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Wish someone would've thrown a shoe back at him like that Bush incident
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http://www.businessinsider.com/mana...campaign-about-russian-oleg-deripaska-2017-10
So Manafort offered access to Trump in exchange for debt forgiveness, huh?
So Manafort offered access to Trump in exchange for debt forgiveness, huh?
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I'm not letting the government take my shoes!!!!!
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I hate how it takes people’s tribe being impacted is what it takes for people to be fed up with someone who’s been a piece of **** since as far back as I can remember.
Famb.
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This seems like something straight out of an SNL skit designed to mock Trump's idea of handing out supplies.
Except it's actually real...
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Coates catching some blow back for this. Liberals hate hearing anything about race that isn't feel good optimism.
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Colbert seemed upset Coates would not indulge him.
White people all across the political spectrum, from socialist to far right seem upset at Coates for speaking so bluntly about racism. And letting no one off the hook.
White people all across the political spectrum, from socialist to far right seem upset at Coates for speaking so bluntly about racism. And letting no one off the hook.
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I know this is f'd up....but Trump got decent form
. Elbow in tight, guide hand in place and ****.
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Coates gave a very realist answer given the events that have unfolded over the past 12 months. It's hard not to be pessimistic about the hyper polarized current state of affairs when things have devolved into glorified tribalism
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Poor people waiting for something useful and dude is wasting time throwing paper towels. Pass out some food and water, ****er!
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I hate how Coates has become this racial therapist for white leftists. He's one of a few on that level that whites feel comfortable listening to.
And the thing about Coates stance on this is that it isn't new. He's just dipping into the well of Black thought to articulate his point. If it was up to whites, there wouldn't be any conversations
on race because they know they can't change this country without confronting themselves and whites hate having mirrors being put to their face; especially leftists. If they could, class would
be the only convo we have.
And the thing about Coates stance on this is that it isn't new. He's just dipping into the well of Black thought to articulate his point. If it was up to whites, there wouldn't be any conversations
on race because they know they can't change this country without confronting themselves and whites hate having mirrors being put to their face; especially leftists. If they could, class would
be the only convo we have.
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elpablo21
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elpablo21
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Private.....Server?
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These heartless people always preach about their strong Republican values that ruin lives for millions of good people while practicing the exact opposite in their personal lives.
-Anti-abortion, but trying to force mistresses to get abortions
-Anti-gays, but fondling and assaulting men in the restroom
-Anti-gay marriage, but having multiple affairs while preserving the "sanctity of marriage"
-Anti-healthcare rights, but having access to excellent healthcare that millions of ordinary people can't afford
-Anti gun control, but having visitors in their offices go through metal detectors and confiscating their weapons
-Anti-drugs, but funding narco-states overseas
-Anti-immigration, but reaping the benefits from the labor of minorities and foreigners
These people are directly responsible for everything wrong with this country today. Straight up subhuman
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no it's ok, the server at trump tower was installed by only the best russian tech guys
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they installed Kaspersky, don't worry.
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You've got liberals mixed with leftists. White liberals in media, entertainment, finance, tech all love to be told how racist America and then after enough time, 10, 20, 30 minutes, be told that everything will get better and that smart technocratic methods will clear up the whole misunderstanding that is racism.
Leftists, by contrast, share Coates' pessimism. We know that politics is the struggle of who gets what. We know that white supremacy is rooted in plunder rather than ignorance. We know that history consists of perpetual struggle.
When you know that our law courts, our economy and our foreign policy are all illegitimate, why not bring race into the conversation and remind everyone that America's past, present and future are built on tears and sweat and blond of people of color.
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The following is sincerely not directed at anyone in here.
My white leftist friends in real life and many in the media drive me up the wall with their "There is no race struggle, just a class struggle" nonsense.
While I do think leftist are right on a ton, they create these alt-fact talking points to defend their points, and establish their purity:
-Every white person that every fought for the right of a black person is always a leftist to them, because hey, leftist always look out for the black man, yet they talk about how great the New Deal was. And funny, now leftist mags have now resorted to a sneak rewrite of history to imply that the New Deal was not a compromise with racist.
