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Ricky Rubio is going to wear No. 9, if anyone cares:
* Offiical NBA Off-Season Thread: I'll give one of my damn kidney's for these Melo rumors to stop *
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Cleveland would be stupid to not take a S&T, what are they gonna do with capspace? no one is gonna sign there unless they are desperate to get paid.
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that better not happen.
and smh at the lakers actually wanting byron scott to coach... dude has conflict with the players he coaches. shaw>scott.
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[h1]Heat buys out James Jones, gains additional cap space[/h1]
By Ira Winderman South Florida Sun Sentinel
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if they did a sign and trade wouldnt that help the team they are doing sign and trades more than themselves??? come on now. say they signand trade bron to chi or mia....they just gonna allow them teams to have more cap room right???
why the #!%% would ANYONE help a team that is taking their franchise player away??? come on now.... yea im sure the cavs would just LOVE to have deng or beasley as the face of the franchise
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id easily take them over anyone on the cavs roster right nowOriginally Posted by NobleKane
if they did a sign and trade wouldnt that help the team they are doing sign and trades more than themselves??? come on now. say they signand trade bron to chi or mia....they just gonna allow them teams to have more cap room right???
why the #!%% would ANYONE help a team that is taking their franchise player away??? come on now.... yea im sure the cavs would just LOVE to have deng or beasley as the face of the franchise
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It's not about taking Deng or Beasley... It's about putting yourself in the best possible position to rebuild going forward...
You want Lebron? Fine... But we want a S&T and you're gonna take on Mo, or Varejao, or Boobie... Take the opportunity to get out from under those now. Bring in a couple more first round picks, and possibly a young, cheap, upside player in the process... It's about knowing you're gonna lose a guy anyways and making the most of it for your franchise going forward...
Maybe they don't lose LeBron, but if it gets to the point where its obvious he's leaving, they're stupid not to at least explore it...
You want Lebron? Fine... But we want a S&T and you're gonna take on Mo, or Varejao, or Boobie... Take the opportunity to get out from under those now. Bring in a couple more first round picks, and possibly a young, cheap, upside player in the process... It's about knowing you're gonna lose a guy anyways and making the most of it for your franchise going forward...
Maybe they don't lose LeBron, but if it gets to the point where its obvious he's leaving, they're stupid not to at least explore it...
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Finally the nets get rid of Yi..
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id easily take them over anyone on the cavs roster right nowOriginally Posted by Steve Cash
if they did a sign and trade wouldnt that help the team they are doing sign and trades more than themselves??? come on now. say they signand trade bron to chi or mia....they just gonna allow them teams to have more cap room right???
why the #!%% would ANYONE help a team that is taking their franchise player away??? come on now.... yea im sure the cavs would just LOVE to have deng or beasley as the face of the franchise
Yea I really dont understand your point Noble. Nowitness explained it perfectly. That would be my thought process. No way Id take Varejao if I was any team though. That will haunt the Cavs for years to come. That is the single reason why I think Danny Ferry should have been fired.
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What it's really about, is, Lebron, you want to leave us, and leave 30M on the table, then, go ahead, but we ain't doing you no favors.
When one of the biggest names in your sport, and the face of your city might walk away, you don't want to put it out there that they're going to accomodate him. It'd just give Bron incentive to walk away, since he'd get the max.
By saying what they're saying, the Cavs are doing the most they can do under the circumstances.
Toronto has come out and said they'd welcome a S&T with Bosh, because they feel he's probably gone. Lebron probably is gone too, but the difference is, Lebron has so many personal ties to Cle (plus the Cavs have been one of the better teams in the league winning-wise) that he might just stay. Therefore, no need to say they'd welcome a S&T concerning Bron.
When one of the biggest names in your sport, and the face of your city might walk away, you don't want to put it out there that they're going to accomodate him. It'd just give Bron incentive to walk away, since he'd get the max.
By saying what they're saying, the Cavs are doing the most they can do under the circumstances.
Toronto has come out and said they'd welcome a S&T with Bosh, because they feel he's probably gone. Lebron probably is gone too, but the difference is, Lebron has so many personal ties to Cle (plus the Cavs have been one of the better teams in the league winning-wise) that he might just stay. Therefore, no need to say they'd welcome a S&T concerning Bron.
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Article on the latest cap numbers
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In the last week we've seen a number of teams essentially give away valuable players in an attempt to clear more cap space to sign LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and/or Chris Bosh.
On Thursday, the Chicago Bulls agreed to trade Kirk Hinrich, the 17th pick in the draft and cash to the Washington Wizards to reduce to clear an extra $9.5 million off their books.
The Miami Heat traded away Daequan Cook and the 18th pick in the draft to Oklahoma City to clear an extra $3 million in room. Then, on Tuesday, the Heat bought out James Jones' contract, reducing his cap number from 4.65 million down to $1.5 million.
The New Jersey Nets responded on Tuesday by trading Yi Jianlian and cash to the Wizards for Quinton Ross. The trade gives the Nets another $3 million in cap space to play with this summer.
The Nets and Bulls are trying to get enough cap space to lure two "max" free agents to their team this summer. The Heat are trying for the magic trifecta, three "max" free agents. Currently only the New York Knicks have enough space to bring in two max free agents.
The Heat, Bulls and Nets will have to clear even more cap space, however, to achieve their goals. LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and others are projected to earn $16.6 million in first-year salaries. So a team would need $33.14 million under the cap to sign two max-contract free agents. The Heat would need a little more than $49 million to sign three max free agents. The Nets, Heat and Bulls are close, but they aren't there yet.
Here's the latest projection of what each team will have in salary cap space per a source in the NBA who is working off the NBA's projected data, included a $56.1 million cap. NBA teams won't know the actual cap figure until July 7th.
