Yea, he does get a little extreme when expressing his opinions and it does give his philosophy a dark tinge but so did Aristotle and Nietzsche. Aside from how he's perceived by the left and right I think he has a very solid philosophy on a lot of current affairs.
Some of the things you stated as opinion are actually fact, at least for modern western civilization. I mean, statistically straight white males are on top of the "pecking order". Straight white males control most political and social issues right? I don't think he condones that I also don't feel he's using that to promote a false sense of superiority but its true, kinda sucks how the right uses that to promote their hateful and oppressive ideology.
I've never heard him threaten anyone with violence. In fact the contrary. I also don't think he's on a quest do demonize the left, his beef seems to be with the more radical views that make their way to politics and government. For example, I can care less if you want to be transgender but when you want to government to lawfully build restrooms for you, that's a serious social and political problem.
But yes it is a little extreme to make that comparison to white supremacy but again I don't think he's condoning nor promoting white supremacy. His words are taken largely out of context. I think he's mostly talking about "Humans" imposing their ideas and belief systems on other people through authoritarianism.
You sound like Sam Harris defending Charles Murray. Glossing over the vile parts of Peterson's philosophy to present him as more innocuous than he actually is. There is so much wrong with your assessment of him
-First, let me get to the point and say miss me with your transgender comment. That is not what transgender people are fighting for, to get bathrooms built. Even it was it would be laughable to call that a serious social and political problem. Transgender people want the legal protection to use the bathroom that aligns with their gender identity, secondly, transgender people what the full protection of US Civil Rights Laws, also that them being targets of sex crimes be taken more seriously. That is not a serious social and political problem, that is people asking for equality. It would cost society little to agree to these terms but instead, people tried to find reasons why this community was not worthy of protections we try to guarantee so many others. Gender neutral bathrooms existed before bathroom bills, and more have been created as a way to compromise with a community that is just asking for justice and a basic level of tolerance, and the others than see them as extending rights to people as some threat to their existence.
Peterson in his infinite buffoonery actually misunderstood the C-16. They thought and ranting on about saying that the government was going to mandate that someone had to call a transgender person by their desired pronouns or else they can be deemed hated speech and his lectures would now be illegal. Peterson labeled this Neo-Marxist and flew off the handle. The Prime Minister said that was not the case, legal analysts said that was not the case, the school administration he worked at said that it was not the case, the courts in Canada said that was not the case, and he still persisted. He was flat wrong about his assessment and instead of falling back, he peddled more of this "post-modern" "cultural Marxist" talking points against a bill he did not even comprehend properly.
Peterson was flat ******* wrong and has little to no point about transgender people beyond the strawman he created.
-Now you want to dismiss Peterson's displays of hypocrisy because they are Twitter, yet still, claim he has a point about the open sharing of an idea. So how come this fool was actually building a website where he plans to target professors, his colleagues, just because he disagrees with what they are teaching. He wanted to tell students to avoid the classes in hopes those professors and courses he removed. And this was seemingly payback for them being against his buffoonery regarding C-16. Again a law he misunderstood.
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...ssors-teaching-womens-and-ethnic-studies.html
Eventually the website would contain a list of “courses and professors and disciplines that should be avoided.”
He added that women’s, ethnic and racial studies “have to go, and the faster the better.”
Peterson said he is still debating on whether or not to launch the website.
So Mr. Open Exchange of an idea was ready to launch a harassment campaign against people he disagreed with.
-Secondly, I know straight white males are on top of the pecking order. Peterson thinks that threatening this is in some way dangerous. That women quest for gender quality or minorities quest for racial quality creates a tension that is bad. He thinks the problem with the left that they make everything about so-called "identity politics", and they create tribes. He puts the blame for our divide political state on the side fighting for gender quality, anti-poverty, and racial quality and rights those things off. He openly says that he thinks that everyone is oppressed in some way, so we should not worry about trying to make society more equitable. Even more equitable for the people living under the patriarchy, that don't have the protection of civil rights laws, and that seek racial justice. When we have so much research, shared experience and observable reality for some to conclude that white privilege exists, Peterson dismisses it as someone the cultural Marxist push, someone akin to the Soviets, something dangerous that might lead down the same road as those groups too.
https://player.fm/series/today-explained/jordan-peterson-explains-himself
I mean this dude is borderline delusional with this ****.....
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/style/jordan-peterson-12-rules-for-life.html
Why Men Murder
Mr. Peterson’s home is a carefully curated house of horror. He has filled it with a sprawl of art that covers the walls from floor to ceiling. Most of it is communist propaganda from the Soviet Union (execution scenes, soldiers looking noble) — a constant reminder, he says, of atrocities and oppression. He wants to feel their imprisonment, though he lives here on a quiet residential street in Toronto and is quite free.
“Marxism is resurgent,” Mr. Peterson says, looking ashen and stricken.
I say it seems unnecessarily stressful to live like this. He tells me life is stressful.
From the same article, we get this tidbit.....
“He was angry at God because women were rejecting him,” Mr. Peterson says of the Toronto killer. “The cure for that is enforced monogamy. That’s actually why monogamy emerges.”
Mr. Peterson does not pause when he says this. Enforced monogamy is, to him, simply a rational solution. Otherwise, women will all only go for the most high-status men, he explains, and that couldn’t make either gender happy in the end.
“Half the men fail,” he says, meaning that they don’t procreate. “And no one cares about the men who fail.”
I laugh because it is absurd.
“You’re laughing about them,” he says, giving me a disappointed look. “That’s because you’re female.”
But aside from interventions that would redistribute sex, Mr. Peterson is staunchly against what he calls “equality of outcomes,” or efforts to equalize society. He usually calls them pathological or evil.
He agrees that this is inconsistent. But preventing hordes of single men from violence, he believes, is necessary for the stability of society. Enforced monogamy helps neutralize that.
So society must ensure young men, keep in mind incels are seemingly mainly white, get partners to avoid violence. But that logic doesn't apply to women and racial minorities.
That's, ummmmm, privilege.
-It is funny you compare his darkness in his struggle political philosophy to Nietzsche
Because guess what other groups did that too...
https://www.vox.com/2017/8/17/16140846/alt-right-nietzsche-richard-spencer-nazism
So Peterson denies white privilege, calls people looking to educate and lessens gender and racial equalities extremist, thinks oppression doesn't really exist, but you can't see how he mirrors white supremacist?
-Slave owners loved "state rights" anti-federalist advocates
-Bigots and segregationist loved Barry Goldwater's libertarianism
-White Supremacist love Charles Murray's work
-Nativist and xenophobes love these "strong border" advocates
-Racist loved Milton Freidman advocating about tearing down the social safety net
You can further the idea and institution of white supremacy a ton without being a card-carrying member. Hell, you can do it a massive amount while verbally rebuking it.
Like I said, you sound like Sam Harris caping for Charles Murray, because you are presenting him as wall more innocuous than he is. Peterson is by all account a very capable in his field, but as an economist, sociologist, cultural anthropologist, marine biologist (with his stupid *** lobster ****), and political philosopher, dude is top shelf trash.
Dude is a struggle self-help guru and a white hotep that is finessing at a high level, and he his making suckas out of a lot of people.
