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Punchlines and word play mean something guys. Just saying
Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread
- Thread in 'Music' Thread starter Started by brivera716,
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Man I went to school with a dude from Jersey who modeled his whole high school identity after Jay. Around that time "fake up north ******" was running rampant in Florida.
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That's a dumb argument
It's a who sold the most argument. That's not hip hop and has never been hop hop.
So Hammer was better than Rakim? Vanilla Ice better than LL?
Some of you need to start using your analytical and critical thinking skills instead of following random twitter thoughts.
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How old are you? Bruh Stan. Yes thats where ther word came from.
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Not to drag it out but like musically, longevity, visibility; all of that. He stands the test of time. Some of his biggest hits still sound great almost 30 years later.
Doin it. I shot ya. Around the way girl. Hey lover. Loungin. Back seat of my jeep. These are iconic songs.
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Twitter said that Jay-Z never was the hottest in any year, because Nelly, 50, Ja, DMX....
****in Nelly, the dude who used ghostwriters and made pop songs was better than Jay-Z?
but yeah, let's run with that...
This isn't the NFL where you can say, Barry Sanders ran for....Emmitt Smith ran for....Adrian Peterson ran for.
It's not that easy, and it's all subjective and opinion, but most people aren't even qualified to speak on rap. It's like a 20 year old giving their opinion on basketball. It's some 15 year old in Atlanta saying Anthony Edwards is his favorite player and the GOAT.
****in Nelly, the dude who used ghostwriters and made pop songs was better than Jay-Z?
but yeah, let's run with that...
This isn't the NFL where you can say, Barry Sanders ran for....Emmitt Smith ran for....Adrian Peterson ran for.
It's not that easy, and it's all subjective and opinion, but most people aren't even qualified to speak on rap. It's like a 20 year old giving their opinion on basketball. It's some 15 year old in Atlanta saying Anthony Edwards is his favorite player and the GOAT.
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Gotta clean the thread gallery, who posted that ugly thing??
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That was early in his career. Eminem has been rapping gibberish for way longer than that.
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I never said anything about sales. I was just talking about what people were listening to. But back then you had to pay for music so I guess its partly sales. But when I talk to a lot of older friends/fam they all rocked with Jay but he just didnt have the game on lock like his reputation suggest. Thats all im saying. Its probably a regional thing
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Ok Red, its still part of his career tho. Also how do you know this if you don't listen to him?
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I even recall in the mtv days in the 90’s Jay was one of those dudes you held a level above the TRL acts like Nelly, DMX and 50. I’m not sure someone who is under 35 really gets the difference. Mid-90’s there was an artistic level attained by Pac, Biggie, Jay, Dre, Snoop that those other dudes weren’t even considered in the same league as, regardless of album sales or what was hot.
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perfectly put
my girl saw Wayne last year in Denver, she does not think him at the Super Bowl is a good idea either
****** wanting him there off nostalgia at this pointsomebody said he can perform How To Love
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I would never compare Jay to freaking Nelly. We have common sense lol. (no pun intended)
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He got like 5 songs total from them 2 albums with substance. Then he only got a few from his 100 mixtapes. No substance from 2008 and up. Waynes catalog is filled with mostly nonsense, he just made it sound good. He was witty, his flow was great but even his peak is only 05-07.
When people talk about Wayne's influence it's lean, face tats, autotune.
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I'd put Jay-Z and DMX on the same level even during the TRL era.
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Now that's just disrespectful.
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He got like 5 songs total from them 2 albums with substance. Then he only got a few from his 100 mixtapes. No substance from 2008 and up. Waynes catalog is filled with mostly nonsense, he just made it sound good. He was witty, his flow was great but even his peak is only 05-07.
When people talk about Wayne's influence it's lean, face tats, autotune.
Wayne had me singing about loving prostitutes in a raspy voice
wholetime tho his mixtape run is what people remember fr, I RARELY see people mention his albums in these conversations besides C2 and the commercial success of C3
***** was taking folks songs for a solid time period, it’s still some joints I forget weren’t actually his songs
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Non-cussing Wayne when he was 3rd behind Juvie and BG? Nobody was calling Wayne this great rapper back then. He was cool but ya'll always go extra.
It wasn't until 04-05 when he started calling himself the best rapper alive and like I said that peak was only 2-3 years.
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Lies. Juvie already had notoriety, BG was HIM, then it was Wayne.......Turk? He tight! I was THERE there.Non-cussing Wayne when he was 3rd behind Juvie and BG? Nobody was calling Wayne this great rapper back then. He was cool but ya'll always go extra.
It wasn't until 04-05 when he started calling himself the best rapper alive and like I said that peak was only 2-3 years.
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Yeah BG was that dude. I know that through my fam. Hip Hop was way more regional in those days though.
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Ion know fam, many had Juvie and Wayne at the one and two spotNon-cussing Wayne when he was 3rd behind Juvie and BG? Nobody was calling Wayne this great rapper back then. He was cool but ya'll always go extra.
It wasn't until 04-05 when he started calling himself the best rapper alive and like I said that peak was only 2-3 years.
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Never BG and Juve were always 1&2
My generation gravitated to Wayne because he was younger than everyone else but BG and Juve were the top dogs
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IMO Rapping on Street mess without cursing the way he did was hard
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Wayne had me singing about loving prostitutes in a raspy voice
wholetime tho his mixtape run is what people remember fr, I RARELY see people mention his albums in these conversations besides C2 and the commercial success of C3
***** was taking folks songs for a solid time period, it’s still some joints I forget weren’t actually his songs
His mixtape run was great. Just like 50's. Both of 'em took over songs I just laugh when people keep acting like Wayne was this great rapper since a teen.
Nobody was calling him a prodigy back then. I bought all them CMR albums back then. He was good, he had good verses and catchy hooks but people gotta relax. Nas was a prodigy. Prodigy was a prodigy.
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