* Offiical NBA Off-Season Thread: I'll give one of my damn kidney's for these Melo rumors to stop *
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jpzx
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Of course some Knick fan overreacts.
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I would rather take Favors over Wes and get a SF elsewhere. I honestly see Favors being possibly the best player out the draft. And its not like Twill wasnt taken in the lottery last yr for them.
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I would rather take Favors over Wes and get a SF elsewhere. I honestly see Favors being possibly the best player out the draft. And its not like Twill wasnt taken in the lottery last yr for them.
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How did Proshares overreact?
He sarcastically commented on you bringing up NY.
Anytime someone brings up the wise and mighty David Kahn or Minny's stockpiling of PGs, you come back with an essay. It's pointless right now, Jalen Rose hasn't said anything groundbreaking, we've heard nothing but "sources" and rumors for months.
He sarcastically commented on you bringing up NY.
Anytime someone brings up the wise and mighty David Kahn or Minny's stockpiling of PGs, you come back with an essay. It's pointless right now, Jalen Rose hasn't said anything groundbreaking, we've heard nothing but "sources" and rumors for months.
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No overreacting, just being sarcastic.
My 5 paragraph essay putting a positive spin on it is being worked on.
Make sure you spell check that @#$%
I mean, the Lakers must not like me if they thinkin about gettin TMac. Come on damn it, I can only take so much.
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I'll be happy to get out of this draft with Derrick Favors if that is indeed how it ends up.
Rubio to Favors would be a nice duo for the next 5-10 years, assuming Rubio is on the roster.
Rubio to Favors would be a nice duo for the next 5-10 years, assuming Rubio is on the roster.
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Would Favors wanna go to Minnesota after they trashed him after his workout?
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Nah
Both Kahn and Favors' agent seemed to rip Adrian Wojnarowski (the guy who wrote/said Kahn trashed Favors)
This was after that report came out:
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It was the media
Kahn was very complimentary of the kid outside of the "he's out of shape" comment
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So where is Love then? I think we need a true 4 and 5. I'd would go with Love/AL at the 4 then have Darko/Cousins at the 5. The wolves can't win with two undersized guys in the frontcourt. And yes I'm a strong supporter of bringing back Darko for next season and Pekorvic I have no clue maybe he can be a plug in guy.
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If we draft Favors I think you trade Al. Favors is an athletic post and Love is the exact opposite, which is why I think they'll be able to play together. Then you trade Jefferson for a proven and/or up and coming wing.
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Are you saying having both Love AND Al with Darko AND Cousins, or either one at each position? Because that leaves a big logjam and guys aren't going to be happy.
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Draft Favors but other teams can lowball Minny for Al because of injuries and they know they want to unload him.
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Might have already been posted, but just read orlando might be interested in trading for CP3. Rumor has it that they have offered both jameer and VC as players they'd be willing to send off. Just imagine CP3 and D-12 on the same squad
ESPN Insider is breaking down what every team in the league could -- and should -- do during the most anticipated offseason in NBA history. Ric Bucher and Chris Broussard have separated the league into six groups based on everything from cap room to organizational philosophy.
First up: the big spenders -- the Knicks, Nets, Bulls and Heat.
[h3]New York Knicks[/h3]
by Chris Broussard
Objective: Land two top-notch free agents who will make them an immediate contender in the Eastern Conference.
Assets: $34.1 million in cap space and two second-round picks (Nos. 38 and 39).
The plan: The priority is to sign LeBron James and Chris Bosh. Of the available free agents, LeBron wants to play with Bosh most, and vice versa. That's the biggest advantage the Knicks have going for them: They're the only team that can sign both players to maximum-salaried deals outright.
But who would play alongside those two stars in New York? Right now, the Knicks have only Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, Toney Douglas and Eddy Curry under contract. That means they'll have to sign more than six players to minimum-salaried contracts just to fill out the roster. The Knicks hope that if they land James and Bosh, other quality free agents would be willing to give up cash for a title shot. But players aren't going to take less money to play in New York, especially with a new collective bargaining agreement that's likely to be unfavorable for the players coming down the pike. And that lack of depth likely will lead James and Bosh to sign elsewhere.
A more realistic scenario may be signing Amare Stoudemire and Joe Johnson. Both flourished under Knicks coach Mike D'Antoni in the past, and while they wouldn't bring promise of a championship, they'd immediately make the Knicks a relevant playoff team and give the team a foundation upon which to build.
Alternative advice: Some say that if the Knicks don't get James or Dwyane Wade, they should save their money to make a run at some big names next summer. With Curry's contract set to expire, the Knicks could have more cap room in 2011, when players such as Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Durant, Aaron Brooks and Al Horford could be free agents.
Even if the Knicks don't add a big-name free agent or two, they'll be in position to improve their team by virtue of their cap room, which they can use to make financially lopsided trades. The Knicks should look into persuading a cash-strapped club like New Orleans to send Chris Paul to New York to dump salary, especially because the prevailing thought around the league is that Paul will eventually leave the Hornets via free agency and that the Hornets already have a cheap but effective replacement in Darren Collison.
Or, if the Knicks sign Johnson and either Stoudemire or Carlos Boozer, they may want to start monitoring Gilbert Arenas' situation in Washington. If Arenas plays well during the first half of the 2010-11 season, showing no lingering issues from his various knee injuries, the Knicks could trade Curry's expiring contract and a few other pieces (to make the money work) for Arenas, who is unlikely to be a long-term fit with John Wall, the Wizards' probable No. 1 pick. Arenas, who just turned 28 years old, would be a great fit in D'Antoni's system, and his charismatic personality would play well in New York.
[h3]New Jersey Nets[/h3]
by Chris Broussard
Objective: Make an immediate splash in free agency to jump-start new owner Mikhail Prokhorov's bid to not only take over the New York metro area but also turn the Nets into a global power.