-Besides single payer, their big policy goal is the expansion of unions back to there old levels. This is something I absolutely support for many reason, including civil rights reasons. However, they claim will help all workers of all races, yet they ignore that white union leaders often deny black workers membership, and some even coordinated with businesses to keep black workers out of jobs. So is it not a fair question to ask how fiercely would white leftist allow the DOJ to go after unions for civil rights violations? Like I want more unions, but not ones that discriminate and indulge in white supremacy.
My friends often have a tough time with this question. I get "umms", reassurances that of course civil rights laws will be fully enforced against even leftist political allies. The best one was someone telling me that neoliberals would use the DOJ and civil rights lawsuits to attack unions, and that we need to prevent this, because on the aggregate unions will help black people more that they would hurt. I nearly punched dude, but I decided to point out that it is comforting to know that he felt so at ease with compromising on the rights of minorities.
And their favorite alt-fact is blaming the center left and centrist for white folk fleeing the Democratic Party. This is nonsense. The Democratic Party didn't lose the white working man because it became the party of "neoliberalism", they lost them because they became the party of civil rights. They are also hostile to the liberal upper middle class (I have my own beefs with them, so I understand) but they use this to absolve, the self destructive, and callous behavior of white working class. The 2016 election was the magnus opus of trying to rewrite history...
In an attempt to absolve people that voted for a vile racist, specially in the Rust belt, they pedaled this nonsense of "economic anxiety", and complain about identity politics. Basically trying to repackage right wing attacks into some sort of valid complaint. Whether it is a conservative or a leftist saying it, I know what they are trying to say...........stop talking about **** for people of color so much, it upsets white people. And when you call them out on this, they partnered with centrist and moderates of the world to yell down objectors with the "don't you want to win? You know minorities will be ****** the most".
They basically took a legit suggestion of "focus on universal programs to attract the most voters" and said it in the most condescending way possible.
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The other offensive thing is anger they feel over the black voting block being aligned with the center left and not the far left. Like I ask my friends if you are trying to sugar coat the race issue, and appeal to white workers, why get upset if the center left out flanks to by address the concerns of these communities.
Lets remember, when the face of poverty was white the country had sympathy, when it turned black they couldn't care less. Then the face of drug epidemics, inequality, lack to access of healthcare, and the economic machine screwing up over the worker was black, it was business as usual. When it turned white, it was finally offensive to the country. While many white leftist acknowledge this, they still think just universal programs will do, and still indulge in nostalgia politics about times when things were better. Better for who, surely not minorities, obviously the implication is the working class white dude.
When I attack them on this point they pivot to an argument about purity. Centrist did this, liberals did that, dog whistle Obama doesn't really care about black people, and complain about always having to talk about the race issue. Even when I agree with them about the points they make it is always a pissing contest, always about purity, always about "well they do it too". Like I don't give a ****, I have my objections with tons of people, I'm objecting to your actions right now.
And at the root of it, this is the leftist problem with Coates. Coates call them on their BS, he points out their best laid plans will be undone by white supremacy. To think white supremacy will not adapt is foolish.
Back when he was talking about conservatives attacking black people, and the cowardice of the center left, everything was wavy. But now he is pointing out the undeniable fact that you can't address anything in this country, not even class, if you run away from the race issue.
This was not the conclusion they want to hear.
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My guy Rusty be writing books. You should get a PhD.
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Surprise:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell said on Tuesday that it was too soon to discuss “legislative solutions” to gun violence after Monday’s attack in Las Vegas in which 59 people were killed and more than 500 injured.
“I think it’s premature to be discussing a legislative solution,” McConnell told journalists. “I think it’s particularly inappropriate to politicize an event like this, which just happened in the last day and a half.”
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...gun-legislation-talks-premature-idUSKCN1C82D3
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell said on Tuesday that it was too soon to discuss “legislative solutions” to gun violence after Monday’s attack in Las Vegas in which 59 people were killed and more than 500 injured.
“I think it’s premature to be discussing a legislative solution,” McConnell told journalists. “I think it’s particularly inappropriate to politicize an event like this, which just happened in the last day and a half.”
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...gun-legislation-talks-premature-idUSKCN1C82D3
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it's been premature for decades now...
what a piece of **** that turtle is. history will remember all of this.
