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1 valuable lesson to be learned about skip bayless, when you ignore trolls is amazing how quickly they go aware

But Candace did try to pretend to be black for 2 secs when her and Ben Shapiro fell out

What did she do besides going on Breakfast Club? She said it was them that wanted her on there as she has been trying to go on there for years.
 
It’s amazing how so many of our elites have such little regard for the future.
If by elites you mean tech billionaires, they think about the future all the time.

It's just a future in which they won't have to share with the inferior masses.

 
If you feel like you need a bunker if society collapses you gotta be scum. :lol

Society could collapse and the last thing on my mind is I gotta hide because people will want ME dead.
 
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I feel bad for the normal people negatively impacted by those bible thumpers in states like OK. .

I do find some comfort being in this bubble in MA and others in the northeast and west coast should too.
 
I feel bad for the normal people negatively impacted by those bible thumpers in states like OK. .

I do find some comfort being in this bubble in MA and others in the northeast and west coast should too.
Red states/cities really think they got it made. I've heard and read multiple stories of midwest couples when traveling asking new yorkers and chicagoans do they leave their apratments due to crime? :lol:
The ignorance is crazy. They really think major blue cities are dystopian
 
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What did she do besides going on Breakfast Club? She said it was them that wanted her on there as she has been trying to go on there for years.

I only know about that interview and the circumstances.. but she did actually try to engage in the premise of being black and being a part of black culture within the convo.. didn’t go well, but at least she attempted

And then turned around and went right back to her safe space
 
I feel bad for the normal people negatively impacted by those bible thumpers in states like OK. .

I do find some comfort being in this bubble in MA and others in the northeast and west coast should too.
I’m in that bubble down here in Philly suburbs kind of, but damn it’s a small bubble. Would feel much better if it were statewide like New England states
 
That’s too generalized as well. As someone who grew up Catholic. There was a difference of when I went to a Polish church in Brooklyn as a kid and then attending a Jesuit run HS and when we had homilies done by Jesuits and how we were taught religion.

The church attendance as a child soured me so much towards religion that I stopped caring and was basically non practicing by the time I reached HS. Jesuits are progressive and accepting so it was just different. They didn’t scream or scolded you during mass.
I think I've only ever set foot in a church maybe 2 or 3 times at most. I went to a catholic elementary school but they offered a non-catholic class alternative so I demanded to not partake in any biblethumping. My parents weren't religious so they didn't have an issue with it.

I do have one good experience in a (white) catholic church that I can recall, which was my dad's 2017 funeral ironically. I wanted to just cremate him without a church ceremony but my aunt insisted that locals wanted a church funeral so I eventually complied.
I'm not sure how a church funeral normally goes but judging by the reactions from the elderly around me, the pastor was not exactly following proper protocol.
At some point the pastor asked for the goblet of wine to be brought to him and drank it. I'm guessing that's normally where that process ends.

This pastor not only drank the whole goblet in one go, he filled it up TWICE after that and chugged the whole thing every time. Not a word was said inbetween.
Took some effort to not smile when the elderly around me started going 'what is he doing...' etc :lol:
What made it even more ironic was that my dad drank himself to death, so the pastor downing a bottle of wine in the middle of a funeral was the icing on the cake.
 
This could be a good thing. I have a feeling they will start butting heads soon
Elon Musk has literally everything he could possibly want, yet he's nearing Trump levels of insecurity.
Unlike Trump he actually has a functioning brain so it's almost more pathetic that he spends his days desperately seeking validation on Twitter.
That's bound to cause some conflict sooner or later.
 
I think I've only ever set foot in a church maybe 2 or 3 times at most. I went to a catholic elementary school but they offered a non-catholic class alternative so I demanded to not partake in any biblethumping. My parents weren't religious so they didn't have an issue with it.

I do have one good experience in a (white) catholic church that I can recall, which was my dad's 2017 funeral ironically. I wanted to just cremate him without a church ceremony but my aunt insisted that locals wanted a church funeral so I eventually complied.
I'm not sure how a church funeral normally goes but judging by the reactions from the elderly around me, the pastor was not exactly following proper protocol.
At some point the pastor asked for the goblet of wine to be brought to him and drank it. I'm guessing that's normally where that process ends.

This pastor not only drank the whole goblet in one go, he filled it up TWICE after that and chugged the whole thing every time. Not a word was said inbetween.
Took some effort to not smile when the elderly around me started going 'what is he doing...' etc :lol:
What made it even more ironic was that my dad drank himself to death, so the pastor downing a bottle of wine in the middle of a funeral was the icing on the cake.


