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Originally Posted by 23ska909red02
^ Then I was definitely wrong on that; my fault.me:
[Kobe] is the most recognized, emulated, respected figure on an elite team in an NBA. Chris Paul and Garnett are on elite teams, but when people talk about being 'THE BEST', WAY more people have Kobe in mind than garnett or Paul. MANY have LeBron in mind, but he's not an elite team.EzFlash:
Is that your only reasoning for Kobe being MVP right now tho?
he could easily win it just because he hasn't won one yet.
That would be horrible.
I see
1.CP3
2. LeBron
3. Kobe
without that player which team will fall off the hardest
The Cavs would be a surefire lottery team without #23
The Hornets have good pieces in West (All-Star), Chandler and Pedrag.
Boston without KG would still be good with Allen and Pierce, two All-Stars.
Bean has Gasol (former All-Star), and LO. While its not BOS caliber supporting cast, its better than Damon Jones and Ilguaskas.
Originally Posted by BaronDavis5
Please stop with the Lebron nonsense. How does he even deserve it? hes in the east and he barely got 40 wins. MVP i think not.
Originally Posted by WILLINC
Back to back loses to Grizzlies and Bobcats, MVP huh ?
Paul FTW
What has Kobe really done to have a more positive impact on the league, this year?Originally Posted by franchise3
^ THIS YEAR, Chris Paul has had a more positive effect on the league?
Obviously, they both have a positive effect; that's not the question.
The question is: "Who had a MORE positive impact on the league?"
I say Kobe. Him and LeBron are THE faces of the league, but like I said earlier, LeBron is out in my opinion, because of his team's record.
I don't know about you, but most people had the Lakers as a 7/8 seed tops, with the majority missing saying they will miss the playoffs.
The Hornets were a young team and they almost made the playoffs last year, everyone knew they would improve.
I have a question though(just a general question for anyone to answer), what does Kobe have to do in order to win the MVP?
Anyway, I say a co-MVP with CP3 and Kobe winning
Again, it's a great story how the Lakers have arisen back to atop the West. It really is. But, Kobe is arguably the best player in the game today. (I think he is) Of course it's no fault to him, but when you see the Lakers at the top, as surprising as it is, you remind yourself that that team has Kobe, and it's like, 'Ok."
I just think it's even more impressive that the Hornets are there in contention, as, before this season started, you would get laughed at if you said CP3 was the best PG in the game. This season he's risen to prove that he is.
I was one of the few people who had New Orleans being a serious threat this year.
No one knew what to expect with Kobe and the Lakers coming into this season, hell, we didn't even know if he'd be a Laker!!
As Ska said, there's dudes like Kobe and LeBron, then there's guys like CP3, Kidd, Nash, Shaq, KG, AI, Yao, Tracy, Gilbert. Kobe and LeBron are in a League of their own.
And given the Lakers success, if they finish a top 3 seed, Kobe's getting it.
Great call.
Very true that nobody even knew if Kobe would still be around, and all the credit goes to Kobe for putting his head down and going to work.
It's just, I don't think the MVP should be based off 'star power'/face of the league type stuff. I don't think that's part of it to begin with, considering how Nash has won the MVP back to back years.
It should be based off indvidual stats/team success.
My opinion is, whoever finishes higher in the top 3 in the West should get it.
It's fair to say that CP3 is just as deserving as Kobe.
Just say no to the 'due' theory for Kobe.
you can say the same thing about West, Peja, Pargo, Chandler, and all those guys
I also think the injury factor gives Kobe the edge
If only the Lakers had been healthy all year
shut up
nice to see you are very educated and can articulate an educated response
beautiful
WILLINC:
Paul is my MVP as long as they finish in the top 3, i dont care what Kobe and the lakers do
So if the Lakers finish with the top seed out West but the Hornets finish #2 or #3, Paul is your MVP?
So no matter what GOOD the Lakers do, Paul is your MVP?
But if they do something BAD, you're going to make sure to point it out, like he just lost the MVP trophy?
So when it's something good, you just say 'I don't care what the Lakers do,' but when it's something bad, you make sure to point it out.
nice to see you are very educated and can articulate an educated response
Its people like you who seem to be so educated. Taking 2 games out of an 82 game season and exploiting it. Then I looked at the teams in your sig, and it all became clear. I extend my sympathy to you, sir. It must be a pain to watch those teams play.
yea as a knick fan you have a lot to gloat about,, Get out of here
Pretty much.Originally Posted by franchise3
Hence the reason I stated, that that one game (or two, of course) difference makes up for one guy carrying a team that has suffered many bad injuries while playing injured himself vs another guy who has had no real significant injuries on his team to worry about? Really?
nice to see you are very educated and can articulate an educated response
yea as a knick fan you have a lot to gloat about,, Get out of here
Knicks > Miami
Giants > Dolphins
Yankees > Marlins
have a nice day