Some Spidey talk real quick.
So tell me why I'm supposed to hate The Amazing Spiderman.
I saw it for the first time last week at a friend's house. Not bad. I mean, not great, not terrible. I dug it, but I remember when it came out there was all this talk about it being abysmal and "Don't even bother" and what not. That's not the reason I didn't see it, but I remember the harsh and loud criticisms.
Also saw the beginning of the next one, with Jamie Foxx. In fact, I saw all the way up to where Jamie Foxx is introduced on screen, when Spidey runs into him and Foxx goes "I'm nobody" and Spidey you to be my eyes and ears out here." Again, I remember the criticisms of this one were harsh and loud. Why? Seemed decent.
Lastly, what in all of effs is this NEW one?
I'm one of the ones that "ehhh'd" ASM1. Good, decent, not elite.
ASM2 however, to me, was the best Spiderman film we've seen. To me, that joint was outstanding. Perfect? No, could have used some rough edge work, but overall it was great imo.
The "new" one, is Marvel taking over finally. Starting with the cameo in Civil War, now they will bring him into the Marvel universe fully and not have him be a standalone hero like the previous five films. Now hes just "one of" a world filled with superheroes.
And as you knoe, Marvel doesn't miss. They're likely to put good money into the look and feel of Spiderman comics while also tying into their larger universe. In the preview, the scene of him trying to hold that ship together already looks like one of my favorite scenes in the Marvel-verse. Just beautiful.
asm2 was so great they scratched the remaining movies, rebooted the franchise without garfield and made a pact with marvel. yea, greatest spiderman to date.
How is that relevant to my post where you bring up competition? You put that forward and I don't think that way so it's completely false. It has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
Look, if you don't think comments like "mankind over everything" and "if Dolphins become sentient, they better want to peacefully coexist or they're in trouble" don't imply some kind of us v. them (e.g. competitive) mentality
That's not competitive. Its clear as day. Those are definitive statements about them getting down or being wiped out. You know, if dolphins were sentient
or the Damn intelligent monkeys from the movie. Is the context lost on you?
Plus your taking statements about dolphins becoming sentient serious enough to interject that competition has anything to do with factual statements like mankind being the dominant species on the planet in the real world
One is a what if scenario, the other is a real world fact.
Why can't you see the distinction?
then I don't know what to tell you.
You're conflating two different things. You didn't talk about it being a competition with animals who are sentient intelligent beings like us. You were talking about competition with animals as they are now.
If you can't see the distinction, I don't know what to tell you.
To be clear though, if monkeys were as intelligent it would then be a competition. Hence the scenarios in these current planet of the Apes movies
I don't know how you can miss this. There's a difference between the real world and this fictional scenario. I never made any statements about killing regular monkeys or dolphins for the record
You also said that the Planet of the Apes movies "send the wrong message,"
This is my opinion.
which suggest the films bother you on some level.
I'm seeing a trend of you assuming too much. Could've just asked if this is what you were referring to. Its a leap to go from it sends the wrong message to this movie bothers me cuz of it's message but it is clearer you're missing the entire tone of my post and are actually taking the scenario where monkeys become intelligent as humans very seriously using the real world status quo as some sort of support.
I'm not just pulling stuff out of my *** here.
No. You're just assuming. I'd suggest you stop.
I'm responding to things you've written.
And interpreting them incorrectly.
But I know you can keep going all day on something like this, so I'm just going to concede. I'm done talking about this . . . whatever "this" has now become.
No need to make excuses or cast aspersions. If you don't want to reply anymore, don't.
@ w/e this has become. You're the one seriously weaving in and out of animals becoming sentient to animals as they are in the real world. You can't take my post about a movie, a sci-fi scenario and statements about monkeys and dolphins being sentient and then say reply with "if you want to view life on Earth as a continuing state of competition between man and other species of animals, sure, we're 'winning.'" That doesn't make sense.
You can't take a post about fictional monkeys and then say ".....animals will outlast us.... Bet on it"
Its ridiculous. You talked about a suspension of disbelief earlier but if your posts are to be taken seriously you're not showing any distinction between the real world and fiction
I'm talking about killing intelligent monkeys in a fictional scenario where they take over the planet and humanity is wiped out. You're talking about ppl who see our relationship to animals in the real world as a competition. I make another example about sentient dolphins and you're taking that again in the literal sense to what? Real dolphins? Actual competition with animals that aren't sentient? It pretty much goes on and on like that.
What the ****?
6.9/8 Will watch again.