Yea not normal. It’s supposed to be a drop of wine in there too. I have some funny stories of when I was an alter server as a kid. The priests were usually hungover as **** and would drink whole bottles before mass to push back the hangovers.
 
Yea not normal. It’s supposed to be a drop of wine in there too. I have some funny stories of when I was an alter server as a kid. The priests were usually hungover as **** and would drink whole bottles before mass to push back the hangovers.
Given that this dude had the nerve to chug down what had to be roughly a bottle of wine during a funeral sermon, I'm pretty sure that's my local priest's morning ritual too :lol:
Really young for a pastor too, he was in his 30s.

I've literally never met a single person within 20 years of my age bracket that isn't either atheist or muslim, much less anyone who under the age of 60 who actually attends church.
 

Even a broken Grok is right twice a day.


Weird how rightwing “populists” always seem to leave the masses worse off.




Remember that a lot of reactionaries consider EVERYTHING they see on TV to be a deliberate cultural product of “the left.”

They picture Democratic politicians, activists, the HR department at their job, and the entire entertainment industry as one singular thing. A singular entity conspiring to make people not laugh at their 1990’s era jokes.

So when they complain about “the left,” they mostly are uncomfortable seeing queer and non white characters on TV. What they are actually asking for is for society to wholesale return to 1992 (when the media voter still had good knees).


BTW I do think that a lot of TV does suck. Most of the decline can be attributed to the proliferation of nepo babies, 3rd and four 4th generation in many cases.

Another factor is that mid tier writers used to do a workman like job and turn out respectable action flicks and raunchy comedies. Now, everyone is expected to grapple with big social questions and how it interacts with our protagonist’s inner most thoughts. Great writers can pull this off, but not everyone is David Simon.

There’s also an over reliance on lore and Easter eggs/other fan service, and it comes at the expense of story telling.

Lastly, CGI has sucked the life out of movies.


We need to fix those four things but keep the onscreen diversity. Trans and non white folks should be the lead in credulity straining action flicks and silly coming of age summer movies.

The morning after the election, I wrote:

“There’s going to be a lot of finger pointing over the coming days and months, and people will invariably seize the opportunity to claim that if only everyone had done exactly what they wanted, and centered their desires, we wouldn’t be in this mess. Some will unfairly scapegoat those on the margins, with relatively little individual or collective power, rather than issuing proportionate culpability to the majority of Trump supporters and enablers.”

That has certainly been on full display this week.

The Democratic Party has spent decades developing a brand as spineless, ineffectual, unprincipled and insincere. Ask a low information voter about Democrats, and they’ll describe a party that’s been captured by corporate interests, is fundamentally the same as their opponents, inevitably capitulates when push comes to shove, and only pays lip service to the issues that matter when it’s time to pander for votes. This is why so many people have found demands for “tangibles” appealing. They want instant gratification in exchange for their votes, not empty rhetoric and vague promises.

Trump did not run on unification or moderation. He ran on division, resentment, and retribution. The Trump “policy platform” is essentially the Joe Rogan diet: nothing but red meat and ketamine. He catered almost exclusively to his base. There was no post-convention shift to center. He closed with watermelon “jokes.”

Republicans can run on selfishness. They can run on tradition, not change. They naturalize inequality and hierarchy. They run on distrust in the very concept of collective governance and the public good. They cater to the most privileged and powerful. These are, sadly, structural advantages.

At a time when the Democratic coalition is fraying, when voters have grown impatient with being asked to wait years for investment in public works and green energy products to pay dividends or stave off future disaster, when they question the extent to which the party is actually committed to them beyond vote pandering and empty symbolism, when they’re fed up with their votes being taken for granted as soon as the primary season ends and Brat Summer turns into Triangulation Autumn, I cannot overstate how little interest I have in the tantrums of moderates who insist that they weren’t sufficiently centered.

Let them tell it, and liberals are snowflakes who need to stop policing others’ speech and attitudes. But also, we need to police their speech and attitudes in the hopes that we can properly pander to the least informed, least motivated, least reliable portion of the electorate.

What better way to win back faith in the concepts of equality and diversity than to demand the party throw its most vulnerable constituencies to the wolves?


If you’re driven to domestic terrorism by the “threat” of lady Ghostbusters and Black mermaids, the last thing you can credibly claim is that “people are making too big a deal about diversity.” Clearly, representation matters if the Marvel Cinematic Universe plunging from 80% White to 78% White is perceived as an existential crisis.

Likewise, I will not take seriously the demands of centrists to monopolize for themselves a party that relies on a diverse coalition to wrest control from an entrenched but dwindling supremacist plurality.

