Scottie caught up in the moment.
Scottie caught up in the moment.
Originally Posted by RavageBX
Those are just the excuses ppl use to discredit dude. Joining up with Wade is the smartest thing he's done. I don't like it, but its smart. No one did it alone. Kobe, MJ, Magic, Kareem, Bird, all had top tier help. But you know that and so does everyone else, as much as ya'll deny it. And as for the rules changes, that also inconsequential. Back in the day good help was easy to find. Every good team had a starting 5 with talented to great players. Now you get 2 or 3 decent to talented players maybe and a couple serviceable role players. When Bron was in Cleveland he played with nothing but serviceable role players who he made look decent and was expected to win it all. The fact that he almost did it speaks volumes to his individual talent. But ppl continue to act like MJ would've won with that squad lol.Originally Posted by Ace Rawstein
I agree with some of this. but the bottom line is his "ways to go" is no longer achievable because: he took his talents to south beach x defensive rule changes x scoring ability
but remove all that its not out of the realm of possibility
Bottom line is anyone being objective will consider the totality of the circumstances when its all said and done, and not just whether rings were won.
Originally Posted by RavageBX
Those are just the excuses ppl use to discredit dude. Joining up with Wade is the smartest thing he's done. I don't like it, but its smart. No one did it alone. Kobe, MJ, Magic, Kareem, Bird, all had top tier help. But you know that and so does everyone else, as much as ya'll deny it. And as for the rules changes, that also inconsequential. Back in the day good help was easy to find. Every good team had a starting 5 with talented to great players. Now you get 2 or 3 decent to talented players maybe and a couple serviceable role players. When Bron was in Cleveland he played with nothing but serviceable role players who he made look decent and was expected to win it all. The fact that he almost did it speaks volumes to his individual talent. But ppl continue to act like MJ would've won with that squad lol.Originally Posted by Ace Rawstein
I agree with some of this. but the bottom line is his "ways to go" is no longer achievable because: he took his talents to south beach x defensive rule changes x scoring ability
but remove all that its not out of the realm of possibility
Bottom line is anyone being objective will consider the totality of the circumstances when its all said and done, and not just whether rings were won.
Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
Originally Posted by RavageBX
Those are just the excuses ppl use to discredit dude. Joining up with Wade is the smartest thing he's done. I don't like it, but its smart. No one did it alone. Kobe, MJ, Magic, Kareem, Bird, all had top tier help. But you know that and so does everyone else, as much as ya'll deny it. And as for the rules changes, that also inconsequential. Back in the day good help was easy to find. Every good team had a starting 5 with talented to great players. Now you get 2 or 3 decent to talented players maybe and a couple serviceable role players. When Bron was in Cleveland he played with nothing but serviceable role players who he made look decent and was expected to win it all. The fact that he almost did it speaks volumes to his individual talent. But ppl continue to act like MJ would've won with that squad lol.Originally Posted by Ace Rawstein
I agree with some of this. but the bottom line is his "ways to go" is no longer achievable because: he took his talents to south beach x defensive rule changes x scoring ability
but remove all that its not out of the realm of possibility
Bottom line is anyone being objective will consider the totality of the circumstances when its all said and done, and not just whether rings were won.
Rav...I agree with 99.9% of what you said, but you know that rings weigh heavily into the conversation...team sport or not. You're absolutely spot-on w. what you said though. Folks are so quick to discredit Lebron and they fail to realize that just about every NBA legend who has a ring, had help.
Lemme ask yall....what would it take for Lebron to be considered the GOAT? Are 7 rings the absolute benchmark???
Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
Originally Posted by RavageBX
Those are just the excuses ppl use to discredit dude. Joining up with Wade is the smartest thing he's done. I don't like it, but its smart. No one did it alone. Kobe, MJ, Magic, Kareem, Bird, all had top tier help. But you know that and so does everyone else, as much as ya'll deny it. And as for the rules changes, that also inconsequential. Back in the day good help was easy to find. Every good team had a starting 5 with talented to great players. Now you get 2 or 3 decent to talented players maybe and a couple serviceable role players. When Bron was in Cleveland he played with nothing but serviceable role players who he made look decent and was expected to win it all. The fact that he almost did it speaks volumes to his individual talent. But ppl continue to act like MJ would've won with that squad lol.Originally Posted by Ace Rawstein
I agree with some of this. but the bottom line is his "ways to go" is no longer achievable because: he took his talents to south beach x defensive rule changes x scoring ability
but remove all that its not out of the realm of possibility
Bottom line is anyone being objective will consider the totality of the circumstances when its all said and done, and not just whether rings were won.
Rav...I agree with 99.9% of what you said, but you know that rings weigh heavily into the conversation...team sport or not. You're absolutely spot-on w. what you said though. Folks are so quick to discredit Lebron and they fail to realize that just about every NBA legend who has a ring, had help.
Lemme ask yall....what would it take for Lebron to be considered the GOAT? Are 7 rings the absolute benchmark???
I dont think so.... but at least 4 chips to get the debate going...Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
Originally Posted by RavageBX
Those are just the excuses ppl use to discredit dude. Joining up with Wade is the smartest thing he's done. I don't like it, but its smart. No one did it alone. Kobe, MJ, Magic, Kareem, Bird, all had top tier help. But you know that and so does everyone else, as much as ya'll deny it. And as for the rules changes, that also inconsequential. Back in the day good help was easy to find. Every good team had a starting 5 with talented to great players. Now you get 2 or 3 decent to talented players maybe and a couple serviceable role players. When Bron was in Cleveland he played with nothing but serviceable role players who he made look decent and was expected to win it all. The fact that he almost did it speaks volumes to his individual talent. But ppl continue to act like MJ would've won with that squad lol.Originally Posted by Ace Rawstein
I agree with some of this. but the bottom line is his "ways to go" is no longer achievable because: he took his talents to south beach x defensive rule changes x scoring ability
but remove all that its not out of the realm of possibility
Bottom line is anyone being objective will consider the totality of the circumstances when its all said and done, and not just whether rings were won.
Rav...I agree with 99.9% of what you said, but you know that rings weigh heavily into the conversation...team sport or not. You're absolutely spot-on w. what you said though. Folks are so quick to discredit Lebron and they fail to realize that just about every NBA legend who has a ring, had help.
Lemme ask yall....what would it take for Lebron to be considered the GOAT? Are 7 rings the absolute benchmark???
I dont think so.... but at least 4 chips to get the debate going...Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
Originally Posted by RavageBX
Those are just the excuses ppl use to discredit dude. Joining up with Wade is the smartest thing he's done. I don't like it, but its smart. No one did it alone. Kobe, MJ, Magic, Kareem, Bird, all had top tier help. But you know that and so does everyone else, as much as ya'll deny it. And as for the rules changes, that also inconsequential. Back in the day good help was easy to find. Every good team had a starting 5 with talented to great players. Now you get 2 or 3 decent to talented players maybe and a couple serviceable role players. When Bron was in Cleveland he played with nothing but serviceable role players who he made look decent and was expected to win it all. The fact that he almost did it speaks volumes to his individual talent. But ppl continue to act like MJ would've won with that squad lol.Originally Posted by Ace Rawstein
I agree with some of this. but the bottom line is his "ways to go" is no longer achievable because: he took his talents to south beach x defensive rule changes x scoring ability
but remove all that its not out of the realm of possibility
Bottom line is anyone being objective will consider the totality of the circumstances when its all said and done, and not just whether rings were won.
Rav...I agree with 99.9% of what you said, but you know that rings weigh heavily into the conversation...team sport or not. You're absolutely spot-on w. what you said though. Folks are so quick to discredit Lebron and they fail to realize that just about every NBA legend who has a ring, had help.
Lemme ask yall....what would it take for Lebron to be considered the GOAT? Are 7 rings the absolute benchmark???
