***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[ninjahood]

If the tax cut bill passes the way it is, blue states will definitely subsidize red sates more than they already do. That's not even up for debate.

on da contrary, red states subsidize high tax blue states because of da local tax deductions vs other low tax local states.

its gonna be easier to pass in da senate too cuz of less GOP senate representation in blue states to stop it.

 

[iamdef]

da entire bill...u haven't been made abreast of it b?

might wanna check it out.

Not asking for a full overview, asking you what are some of the terms that will definetly go through and the ones that won't/will need to be revised

 

[RustyShackleford]

sike.

tax brackets aren't budging much for upper class if at all.

and not when certain other states have super low local taxes?

"i can hear a sucking sound from NY to Florida".

So Republicans in New York are gonna vote to willingly raise taxes on their constituents? The exact opposite of what they promised. To give to the ultra rich also.

And I thought Trump promised across the board tax cuts. So another flip flop him I guess.

And I love how you are happy about a tax increase, just because you think liberal states will be hurt more.

I was right, everything for you comes down to pissing off liberals.

 

[getback]

So Republicans in New York are gonna vote to willingly raise taxes on their constituents? The exact opposite of what they promised. To give to the ultra rich also.

And I thought Trump promised across the board tax cuts. So another flip flop him I guess.

And I love how you are happy about a tax increase, just because you think liberal states will be hurt more.

Looney Tunes s**t

 

[ninjahood]

I wonder how many Republicans in affluent blue states are gonna vote to increase the taxes on the rich in their state.

many..new flash, no one feels bad for da rich due to Democrat political programing, so this bill effectively takes da "Republicans wanna give tax breaks to da rich" club away from Democratic taking points, all while being super pro business & growth.

 

[RustyShackleford]

many..new flash, no one feels bad for da rich due to Democrat political programing, so this bill effectively takes da "Republicans wanna give tax breaks to da rich" club away from Democratic taking points, all while being super pro business & growth.

Dis guy

 

[ninjahood]

Dis guy

WaPo already aired out da familiar talking point by issuing Pinocchio's...

standard deductions up double..

 

[rillo561]

Da spin is epic.

 

[RustyShackleford]

I love how Ninja thinks that the terms that are being discussed now, is the bill that will pass the Senate.

So precious

 

[elpablo21]

 

[RustyShackleford]

Da spin is epic.

Member when da border adjustment tax was gonna have Da Rust belt popping again.

Member? Ohhhh I member

 

[deuce king]

many..new flash, no one feels bad for da rich due to Democrat political programing, so this bill effectively takes da "Republicans wanna give tax breaks to da rich" club away from Democratic taking points, all while being super pro business & growth.

Bless your heart.

 

[ninjahood]

I love how Ninja thinks that the terms that are being discussed now, is the bill that will pass the Senate.

i dare em not to.

 

[iamdef]

i dare em not to.

*places this on record*

 

[RustyShackleford]

i dare em not to.

So you are actually predicting that nothing
will change with this proposal, nothing.

Or else what?

 

[Nike Jordan]

 

[EddieDoyers]

Small government doe

 

[everysingletime]

Media seems to be making a big deal of the democrats win in Virginia. It's being framed as the tide is turning for democrats

But didn't VA vote for Hilary anyway?

Seems like more of the status quo

 

[harlemtothebronx]

Media seems to be making a big deal of the democrats win in Virginia. It's being framed as the tide is turning for democrats

But didn't VA vote for Hilary anyway?

Seems like more of the status quo

The media is looking for anything to shift the narrative and tell a different story. I'm sure they're sick of reporting on Trump's tweets 20 hours out of the day.

It is a big win for democrats though, just not completely tide turning yet.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Media seems to be making a big deal of the democrats win in Virginia. It's being framed as the tide is turning for democrats

But didn't VA vote for Hilary anyway?

Seems like more of the status quo

The media is making a big deal because many thought Trumpism would make a return last night. They got is painfully wrong, so they want to act surprised.

But Northam is winning by like x3 the margin they thought he would, he washed ole boy in the burbs, and some local races tipped blue in ways people did not expect.

So while it doesn't say a ton about the midterms, the Dems going by history we're expect to have a good night, and they had a really good one.

 

[the qbz]

Donna brazile timing is weird for the drop but she is telling the truth

Schumer amd pelosi need to give up power and get the new blood in

Hilary should lay low for while.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Donna brazile timing is weird for the drop but she is telling the truth

Schumer amd pelosi need to give up power and get the new blood in

Hilary should lay low for while.

What are you even talking about fam.

Brazile's story has been exposed as hyperbole. And it is obvious the primary was not rigged. Donna is trying to sell a book

Pelosi and Schumer have nothing to do with the DNC

Hillary is in the woods walking her dogs mostly, listening to Dolph. Only people that care about her now are the ones that have a fetish for Clinton slander

 

[the qbz]

What are you even talking about fam.

Brazile's story has been exposed as hyperbole. And it is obvious the primary was not rigged. Donna is trying to sell a book

Pelosi and Schumer have nothing to do with the DNC

Hillary is in the woods walking her dogs mostly, listening to Dolph. Only people that care about her now are the ones that have a fetish for Clinton slander

I get she is trying to sell a book. But everybody new that hillary took over the dmc becuase they wanted to make history.

Schumer and Pelosi are tied to democrats and leadership

 

[the qbz]

Because brazille story is being blown up and hyper examimed .. To me it was weird .

 

[Belgium]

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/08/gag-order-issued-in-manafort-gates-case-244691
Judge issues gag order in Manafort, Gates case
The directive discourages statements to the media, but it doesn't ban them outright.

The federal judge overseeing the criminal case against former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and his associate Rick Gates has issued a gag order limiting comments to the media and the public by lawyers, defendants and witnesses in the case.

U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson's directive released Wednesday doesn't ban such statements outright, but prohibits any remarks that "pose a substantial likelihood of material prejudice to this case."


At a hearing last week, Jackson urged lawyers to make their arguments in court and "not on the courthouse steps." She also appeared to criticize a statement one of Manafort's lawyers made outside court calling the charges against his client "ridiculous."

"This is a criminal trial, and it's not a public relations campaign," the judge warned.

Jackson offered both defendants and the government a chance to weigh in about the order before she issued it. No one did.

Manafort and Gates — who also worked for a time as a top Trump campaign official — were arraigned last week in the first known indictment from Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into alleged Russian interference in the 2016 presidential race and the Trump campaign's potential complicity in that activity. Both men entered not guilty pleas.

The charges of money laundering and failing to register as foreign agents for the government of Ukraine don't have any direct relation to the Trump campaign, although prosecutors allege some actions aimed at covering about aspects of the scheme took place while the pair worked for Trump.

Former Justice Department prosecutor Peter Zeidenberg called the gag order an “appropriate” move in the Manafort case but still questioned its effect.

“It doesn’t apply to the president and he’s the one who’s going to be shooting off his mouth on this more than anyone else,” Zeidenberg said.

Jackson's order applies to "potential witnesses," but it's unclear how broadly that category would sweep.

That Manafort’s attorneys have to limit their public statements shouldn’t have much impact, Zeidenberg predicted.

“It’s not going to matter to a D.C. jury,” he said. “They’re trying to speak to a larger audience.”

Regardless of the order, Manafort supporters in conservative media will take up his side.

“They’ll get their version of events out that way,” the ex-prosecutor said.