Note: The Heat's projected space assumes that they re-sign Dwyane Wade to a maximum contract
New York Knicks: $34.17 million
New Jersey Nets: $29.99 million
Chicago Bulls: $29.17 million
Miami Heat: $27.13 million
Los Angeles Clippers: $16.83 million
Sacramento Kings: $15.35 million
Minnesota Timberwolves: $13.44 million
Oklahoma City Thunder: $12.33 million
Washington Wizards: $7.18 million
On Thursday, the Chicago Bulls agreed to trade Kirk Hinrich, the 17th pick in the draft and cash to the Washington Wizards to reduce to clear an extra $9.5 million off their books.
The Miami Heat traded away Daequan Cook and the 18th pick in the draft to Oklahoma City to clear an extra $3 million in room. Then, on Tuesday, the Heat bought out James Jones' contract, reducing his cap number from 4.65 million down to $1.5 million.
The New Jersey Nets responded on Tuesday by trading Yi Jianlian and cash to the Wizards for Quinton Ross. The trade gives the Nets another $3 million in cap space to play with this summer.
The Nets and Bulls are trying to get enough cap space to lure two "max" free agents to their team this summer. The Heat are trying for the magic trifecta, three "max" free agents. Currently only the New York Knicks have enough space to bring in two max free agents.
The Heat, Bulls and Nets will have to clear even more cap space, however, to achieve their goals. LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and others are projected to earn $16.6 million in first-year salaries. So a team would need $33.14 million under the cap to sign two max-contract free agents. The Heat would need a little more than $49 million to sign three max free agents. The Nets, Heat and Bulls are close, but they aren't there yet.
Here's the latest projection of what each team will have in salary cap space per a source in the NBA who is working off the NBA's projected data, included a $56.1 million cap. NBA teams won't know the actual cap figure until July 7th.
Note: The Heat's projected space assumes that they re-sign Dwyane Wade to a maximum contract
New York Knicks: $34.17 million
New Jersey Nets: $29.99 million
Chicago Bulls: $29.17 million
Miami Heat: $27.13 million
Los Angeles Clippers: $16.83 million
Sacramento Kings: $15.35 million
Minnesota Timberwolves: $13.44 million
Oklahoma City Thunder: $12.33 million
Washington Wizards: $7.18 million
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ive been looking for this thread and had no idea it was a sticky
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But this is a business. They can't afford to catch feelings like some broad. They don't have to come out publicly and say we'll help a S & T, but they can at least contact whatever teams Bron is flirting with and when the time comes, sit down and make a deal happen.
To sit back and watch a 25 year old go in his prime at the top of his game, FOR NOTHING, is NOT how you run a business.
They're screwed either way, this is the less way to be screwed however.
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Good move by the Nets. We free up cap space & get rid of a player who has been dissapointing.
He's shown some nice flashes here & there... He just couldn't stay consistant or healthy.
He's shown some nice flashes here & there... He just couldn't stay consistant or healthy.
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I hope
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The funniest thing to me about this entire situation is that someone is going to give Joe Johnson, Amare Stoudemire, and maybe Carlos Boozer a max contract. Whoever strikes out on the Big 3 is going to have to spend all that money on someone and it's just
that those guys will be getting max money.
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Here are my official predictions for this crazy free agent madness...
Dwayne Wade - max deal with HEAT
Chris Bosh - HEAT
Amare Stoudamire - CLIPPERS, yeah I said Clippers. Dude is young and dumb and wants to be in LA
Lebron James - KNICKS, ya boy! Curry coming off the books next year will bring Melo... just wait
Dirk Nowitzki - KNICKS
Joe Johnson - BULLS, very dangerous team
Carlos Boozer - BULLS
Rudy Gay - NETS
David Lee - NETS, not bad on paper now with devin, gay, lee, lopez and favors
MAVERICKS - clear cap and sign Durant next year
Dwayne Wade - max deal with HEAT
Chris Bosh - HEAT
Amare Stoudamire - CLIPPERS, yeah I said Clippers. Dude is young and dumb and wants to be in LA
Lebron James - KNICKS, ya boy! Curry coming off the books next year will bring Melo... just wait
Dirk Nowitzki - KNICKS
Joe Johnson - BULLS, very dangerous team
Carlos Boozer - BULLS
Rudy Gay - NETS
David Lee - NETS, not bad on paper now with devin, gay, lee, lopez and favors
MAVERICKS - clear cap and sign Durant next year
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This @%!# is already ridiculous.
I wish LeBron had a Twitter right now
I wish LeBron had a Twitter right now
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Basically... I don't care how you wanna look at it... Letting an asset like LeBron James just walk away and get NOTHING out of it because you don't 't want to do him any favors is bad business.
If he's gonna leave, you're screwed regardless. Might as well do yourself the favor of getting out of one or two of those contracts and acquiring future assets (young player, picks?) on the way out.
I wouldn't take on Luol Deng or Michael Beasley. No reason to. Just as an example because it's the easiest one off hand, the Mavericks could damn near take on Boobie, Andy, and Mo with a combination of Dampier, Caron, Stevenson, trade exception, Barea and Roddy Beaubois... Throw in two draft picks and the Cavs are in SIGNIFICANTLY better shape than they'd be with those guys AND no LeBron... Not saying that's an easy decision or something you absolutely jump at, but it's something you have to at least think about if you concede that you're just not going to be able to keep LBJ around, isn't it?
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Originally Posted by franchise3
@ heat
had to break it down to Ken Berger on Twitter about Jones
What Ken didn't know was I've been doing MAD research so he didn't think I could break it down.
1 point to NT.com poster h3at23
0 points to CBS.com reporter Ken Berger