The reason ppl weigh rings so heavily is because ppl are short-sighted and have even shorter memories. Its easy to look back and say "this person won x amount of rings." It's WAY harder to look back at the totality of the circumstances and weigh it against what's going on today. No one wants to consider MJ's teammates and what they brought to the table. They just want to look back and say I remember how awesome MJ was and the fact that he won 6 rings so that's the end of the argument. Hell look at that video posted above from Bad Teacher. That is the mentality I'm talking about. "It's the only argument I need"Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
Originally Posted by RavageBX
Those are just the excuses ppl use to discredit dude. Joining up with Wade is the smartest thing he's done. I don't like it, but its smart. No one did it alone. Kobe, MJ, Magic, Kareem, Bird, all had top tier help. But you know that and so does everyone else, as much as ya'll deny it. And as for the rules changes, that also inconsequential. Back in the day good help was easy to find. Every good team had a starting 5 with talented to great players. Now you get 2 or 3 decent to talented players maybe and a couple serviceable role players. When Bron was in Cleveland he played with nothing but serviceable role players who he made look decent and was expected to win it all. The fact that he almost did it speaks volumes to his individual talent. But ppl continue to act like MJ would've won with that squad lol.Originally Posted by Ace Rawstein
I agree with some of this. but the bottom line is his "ways to go" is no longer achievable because: he took his talents to south beach x defensive rule changes x scoring ability
but remove all that its not out of the realm of possibility
Bottom line is anyone being objective will consider the totality of the circumstances when its all said and done, and not just whether rings were won.
Rav...I agree with 99.9% of what you said, but you know that rings weigh heavily into the conversation...team sport or not. You're absolutely spot-on w. what you said though. Folks are so quick to discredit Lebron and they fail to realize that just about every NBA legend who has a ring, had help.
Lemme ask yall....what would it take for Lebron to be considered the GOAT? Are 7 rings the absolute benchmark???
The reason ppl weigh rings so heavily is because ppl are short-sighted and have even shorter memories. Its easy to look back and say "this person won x amount of rings." It's WAY harder to look back at the totality of the circumstances and weigh it against what's going on today. No one wants to consider MJ's teammates and what they brought to the table. They just want to look back and say I remember how awesome MJ was and the fact that he won 6 rings so that's the end of the argument. Hell look at that video posted above from Bad Teacher. That is the mentality I'm talking about. "It's the only argument I need"Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
Originally Posted by RavageBX
Those are just the excuses ppl use to discredit dude. Joining up with Wade is the smartest thing he's done. I don't like it, but its smart. No one did it alone. Kobe, MJ, Magic, Kareem, Bird, all had top tier help. But you know that and so does everyone else, as much as ya'll deny it. And as for the rules changes, that also inconsequential. Back in the day good help was easy to find. Every good team had a starting 5 with talented to great players. Now you get 2 or 3 decent to talented players maybe and a couple serviceable role players. When Bron was in Cleveland he played with nothing but serviceable role players who he made look decent and was expected to win it all. The fact that he almost did it speaks volumes to his individual talent. But ppl continue to act like MJ would've won with that squad lol.Originally Posted by Ace Rawstein
I agree with some of this. but the bottom line is his "ways to go" is no longer achievable because: he took his talents to south beach x defensive rule changes x scoring ability
but remove all that its not out of the realm of possibility
Bottom line is anyone being objective will consider the totality of the circumstances when its all said and done, and not just whether rings were won.
Rav...I agree with 99.9% of what you said, but you know that rings weigh heavily into the conversation...team sport or not. You're absolutely spot-on w. what you said though. Folks are so quick to discredit Lebron and they fail to realize that just about every NBA legend who has a ring, had help.
Lemme ask yall....what would it take for Lebron to be considered the GOAT? Are 7 rings the absolute benchmark???
I don't think he's saying that Bron has accomplished more. I think he's saying Bron is greater as far as overall ability.Originally Posted by AIRJORDAN JB23
C'mon Scottie...
LeBron is one of the most talented players to step on the court, but to say he's better in comparison to all that Jordan has done is really pushing it.
