OFFICIAL NFL Discussion Thread: 2015-16 Season - Congrats to the Denver Broncos and their fans! SB 5

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An Armada said:
The fact that the Browns 1.0 (now Baltimore Ravens) won a super bowl not long after relocating to Baltimore has to be the most gut wrenching thing for Browns fans I imagine.
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almost as bad as the sonics leaving the year they drafted westbrook and a year after drafting KD :frown:
 
eddiengambino said:
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The kick 6 still cracks me up since Monday :lol:
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Check out the holder after the kick... He stands up and then runs towards the opposite sideline :lol: :lol:
 
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what if i told you that Cleveland is the best spot for Manziel because their team and situation distracts away from the fact that hes not an NFL QB let alone a good one...
 
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This is how a 40-year-old backup is outperforming Andrew Luck, saving the Colts

Game manager is a catchall term that usually refers to any quarterback that isn’t in a pass heavy offense yet is still winning games with the help of a strong running game and/or defense. It has a negative connotation because the term gets misapplied to bad quarterbacks who aren’t actually managing the game at all. Game management though is an extremely important trait for a quarterback to have. And it’s the reason that the Colts are winning with Matt Hasselbeck, who has corrected one of the early-season failings of injured starter Andrew Luck.

Game management requires accomplishing all the little things that sustain drives. Avoiding turnovers, avoiding sacks, converting third downs and taking what the defense gives you are all tactics that keep the ball in the hands of your offense. This is the key difference between the two Colts quarterbacks.

Luck plays an extremely high-variance style of football and that leads to unintended consequences. Luck throws deep. A lot. His 10.1 average depth of target is seventh highest in the league. This is fine when your decision making and accuracy are in line with Luck’s numbers the last two years, but he’s taken huge steps back in both and is currently PFF’s lowest graded quarterback this season.

Luck, considered a potential MVP candidate entering the season sits among the league’s worst in accuracy (65.0 percent), turnover worthy throws rate (4.2 percent), and dropbacks under pressure (40.2 percent). The last one you might not assume is a quarterback statistic, but there is a reason why Peyton Manning leads the league in it almost every year and a reason why Hasselbeck’s only been under pressure on 27.3 percent of his dropbacks, the second lowest rate in the NFL, despite facing similar circumstances as Luck in Indy.

Hasselbeck doesn’t push the ball down the field nearly as often. In fact it’s not even close. Hasselbeck’s average depth of target is 7.8, over two yards shorter than Luck’s. The 40-year-old gets the ball out of his hand quickly with an average time to attempt of 2.32 seconds compared to Luck’s 2.67 seconds. That, combined with his veteran decision making, means that in the same offense Hasselbeck has an accuracy percentage over 10 points higher than Luck’s at 76.2 and Hasselbeck is making turnover worthy throws almost half as often at only 2.3 percent of his attempts. The result of more completions and fewer turnovers is obviously a more efficient offense.

The raw numbers aren’t staggering. Indy is averaging 20.4 points on offense when Luck starts and 21.3 when Hasselbeck starts, but take into account the fact that Hasselbeck’s ability to sustain drives means they’ve averaged only 11 drives per game when Hasselbeck starts compared to 13 under Luck. That makes Hasselbeck’s points per drive 1.93 while Luck sits at 1.57. That’s a sizable gap and it’s the difference between the 16th most efficient offense in the NFL and the 28th most efficient.

It’s not a surprise that Hasselbeck’s addition to the starting lineup has resulted in widespread change in the look of the offense, but it’s no coincidence that the defense has looked considerably better in the games Hasselbeck has started. Fewer drives means fewer opportunities for the opposition to score. Fewer turnovers and fewer three-and-outs means worse starting field position for the opposition.

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We’ve seen this play out perfectly in the Colts’ defensive drive stats. The defense in games Luck started allowed 2.1 points per drive and 28.1 yards per drive. Under Hasselbeck they’ve improved to only 1.5 points points per drive, despite their yards per drive against skyrocketing to 36.2. The defense hasn’t improved by leaps and bounds in the games under Hasselbeck, they’re simply being put in better situations.

At Matt Hasselbeck’s age, he’s obviously a limited quarterback and the Colts are not nearly talented enough for him to lead them through the playoffs. But as we’ve seen he’s still got more than enough in the tank to lead them through a muddled AFC South and has graded out as the best quarterback in the division. They can’t afford to have the early season version of Andrew Luck throwing away games the way he was. If he is hampered in any way that’s going to affect his performance, there should be no question that they go with Hasselbeck as the starter.

When Luck does return though, he and new offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski need to replicate this success under Hasselbeck. The injury to the Colts’ starting quarterback not only solved a lot of issues for the offense, but it also may have saved their season and served as a road map to get Luck back on the path to stardom.
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I never understand why a coach will adjust for the back up but not do the same for a struggling starter

Andy Reid was the king of this with McNabb
 
eddiengambino said:
In other news...

This is how a 40-year-old backup is outperforming Andrew Luck, saving the Colts

And it’s the reason that the Colts are winning with Matt Hasselbeck, who has corrected one of the early-season failings of injured starter Andrew Luck.

Game management requires accomplishing all the little things that sustain drives. Avoiding turnovers, avoiding sacks, converting third downs and taking what the defense gives you are all tactics that keep the ball in the hands of your offense. This is the key difference between the two Colts quarterbacks.

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But but his coordinator, offensive line, running back, defense, recievers etc etc.

Anything but him.

I guess that narrative doesn't work anymore.

How about he was just playing like ***** for the last 10 games.
 
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