***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[rexanglorum]

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/thousands-rally-against-hungarys-overtime-work-law-pm-orban-idUSKCN1OZ0GE/

Weird how rightwing “populists” always seem to leave the masses worse off.




Remember that a lot of reactionaries consider EVERYTHING they see on TV to be a deliberate cultural product of “the left.”

They picture Democratic politicians, activists, the HR department at their job, and the entire entertainment industry as one singular thing. A singular entity conspiring to make people not laugh at their 1990’s era jokes.

So when they complain about “the left,” they mostly are uncomfortable seeing queer and non white characters on TV. What they are actually asking for is for society to wholesale return to 1992 (when the media voter still had good knees).


BTW I do think that a lot of TV does suck. Most of the decline can be attributed to the proliferation of nepo babies, 3rd and four 4th generation in many cases.

Another factor is that mid tier writers used to do a workman like job and turn out respectable action flicks and raunchy comedies. Now, everyone is expected to grapple with big social questions and how it interacts with our protagonist’s inner most thoughts. Great writers can pull this off, but not everyone is David Simon.

There’s also an over reliance on lore and Easter eggs/other fan service, and it comes at the expense of story telling.

Lastly, CGI has sucked the life out of movies.


We need to fix those four things but keep the onscreen diversity. Trans and non white folks should be the lead in credulity straining action flicks and silly coming of age summer movies.

 

[superblytrife]

My boss told me and my foreman we had to finish this huge job today too, we said ok and just mashed out right after.

It’s Friday dude, **** is no where close to done and the golf course is closed for the season so who cares?

Overtime is common for me but I still just leave whenever I want. What are you going to do fire me?

Unions ftw!

Management really goofed by telling me that there is no such thing as "mandatory" overtime. Once I learned that it was a wrap for me ever coming in on my off days. One day weekends ain't it!!

 

[gry60]

Government-funded R&D is how the US sent humans to the moon with computers the size of a building.

Tech bros wouldn't understand that because they're engineers at heart, and engineers are known as the most conservative group in the STEM world. They take already proven scientific concepts to find practical, efficient, and profitable solutions to real world problems. They don't bother with the observing, hypothesizing, and proving aspects of science beyond troubleshooting immediate problems and finding a good enough solution.

 

[biggie62]

Government-funded R&D is how the US sent humans to the moon with computers the size of a building.

Tech bros wouldn't understand that because they're engineers at heart, and engineers are known as the most conservative group in the STEM world. They take already proven scientific concepts to find practical, efficient, and profitable solutions to real world problems. They don't bother with the observing, hypothesizing, and proving aspects of science beyond troubleshooting immediate problems and finding a good enough solution.

Because they are never taught to think in grey areas. It’s all only black and white. Either it works or it doesn’t. It’s sad **** as they don’t believe in grey areas

 

[gry60]

Lumpen PoC seem like an important swing voting bloc. They can tip a presidential election, they don’t have strong ideological commitments, and their support for Trump was more of a protest vote rather than a commitment to Trump’s social policies.

At least one of them expressed the "I got mine - papeles - so **** you" mindset that we see a lot on the right.

I don't think it's an opinion to say they could've chosen another election to protest vote for a Republican not named Donald. It's not like he ever apologized to the Central Park Five; it's not like he stopped hiring Nazis.

Can't feel sorry for them. Let the leopards feast.

 

[gry60]

Because they are never taught to think in grey areas. It’s all only black and white. Either it works or it doesn’t. It’s sad **** as they don’t believe in grey areas

We actually think a lot about grey areas. Part of the job is being able to manage risk because we don't get to pick all the variables that go into product development, and being unable to control all the inputs means that you have to satisfied with a product that is good enough.

The thing that pushes engineers towards conservatism is the insane focus on efficiency, which is driven by resource management (minimize energy costs) and market forces (minimize cost to consumer). They will generally steer clear of R&D activities that don't show a clear improvement of the product, or that improve the product at the cost of profitability.

Since governments are not in the business of making money, they have more leeway to fund exotic research projects as long as there exists some benefit to the public. Unfortunately, the very idea that the government is allowed to "waste" money in exploratory research is a tough sell for that crowd.

 

[mplsdunk]

Unions ftw!

Management really goofed by telling me that there is no such thing as "mandatory" overtime. Once I learned that it was a wrap for me ever coming in on my off days. One day weekends ain't it!!

I wouldn’t show up either then

Union or not I’ll still leave when I want.

Dude weekends suck, I’m in seasonal road construction weekends are just another day…

I haven’t worked one. My boss loves me too, like actual friends. Just don’t ask me to do any stupid ****.

I’m good at my job and handle jobs 4x the size of the other crew. Only thing I ask is no weekends and average 50 hours a week. If I can’t get it done he f’ed up scheduling because I’m fast af and that’s on him I’m going home.

 

[gry60]

Interesting. No taxes on overtime, but also, no ovetime pay to tax.

That was the rule that increased the threshold for mandatory overtime pay from 35k to 48k to almost 60k starting in 2025, wasn't it?

 

[aepps20]

I wouldn’t show up either then

Union or not I’ll still leave when I want.

Dude weekends suck, I’m in seasonal road construction weekends are just another day…

I haven’t worked one. My boss loves me too, like actual friends. Just don’t ask me to do any stupid ****.

I’m good at my job and handle jobs 4x the size of the other crew. Only thing I ask is no weekends and average 50 hours a week. If I can’t get it done he f’ed up scheduling because I’m fast af and that’s on him I’m going home.