For all the talk of the dangers to sports and athletes, no mentions of:


On top of sports programs getting cut all the time
I think we can stop dignifying the fiction that trans panic really stems some deep concern for the integrity of historically underfunded women’s sports competitions.

At heart, high school sports are an after school club activity. The overwhelming majority of participants do not go on to become professional athletes, or even scholarship athletes. They learn teamwork and leadership skills. They develop self-confidence and resilience. They improve their physical fitness and learn productive training habits.

If you say that trans kids shouldn’t be allowed to participate, even if you think you aren’t doing so as part of a broader push to exile them from public life, you are demonstrably more concerned with the traditions of amateur competition than in the wellbeing of these students.
 
I’m in that bubble down here in Philly suburbs kind of, but damn it’s a small bubble. Would feel much better if it were statewide like New England states

Yeah Ive been to the Philly burbs (Phoenixville and King of Prussia area) quite a bit and it gets very bible beltish the further west you go. Almost creepy.
 
Elon Musk has literally everything he could possibly want, yet he's nearing Trump levels of insecurity.
Unlike Trump he actually has a functioning brain so it's almost more pathetic that he spends his days desperately seeking validation on Twitter.
That's bound to cause some conflict sooner or later.

Elon can't run for president, so this is the closest he can be to that position. He wants the one thing he can't have, and that Trump does have. He's basically a jealous high school girl.
 
Given that this dude had the nerve to chug down what had to be roughly a bottle of wine during a funeral sermon, I'm pretty sure that's my local priest's morning ritual too :lol:
Really young for a pastor too, he was in his 30s.

I've literally never met a single person within 20 years of my age bracket that isn't either atheist or muslim, much less anyone who under the age of 60 who actually attends church.

I would say the Polish community is mixed. The older population does still attend blindly. The generation in their 50s still does but doesn’t follow the religion much. They just like to appear religious. My generation 20-30% are agnostic/atheist like me, 30% don’t attend at all but consider themselves Catholic, the rest pretty much attend weekly but just to show up. They are usually the biggest hypocrites. But the agnostic/atheist piece is growing higher and higher every year as people hate how the Polish Catholic Church is trying to dig their paws deeper and deeper into the government there.
 
Red states/cities really think they got it made. I've heard and read multiple stories of midwest couples when traveling asking new yorkers and chicagoans do they leave their apratments due to crime? :lol:
The ignorance is crazy. They really think major blue cities are dystopian

I live in Florida but have am originally from Minneapolis. I regularly get asked how my family in Minneapolis is doing after the “the city was destroyed. “ It even comes from well meaning liberals sometime too. It is insane what suburban people will believe about cities.

I think I've only ever set foot in a church maybe 2 or 3 times at most. I went to a catholic elementary school but they offered a non-catholic class alternative so I demanded to not partake in any biblethumping. My parents weren't religious so they didn't have an issue with it.

I do have one good experience in a (white) catholic church that I can recall, which was my dad's 2017 funeral ironically. I wanted to just cremate him without a church ceremony but my aunt insisted that locals wanted a church funeral so I eventually complied.
I'm not sure how a church funeral normally goes but judging by the reactions from the elderly around me, the pastor was not exactly following proper protocol.
At some point the pastor asked for the goblet of wine to be brought to him and drank it. I'm guessing that's normally where that process ends.

I’m sorry you had such a negative experience at such an important time and that the leaders of that church dropped the ball for you and your family. Using this as an example to show that Christianity is bad comes across fairly ignorantly. I wish the Catholic Church would get it together so people would stop judging Christianity based on it. Evangelicals are Protestants, not Catholics. Typically when people talk about “bible thumpers” they are talking about evangelicals. The catholic church could certainly stand to do some bible thumping. It would prevent many negative experiences like this.
 
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I’m not sure what negative point you are trying to make about Christianity, but it wreaks of ignorance. I wish the Catholic Church would get it together so people would stop judging Christianity based on it. Evangelicals are Protestants, not Catholics. Typically when people talk about “bible thumpers” they are talking about evangelicals. The catholic church could certainly stand to do some bible thumping
You think the Catholic Church is what people judge Christianity on?
 
You think the Catholic Church is what people judge Christianity on?
Sometimes it is. In this instance, a priest (not a pastor) is being used to paint a negative image of Christianity as a whole, and has appeared to shape one individual’s view of Christianity pretty strongly.

I’m not going to get sucked into a strawman argument on this. Lots of things shape people’s views of Christianity but a lot of these similar stories revolve around experiences in the Catholic church.
 
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