAMN..i'm not a truck guy..but that Raptor makes me want to buy that truck NOW..

 

[doin90onthefreeway]

Originally Posted by Jalrulz

they lack swagger.

 

[doin90onthefreeway]

Originally Posted by Jalrulz

they lack swagger.

 

[danikerhino]

I'm sure some of you have already said it, but they've been good for the last few years. I actually think that the imports are sorta going down hill aside from Hyundai.

 

[danikerhino]

I'm sure some of you have already said it, but they've been good for the last few years. I actually think that the imports are sorta going down hill aside from Hyundai.

 

[samduh562]

Originally Posted by doin90onthefreeway

Originally Posted by Jalrulz

they lack swagger.

@ the gif
link to vid?

 

[samduh562]

Originally Posted by doin90onthefreeway

Originally Posted by Jalrulz

they lack swagger.

@ the gif
link to vid?

 

[doin90onthefreeway]

i have no idea

i just got it from sports and training in the "lebron james was underpaid" thread

 

[doin90onthefreeway]

i have no idea

i just got it from sports and training in the "lebron james was underpaid" thread