I’ve already reported you to Lon and Vivey. They will have to decide if they revoke your Stalingrad value meal

 

[keko jones]

Today, I had my first real-world experience with a crazy comment about the presidential results. A crossing guard had his sign up, and two cars speeding didn’t stop until the very last second. One of the cars kept inching forward and nearly hit the guard. When he looked at me, I said, 'That was close.' He responded, 'Now that Trump...' I thought I knew what was coming next, but I didn’t. He continued, 'This is what we’re going to have to deal with! All the loonies are coming out of the woodwork. If the president-elect doesn’t care for the law, what’s going to make them care?' I was like, .

 

[kdawg]

Gaetz doesn’t have either - but that probably won’t stop him being approved.

 

[mplsdunk]

I’ve already reported you to Lon and Vivey. They will have to decide if they revoke your Stalingrad value meal

Lon is gonna be sending you to Siberia if you don't work 26 hours a day

 

[Air Champa]

You people who live in worker friendly states have it so nice. You hear any politician ever mention right to work where you live, you be sure to react accordingly.

 

[IATT]

Pete Hegseth, Trump's pick for defense secretary, was investigated for alleged sexual assault in 2017

President-elect Donald Trump's choice for defense secretary in his second term, Pete Hegseth, was investigated for alleged sexual assault in 2017, officials in Monterey, Calif. confirm.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[biggie62]

That was the rule that increased the threshold for mandatory overtime pay from 35k to 48k to almost 60k starting in 2025, wasn't it?

But remember democrats don’t do **** for the working class individual.

Lots of face eating leopards and we haven’t even started the presidency officially.

 

[rexanglorum]

Hearing a 30 something baddie type telling you to stay away from the high school campus, and interpreting that as horniness, is a very common experience for MAGAs.

 

[IATT]

For all the talk of the dangers to sports and athletes, no mentions of:

2025 Recruits Are Being Hit Hard By New NCAA Swimming Roster Limits

One SEC program reportedly pulled offers from 5 female swimmers two weeks before signing day - and they weren't the only ones.

swimswam.com

On top of sports programs getting cut all the time

 

[ajiiiplatinum]

Lumpen PoC seem like an important swing voting bloc. They can tip a presidential election, they don’t have strong ideological commitments, and their support for Trump was more of a protest vote rather than a commitment to Trump’s social policies.

Easy to explain
Eventhough the Economy “is good” people are hurting. People dont want the same old thing…they dont want Bill, Hillary, Bush II, Chaney, Obama, Michelle, Pelosi, Shumar, McConnell of Biden. They want radical change. The republicans gave them someone to shake things up.
Thats why they voted for AOC, She shakes things up.

Centrists as President Macron will tell you, is not what the people here or around the world want. Eventhough i like Gavin Newsom as Governor, i dont think Americans will want him either. We need to blood that offers change to the status quo and that challenges Big Tech and Wall Street.

 

[Nike Jordan]

People never know what they want.

 

[rexanglorum]

Government-funded R&D is how the US sent humans to the moon with computers the size of a building.

Tech bros wouldn't understand that because they're engineers at heart, and engineers are known as the most conservative group in the STEM world. They take already proven scientific concepts to find practical, efficient, and profitable solutions to real world problems. They don't bother with the observing, hypothesizing, and proving aspects of science beyond troubleshooting immediate problems and finding a good enough solution.

It’s amazing how so many of our elites have such little regard for the future.

What’s the point of being rich if you’ve convinced yourself that you’ll be homeless if you don’t meet quarterly numbers? Most of these techies are Dune fans, you’d think they’d understand the value of plans measured in centuries.

It’s ironic that these people think that they will colonize space. If you can’t wait for basic scientific research to yield an ROI, how will you have the broad horizon to terraform Mars.

 

[rexanglorum]

Easy to explain
Eventhough the Economy “is good” people are hurting. People dont want the same old thing…they dont want Bill, Hillary, Bush II, Chaney, Obama, Michelle, Pelosi, Shumar, McConnell of Biden. They want radical change. The republicans gave them someone to shake things up.
Thats why they voted for AOC, She shakes things up.

Centrists as President Macron will tell you, is not what the people here or around the world want. Eventhough i like Gavin Newsom as Governor, i dont think Americans will want him either. We need to blood that offers change to the status quo and that challenges Big Tech and Wall Street.

Right.

I think that we need to devise a terminology that distinguishes between cyclical and structural changes in the economy.

The cyclical economy, the markets and the top line numbers, can fluctuate and that does impact the lives of more than just the 1 percent. It affects about the top 20-30 percent of the electorate.

Meanwhile, there’s the structural aspects of the economy. That impacts the bottom 80 percent or so of the electorate. These are matters of purchasing power for most of the working class, particularly with regard to housing costs.


Neither party, as presently constituted, can completely address the structural issues. So it may be the case that we’ll have regular partisan swings at the Federal level for the foreseeable future.

Ultimately, it really is socialism or barbarism. In the American context, that is essentially a proxy for fully multi racial and pluralistic democracy versus a white dominated hierarchical society where self governance is always negotiable.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Always entertaining when these two have their back and forth on this topic.

I generally like John Oliver but come on now. You don't need to be an certified endocrinologist to know what advantages testosterone gives you.
A trans woman competing with women is pretty much like juicing. On the other hand, trans men are at a significant disadvantage competing against men.

They know all of this to be true. It just isn't in the script for them to admit it (yet).

In due time.
In due time.

This game can't last forever.

 

[Platinum State]

 

[IATT]

Always entertaining when these two have their back and forth on this topic.

1 valuable lesson to be learned about skip bayless, when you ignore trolls is amazing how quickly they go aware

But Candace did try to pretend to be black for 2 secs when her and Ben Shapiro fell out

 

[IATT]