Assets: $26.8 million of cap space and picks No. 3, 27 and 31 in the draft.
The plan: With Prokhorov claiming that the Nets will win a title within five years, they're thinking bigger than ever. That means they're targeting LeBron, too.
Like the Knicks, the Nets will try to sell James on the off-the-court benefits of being in the New York metropolitan area, as well as their impending move to Brooklyn, where he could take over the city. But unlike the Knicks, the Nets have much more to offer.
In addition to the benefits of accessing the global market off the court via the Russian-born Prokhorov, on the court the Nets are already blessed with solid talent, starting with onetime All-Star point guard Devin Harris and 19-point, nine-rebound center Brook Lopez. Plus, they'll add a solid player in Thursday's draft. Some would argue that's already more talent around LeBron than he's had in Cleveland, where he won 127 regular-season games in the past two seasons. All that, and the Nets still would have $10 million to sign another free agent or two. Ray Allen would be in the mix.
Alternative advice: Although the above plan looks nice in theory, the Nets aren't the favorites to get LeBron. So, in the likely event that they don't get him, why not go after David Lee or Carlos Boozer? Lee has proved he can be a double-double guy without having plays run for him, which would work well with Harris and Lopez as the primary scoring options, while Boozer is a legit 20-10 guy. The Nets could then draft Wesley Johnson at small forward (if Evan Turner doesn't fall to them) and still retain roughly $15 million to spend next summer.
[h3]Chicago Bulls[/h3]
by Ric Bucher
Objective: Add inside and outside scoring threats.
Assets: $20.5 million in cap space and the No. 17 pick in the draft.
The plan: Other than LeBron, Hawks free agent Joe Johnson appears to be their next choice among perimeter scorers, which is understandable; his range (deep) and personality (quiet) would create space for Derrick Rose to penetrate without creating a conflict in leadership. If Atlanta agrees to a sign-and-trade -- with Kirk Hinrich the principal piece going back to the Hawks -- the Bulls would have enough cap room to sign a low-post threat (Boozer or Bosh) in addition to landing Johnson.
Alternative advice: There's no need to rush into picking up a low-post threat if it means overpaying for one, and there's a good chance of that happening this year. It would be better to add a few more shooters via free agency -- Kyle Korver, Channing Frye -- who can space the floor and let Rose do the rest, scoring in the paint off penetration. It wouldn't hurt to add some experienced size and toughness on the front line; both Heat power forward Udonis Haslem and Mavs center Brendan Haywood are free agents, and word is Haywood wants to return to the Eastern Conference.
[h3]Miami Heat[/h3]
by Chris Broussard
Objective: Add one or two stars to play alongside Dwyane Wade.
Assets: $23.9 million worth of cap space and four draft picks (Nos. 18, 41, 42 and 4.
The plan: Imagine James, Wade and Bosh playing together. It's not likely, but it could happen. If the three stars sit down and say, "Let's form a 'Big Three' that would dwarf the one in Boston," and were willing to take a little less money to do so, you'd have a surefire dynasty. And that's certain to be Heat president Pat Riley's pitch.
The three players could max out at $16.5 million each in the first year of their upcoming contracts. But if each guy agrees to start out at $13.5 million, they could be teammates for the next five years. As for the rest of the team, remember that no one thought Rajon Rondo, Kendrick Perkins, Eddie House and Glen Davis would be enough of a supporting cast.
Alternative advice: As fetching as the above scenario may be, it's a long shot. A more realistic scenario starts with re-signing Wade. The Heat still could sign Bosh outright, too, then add a shooter such as Ray Allen, Anthony Morrow or J.J. Redick with the remainder of the money. Morrow or Redick would come cheaper than Allen, so why not go after one of them and point guard Kyle Lowry?
Chris Broussard and Ric Bucher are senior writers for ESPN The Magazine.
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I don't see the CP3 to Orlando happening, not with that package at least.
I really just don't imagine they trade Paul. Whether or not they should or shouldn't for the right package, I don't see it happening unless Paul demands it. Plus, I don't see them wanting a PG in return when Darren Collison proved his value last season... AND I imagine they would try to package a bad contract along with CP3 as well. If the team does want to depart with Paul, then they need to add Okafor and get back a boat load of young players and picks.
I really just don't imagine they trade Paul. Whether or not they should or shouldn't for the right package, I don't see it happening unless Paul demands it. Plus, I don't see them wanting a PG in return when Darren Collison proved his value last season... AND I imagine they would try to package a bad contract along with CP3 as well. If the team does want to depart with Paul, then they need to add Okafor and get back a boat load of young players and picks.
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T-Mac on the Lakers would be depressing for me. Sure he will get out of the first round and possibly win a ring off the bench, but I would have to deal with Lakers fans who hate me already on NT. Good thing they usually don't show up in these kinds of threads.
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I meant either one starting. I don't see why we take favors, if Wes Johnson is gone then I think we take Cousins and let Darko walk or which will unlikely happen is tell Cousin to come off the bench until he learns the triangle. I think him and Rambis could bump heads all season. I personally don't see why we should plug more guys in the front court.
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so if minny drafts Favors then love is going to play C?
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Originally Posted by EDWeeNO
Might have already been posted, but just read orlando might be interested in trading for CP3. Rumor has it that they have offered both jameer and VC as players they'd be willing to send off. Just imagine CP3 and D-12 on the same squad
just imagine being eliminated in the second round. that team would be terrible. just howard and paul and nothing else on that team... you trade 2 starters for 1. you really become warriors east after that trade...
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Love playing C... yikes.
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Comon' we have seen this for years, one team will offer Brown & Farmer a contract offer way overpriced. We see this all the time
