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One of the best decisions I've ever made in my life was rejecting religion and spirituality as a whole.
Really helps cut down on the fluff.
Really helps cut down on the fluff.
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Already addressed this frame of thought too. “It’s good to be poor” or “know suffering now so that heaven will be better” are all devices to keep poor people happy to be poor
So in essence your prayers are more powerful than gods plan? You could easily mess the whole plan up with a couple requests
That is the scam the lies with the beliefs of abraham. No other belief system comes closest suggesting such."In order for it to work, you have to believe that it works" has gotta be one of the bigger lines of bull**** out there.
That’s a cop out answerIf That's How You Look At It Sure. You'd Have To Ask Someone Who Believes That Their Prayer Will Change Things.
No doubt but I think “the more you give the more you’ll get” is worse"In order for it to work, you have to believe that it works" has gotta be one of the bigger lines of bull**** out there.
That’s a cop out answer
again, what is the definitive biblical answer to this?
Yeah the entire idea of prosperity gospel is 100% predatory and completely immoral.No doubt but I think “the more you give the more you’ll get” is worse
Why Not Read The Bible To Get The Answer? Or Google It?
That’s a cop out answer
again, what is the definitive biblical answer to this?
1. I'm not dodging anything. From my understanding prayer is used for guidance like a map. Some ppl pray and aren't proactive about their prayers.1. Ok you’re dodging the question now. 2. Your Bible, is it fact or opinion? If it’s a fact then your responses to what prayer does has a definitive answer. You both answered completely opposite. ONE has to be correct. Which one of the responses are correct?
1. May you post a link for this?It started around 1000 bc, and it started through judaism. 1. This is an historical fact. Once chritianity came on the scene, things went even further downhill for women, ending with islam.
So here we are.
Suffering is a way of life w/o the extremes of the subject. I've scraped my knees, lost things I've cared about it, will likely see to my parents and grandmothers deaths. Suffering is absolute.respectfully, bull****.
normalization of suffering is an oppressor's technique aimed at facilitating comfort with any inequities inflicted on an underclass.
we can be better than all those things, which is why the first sign of civilization is widely understood to be medicine...we started to fix the fallen instead of leaving them for food.
fairness, like any goal, is a human invention.
I feel like this attitude is a major contributor to why the world is as ****** up as it is.Suffering is a way of life w/o the extremes of the subject. I've scraped my knees, lost things I've cared about it, will likely see to my parents and grandmothers deaths. Suffering is absolute.
Some kid is getting raped atm. I don't want that to be, but it is happening and there is nothing I or you can do about it.
Should ppl granted the rights equality? Sure, but that's never happened and will never happen. We when we hunter gathers, if you didn't figure out a way to eat or protect yourself then you were assed out.
How man ppl have you watched die despite doing your best trying to save them?I feel like this attitude is a major contributor to why the world is as ****ed up as it is.
"Life's not fair" should be a motivator to make things more equitable for everyone, not an excuse to throw up your arms and say "welp...it is what it is."
"Despite doing your best" is the operative phrase here. A big part of health and medicine is dealing with life not being fair, but doing everything within the power of your scope to make it better.How man ppl have you watched die despite doing your best trying to save them?
First, as you know man did not always exist. Spiritual systems that men were born into, ruled. Curses, spiritual barriers were and are, very real. Once broken through the destruction of those beliefs, it was a vary slow process, and took several male dominated religions over thousands of years, to take hold. Moses did battle with Heteru/Hathor/ The Golden calf, and Mohammad destroyed temples to the goddesses as well. Once the goddess was removed as the spiritual center, the core of which is all of nature, everything was thrown out of balance. This is also why the planet is dying. Of course I will post links.1. May you post a link for this?
You don't think the average man being physically more domineering than the average woman is the root oppression. **** like losing large amounts of blood monthly, pregnancies, and being smaller will put you in fairly vulnerable positions.
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But wont it be done be regardless?It Depends On The Person And Their Relationship/Belief In Whom They Are Praying To.
Personally I Found Peace In Simply Praying For God's Will To Be Done.
But wont it be done be regardless?
With saying this and seeing what I saying 1st hand regularly, I'm not sure why you're trying arguing w/ me when we are in agreeance w/ one another. Sure we can try/do things to make stuff better, but better isn't always achievable the same worse isn't. A mere second could've prevented someone suffering, but it didn't:"Despite doing your best" is the operative phrase here. A big part of health and medicine is dealing with life not being fair, but doing everything within the power of your scope to make it better.
Death is absolute, but we have the power to mitigate suffering.
We both know that I don't believe in any of this. First, as you know man did not always exist. Spiritual systems that men were born into, ruled. Curses, spiritual barriers were and are, very real. Once broken through the destruction of those beliefs, it was a vary slow process, and took several male dominated religions over thousands of years, to take hold. Moses did battle with Heteru/Hathor/ The Golden calf, and Mohammad destroyed temples to the goddesses as well. Once the goddess was removed as the spiritual center, the core of which is all of nature, everything was thrown out of balance. This is also why the planet is dying. Of course I will post links. .
With saying this and seeing what I saying 1st hand regularly, I'm not sure why you're trying arguing w/ me when we are in agreeance w/ one another. Sure we can try/do things to make stuff better, but better isn't always achievable the same worse isn't. A mere second could've prevented someone suffering, but it didn't:
We both know that I don't believe in any of this
blastercombo I Wouldnt Have Had An Issue Answering Your Questions But You Coming With The Jokes And Being Condescending Showed Me What You Was On.
Sure dudeThat’s a cop out answer
again, what is the definitive biblical answer to this?
So you’re giving me a non answer? I’ll just leave it at that. All ends up this way. When it’s all said and done the answers somehow are “a mystery” but the practice is definitive.1. I'm not dodging anything. From my understanding prayer is used for guidance like a map. Some ppl pray and aren't proactive about their prayers.
2. My Bible? Many take it as fact, some take it as opinion. An answer can be no answer at all.
3. In the Bible pretty much all the characters are different w/ serving God being their communality. I don't know you why you're acting like ppl can't have difference of opinion.
1. May you post a link for this?
You don't think the average man being physically more domineering than the average woman is the root oppression. **** like losing large amounts of blood monthly, pregnancies, and being smaller will put you in fairly vulnerable positions.
Suffering is a way of life w/o the extremes of the subject. I've scraped my knees, lost things I've cared about it, will likely see to my parents and grandmothers deaths. Suffering is absolute.
Some kid is getting raped atm. I don't want that to be, but it is happening and there is nothing I or you can do about it.
Should ppl granted the rights equality? Sure, but that's never happened and will never happen. We when we hunter gathers, if you didn't figure out a way to eat or protect yourself then you were assed out.
This is why I agree when they say comic books are our modern day myths and legends.