Official Umar Johnson Thread

[Present]

The Vybz Kartel bleaching thing is a bit overstated. It's a bunch of outsiders looking in and don't really understand the context of why he did It and think he did just for the sake of "lightening his skin". At the time that he did it, he was somewhat of an outcast to the domestic dancehall scene. He had just split from a large conglomerate and went against them(verbally and physically). Public opinion on him was "he isn't good enough compared to Spragga, Bounty, Mavado, etc.) He was young and upcoming. Very talented. Actually was a better lyricist and use to write for some of the aforementioned and more, however, public perception is everything.

His career hit a bit of a standstill after the split, so he began doing a lot to garner public attention. He started his own record label to rival the one he split from. He got a number of tattoos all over which was considered taboo. Free Mason Rings etc. Eventually, he bleached his skin. Unfortunately, many didn't see the skin bleaching thing for what it was(another gimmick.) Kartel leaned into it to feed his unapologetic persona because he started to garner tons of attention cause people started to check on his music even more becoming the hottest artist both domestically and internationally. The darker skin photo P Present posted is actually more recent than the skin bleaching photo. He stopped bleaching his skin. Unfortunately, many of the youth from that time(15 or so years ago) picked it up and made skin bleaching a way of life.

As an American, I appreciate you sharing this.

I was into the whole wave Deva Bratt, Popcaan, Gaza Slim and such... until the skin bleaching thing.

As talented as Vybz Kartel is, once that happened all I could hear was...

 

[fluid hips]

If Vybz wanted publicity he should've just dyed his hair rainbow like 69 or worn skirts like these rappers do to get a buzz

 

[Present]

Pardon the off topic but

Dancehall GOAT:

 

[tomdiginson]

As an American, I appreciate you sharing this.

I was into the whole wave Deva Bratt, Popcaan, Gaza Slim and such... until the skin bleaching thing.

As talented as Vybz Kartel is, once that happened all I could hear was...

Yeah man,, that was probably one of the interesting points of dancehall. Cats were running around buying CDs to hear the latest Kartel and Mavado. I met Mavado the summer before he blew up.

Pardon the off topic but

Dancehall GOAT:

It's a shame he got himself locked up during his twilight years.

 

[Nouss]

 

[deusavertat]

Apparently it's taboo to share a tooth brush with someone your have shared SEVERAL bodily fluids with.

 

[layziegunts]

Too much explanation. Dope artists. I love Jamaica. I love the Caribbean. I love all the islands. From St. Croix to Trinidad…


… but ain’t no way around bleaching. That’s self hate

Jamaicans, Haitians, some Africans been bleaching wellll before Vybz starting. Ain’t nothing you can say to excuse that phenomenon.

no one is excusing it, but it doesnt take away from his musical abilities

 

[layziegunts]

GOAT for what? Dancehall? If so, I may have to agree. Mans is incarcerated and still putting out hits. He a little overhyped cause a riddim can come out and some other artist takes the riddim, but the bias will give it Kartel outright. But for the most part, he outclasses most. Hell, he took Neyo's Miss independent and turned it into a better song.

 

[datznasty]

as much as we make fun of him, he has absolute reason to be more than upset. I would venture to guess the PD deliberately sent black officers too just to further upset him. It's like 30 cops out there. Looking for alleged guns and drugs and finding books and Fila sandals

 

[Kinfolk]

Dr. Umar is gonna go crazy with the news of these new Jesse Lee Peterson allegations


Context:


Allegations: several of Peterson’s one-time friends allege that the pastor’s own personal life is rife with gay sexual relationships. Two of Peter’s former male associates came out in June with on-the-record interviews saying they engaged in sexual activities with him, while other men say he propositioned them. These allegations about the pastor—who in public is staunchly heterosexual—have ripped like an earthquake through the manosphere, prompting some of Peterson’s allies to abandon him and prompting one manosphere conference to ban him.

 

[kingfoamnyc]

Dr. Umar is gonna go crazy with the news of these new Jesse Lee Peterson allegations


Context:


Allegations: several of Peterson’s one-time friends allege that the pastor’s own personal life is rife with gay sexual relationships. Two of Peter’s former male associates came out in June with on-the-record interviews saying they engaged in sexual activities with him, while other men say he propositioned them. These allegations about the pastor—who in public is staunchly heterosexual—have ripped like an earthquake through the manosphere, prompting some of Peterson’s allies to abandon him and prompting one manosphere conference to ban him.

 

[Kinfolk]

I'm not giving these two 45 min of my time

Summary?

 

[DCAllAfrican]

 

[DCAllAfrican]

 

[fluid hips]

 

[Present]

Welp that didn't take long:

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[WASHED KING]

as much as we make fun of him, he has absolute reason to be more than upset. I would venture to guess the PD deliberately sent black officers too just to further upset him. It's like 30 cops out there. Looking for alleged guns and drugs and finding books and Fila sandals

I hate, absolutely hate the "smelled marijuana" just cause to search people.

It has been abused and misused time and time again.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

 

[htg designs]

Damn. Always keep a ***** in their place , huh.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

 

[VARNELL HILL]

 

[fluid hips]

They pulled out receipts on Keke

 

[RustyShackleford]

I didn't know Wallace was outchea living his best storm2006 long back loving life at one point

Damn

 

[osh kosh bosh]

tbh the only use of the N-word by a rapper ive found offensive is Doja Cat. Ain't ****

when she says "N ****** aint ****", you know she means it, it's coming straight from the heart.

 

[fluid hips]

tbh the only use of the N-word by a rapper ive found offensive is Doja Cat. Ain't ****

when she says "N ****** aint ****", you know she means it, it's coming straight from the heart.

That bish not a rapper. Just a confused negro