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Disingenuous arguments are disingenuous. That’s not even the Fox News talking point being pushed :lol:. Not the discourse around this at all.

Don’t take the bait.
 
Disingenuous arguments are disingenuous. That’s not even the Fox News talking point being pushed :lol:. Not the discourse around this at all.

Don’t take the bait.
There is something he keeps saying that I could fact check and expose his bad faith trolling.

But why bother, everyone knows what time it is with him.

Nothing but bad faith baiting ******** from Delk. As always

Ignoring the nonsense is the best course of action
 
Newsom or pete would be better I think for president but I don’t think they’d win.

If desantis runs I think he’ll wash everyone unfortunately. If trump runs idk I think he’d still win but would be a closer race.
 
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Is DeSantis even still popular in FL?
I feel like no one outside of Maga and right-wing media cares about him.
Although he's Italian, i think it's going to be really hard for those folks in the south to vote for someone with a Latin sounding last name.
 
Man Biden needs to go ahead and run again in 24. Trump already lost once to him and it wasn't close; if one of his acolytes runs against Biden itll be an even bigger blowout.
 
If the allegations of crack use are true, then much of the discussion likely stems from the many crack users who were locked in cages for lengthy sentences due to the crack cocaine vs. powder cocaine sentencing disparity created by the crime bill that his father authored.

I know that the First Step Act has done a good bit to counteract those harsh sentences.

It’s really just a tale of two Americas, if the allegations are true.
Well you're saying "if the allegations are true' so i'm assuming there's no record and he was never arrested? So how can a sentencing disparity be the discussion?
 
Y’all acting like the votes going matter

I know you’re being facetious, but voting definitely will matter. The closer the outcome, the more cover they have to perpetuate any theft. the suspicion that someone is going to steal from you is not a rational for giving them a gift.
 
Y’all acting like the votes going matter

Once Supreme Court give individual states the power.. and republican control of aspects of process come to fruition don’t matter who is running

people are gonna act super surprised when it happens too, just like "nobody expected" J6 when we were in here discussing seizures of power for months.

it's not too late to be somewhere else.
 
I know you’re being facetious, but voting definitely will matter. The closer the outcome, the more cover they have to perpetuate any theft. the suspicion that someone is going to steal from you is not a rational for giving them a gift.

What the f I am being facetious about?!

Republicans and the Supreme Court aint being secretive about this shh
 
Well you're saying "if the allegations are true' so i'm assuming there's no record and he was never arrested? So how can a sentencing disparity be the discussion?

I’m saying if the allegations are true because he hasn’t been convicted of any crack-related offense to my knowledge.
 
Y’all acting like the votes going matter

Once Supreme Court give individual states the power.. and republican control of aspects of process come to fruition don’t matter who is running

You don’t think people should vote?
 
What the f I am being facetious about?!

Republicans and the Supreme Court aint being secretive about this shh

Ok, maybe you aren’t being facetious. Maybe you’re just wrong.

A understand your point that the election may not be determined fairly. And I’m tuned into the work at the state levels as well as how SCOTUS is signaling legislators vs. state courts.

But even if or when that election is stolen, it will absolutely matter whether or not people showed up to vote. It arguably will matter more.
 
I’m saying if the allegations are true because he hasn’t been convicted of any crack-related offense to my knowledge.
There’s photo (and video?) evidence of him doing crack, no need for the alleged. It’s not like Hunter’ll come and sue you for it.
 
There’s photo (and video?) evidence of him doing crack, no need for the alleged. It’s not like Hunter’ll come and sue you for it.

You know my stance on due process. Like another poster said, the video I saw looked altered.
 
You know my stance on due process. Like another poster said, the video I saw looked altered.
Idk about the video but from the photos etc and Hunter’s own admissions about his drug issues, it’s pretty obvious he used crack.
Alleged is the proper standard either way but not using it here can not have any impact whatsoever on Hunter’s due process rights.

It’s not like people who don’t always act like they’re a journalist or in a courtroom care any less about due process because they don’t always use allegedly.

According to your absurd due process standard, you had to say allegedly countless times any time the capital rioters came up, since it took quite a while before the first guilty pleas started coming in.

“Alleged capitol rioters who alledgedly stormed the capital and allegedly did x, allegedly did y, …”
See how silly that sounds when you fully adhere to it as an internet commenter with zero connection or bearing on the case?
 
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Idk about the video but from the photos etc and Hunter’s own admissions about his drug issues, it’s pretty obvious he used crack.
Alleged is the proper standard either way but not using it here can not have any impact whatsoever on Hunter’s due process rights.

It’s not like people who don’t always act like they’re a journalist or in a courtroom care any less about due process because they don’t always use allegedly.

According to your absurd due process standard, you had to say allegedly countless times any time the capital rioters came up, since it took quite a while before the first guilty pleas started coming in.

“Alleged capitol rioters who alledgedly stormed the capital and allegedly did x, allegedly did y, …”
See how silly that sounds when you fully adhere to it as an internet commenter with zero connection or bearing on the case?

Just to be clear, I didn’t make those statements. You’re just saying you think I would have made those statements based on my stance surrounding due process.
 
Is DeSantis even still popular in FL?
I feel like no one outside of Maga and right-wing media cares about him.
Although he's Italian, i think it's going to be really hard for those folks in the south to vote for someone with a Latin sounding last name.
I’m sorry America can be pathetic but I don’t think we have got to the point America will elect someone from Florida as President. No offense to people from Florida…. But it’s Florida.
 
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