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He was throwing terrible passes that would be intercepted no matter what the offense
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He was throwing terrible passes that would be intercepted no matter what the offense
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I have a really hard time believing the Patriots would've drafted Manziel.
Gronk and Johnny on the same squad is chaos though.
Gronk's brothers and Johnny's crew joining forces too. Combined IQ lower than the sea level (goldenchild9).
Dudes would turn up on all types of substances and try to break Chico out from prison. Bandziel's people record it all and release the footage through Vine and IG.
Gronk and Johnny on the same squad is chaos though.
Dudes would turn up on all types of substances and try to break Chico out from prison. Bandziel's people record it all and release the footage through Vine and IG.
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Most coaches built the weekly gameplan around what the starting quarterback is comfortable with.
They have their weekly Tuesday meeting and the coordinator asks the starting quarterback what he's comfortable with and they work from there.
So more play calls you see on Sunday's have been approved by the starting quarterback in their weekly meeting.
That's why I never understood totally blaming the play caller for the quarterbacks trouble.
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I know this but you can't keep marching out someone who is "hurt" or struggling, at that point you have to bench him or change the gameplan
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Hey an Andrew Luck discussion with the same characters pairing the same commentary! How fun for all!
Matt looking for revenge on Pitt this weekend
Matt looking for revenge on Pitt this weekend
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How did he not look like a starter his last game played? 372 yards on 73% passing.
He hasn't really done anything wrong this season. Whether the Browns dont want him to go out on the weekend or not, I don't consider it getting in trouble in the grand scheme of things. When you think about it he doesn't come close to what Favre was like at the beginning of his career. Favre was a pill popping booze hound. I believe there was even stories of him and Mark Chumura harassing women. Should the Packers, who were also in very tough times before Favre, not have given him a shot?
Manziel is only 22. Give him a chance to mature. Especially if hes performing well.
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All I'll say about Luck is what I've been saying. He throws games away. The team isn't as bad as everyone said they were. Matt is living proof of my claims.
I'm never right though...
I'm never right though...
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Weren't most of those 372 yards...garbage yards?
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Hey an Andrew Luck discussion with the same characters pairing the same commentary! How fun for all!
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Better than the "this is the bengals year!" Discussion
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Not from what I remember. He was money right out the gates.
I remember chester making a comment saying he was playing better than Rodgers. He really was.
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Bengals are actually playing and in second place for the conference. Far more relevant than an injured QB
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Matt Hasselbeck is playing as well and leading his team to a division title
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Yup
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I said the usual Luck talk, I'm cool with the Matt talk. He is playing smart football and doing well
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he's 1-5 as a starter with the one win coming against the Titans were they put up 28 points and he was 8/15 with 2 TDS
take that game out and they average 11 points a game when he starts
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But that's the conversation. The offense changing to Hasselbecks ability and they are winning games again
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After the Patriots loss, does everyone have Matt Hasselbeck ahead of Tom Brady in MVP voting?
I've got it:
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I've got it:
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The Browns also have or did have more offensive penalty yards than rushing yards with the worst weapons in the game.
I remember Manziel made that absurd run to the 1 yard line to make it 1st and goal. 2 plays later it was 2nd and goal from the 25 and it had nothing to do with Manziel.
Im speaking on Manziels behalf because ive seen a majority of the games. And I absolutely dont understand the criticisms he's getting with his on field play. Especially given what he did vs the Steelers. I dont think hes even started 8 games yet.
That team is horrendous. Manziel has been fine.
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Do we really need to go back and forth on this? My comment was regarding the usual derogatory comments toward Luck, not a discussion on the Colts or Matt.
Edit - that sounds worse than I intended
Edit - that sounds worse than I intended
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I would put Levonte David in there too
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I don't know how it's any different than somebody comparing Brock vs Peyton of RGIII vs Cousins.
And how those teams have done better with the backup.
And how those teams have done better with the backup.
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I just don't think he is a good QB, Josh McCown averages double the points Manziel does
I understand the Browns are a mess, I would have liked to see Manziel get his chance to finish out the year but we know how that went
throwing for 372 yards and scoring 9 points is the equivalent of taking home the smoking hot chick and cuddling
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