Official NBA 2012-2013 Season Thread

[jpzx]

The amount of "o's" on that Noooo

 

[quik1987]

 

[Rootin4EverybodyBlack]

Thank you, most teams would beg for 1 superstar. The lakers have 2, a future HOFer at point, and an all star caliber PF.

Don't forget the fact they have 3 currently active players who've all made 1st Team all Defense at least twice. Yet any and everybody still scores on em.

 

[big j 33]

Zach Lowe on the Knick's 3 point shooting and how well Amare will fit when he returns.

Grantland

 

[nicelikechrist]

This dude JR was rustling jimmies last night

 

[pdouly33]

Not sure if anyone posted this in here yet but there's a free preview of NBA League Pass this weekend, 12/14-12/16.

 

[Bert.]

Jackson Would Not Return To Lakers If Offered Job
Dec 13, 2012 10:50 PM EST

Phil Jackson would not return to coach the Los Angeles Lakers, if offered the job.

“Noooo,” he said. “They’ll get it going.”

The Lakers have lost 9 of 13 games since Mike D’Antoni took over for the fired Mike Brown.

Jackson expressed confidence that the Lakers can fix their recent struggles, but changed his tune when asked if the team can contend for a title: “Well, no, I don’t know about that, but...

 

[651akathepaul]

Directv doing a free trial of League Pass over the weekend. Ends the 16th. Just a heads up.

 

[Bert.]

Directv doing a free trial of League Pass over the weekend. Ends the 16th. Just a heads up.

comcast as well.

wonder if this affects the free trial at all star break? i remember they always gave a week or something.

 

[mronegative]

Not sure if anyone posted this in here yet but there's a free preview of NBA League Pass this weekend, 12/14-12/16.

Good look.

 

[pmatic]

Not sure if anyone posted this in here yet but there's a free preview of NBA League Pass this weekend, 12/14-12/16.

Thank you.

No bueno if their streams lag behind other streams though.

 

[do be doo]

 

[Deleted member 38182]

Please, let's not feel sorry for the Lakers, teams have gotten by with much less.
For example the 60 win Bron Cavs coached by Mike Brown

Thank you, most teams would beg for 1 superstar. The lakers have 2, a future HOFer at point, and an all star caliber PF.

They have 4 future hofers

 

[flyerthandelta]

Word is out, if nash has one more setback hes out for the season.

 

[grandtheftbike]

That term is used too loosely

 

[ag 47]

Phil's not coming back? It's Kobe's fault.

 

[pmatic]

Farewell, ESPN

The thing about change is that it can creep up so that you barely notice it. Then you wake up one day and realize the world has shifted. Slowly but surely the perception of the entire basketball analytics field changed. What was once the fringe is now mainstream.

I didn't even notice it as I was straining to convert holdouts amid assorted forehead-slap moments. It's only now as I look back that I realize how completely views have shifted about the role of analytics in basketball. So before I run off to tackle items on my to-do list -- pack, move, familiarize myself with the Timberlake oeuvre, etc. -- I want to reflect on how analytics has evolved in the NBA during my time.

Yes, there were some setbacks along the way. Scores of straw men suffered savage beatings in the name of analytics, under the mistaken premise that it was supposed to replace everything that came before it.

Eventually, however, the best information wins. And ultimately, analytics is about providing more and better information to supplement what is already available. Steadily, that realization has taken hold. Not only is it now acceptable to mention things like true shooting percentage in polite conversation, but there's also been a real quantum shift in front offices like the one I'm about to join.

It's hard to believe this is true, but just eight years ago very few teams showed any interest in analytics, and those who did wouldn't admit it publicly. Seriously. Teams employed analytics people they wouldn't even mention in their directory for fear of ridicule.

In less than a decade, teams have reversed course: Now, if anything, many try to promote how much they're doing with analytics. At least two-thirds of the league's teams have invested in this area, and while a few of them are just checking a box, most are seriously committed to it.

Helping this process along were some significant milestones. Houston's hiring of Daryl Morey was a huge one -- not just the fact that it happened, but that he experienced enough success to convince others that this approach had merit. If he had gone 24-58 in his first year, I'm not sure the rest of this story would have turned out the same. At the very least, the Sloan Sports Conference wouldn't have become Dorkapalooza.

Similarly, I'd argue that a few high-profile outcomes placed analytics in a more favorable light and, again, these results were not preordained. San Antonio winning the 2007 championship, for instance, or Dallas losing in the first round in 2010 -- both were cases where the analytics zigged very publicly when most of the world zagged. While the odds were in their favor, these were not guaranteed outcomes.

An equally large part of the story starts right here in late 2004. That's when ESPN.com's secret weapon, also known as Royce Webb, hatched the idea that the world was ready for basketball analytics and that it could serve as a cornerstone of our coverage. He teamed with far-sighted editors like Chris Ramsay and Patrick Stiegman to not just run a few columns, but to invest in developing valuable tools to support it and then promote it. It turned out that if you built things like advanced stats pages and playoff projections, people would come.

The irony is not lost on me: Their commitment and support were so effective in fueling my success that it put me on the Grizzlies' radar. The good news is that you'll still be able to get your analytics fix without me, which is another sign of how things have changed. When I started, there was only a small handful of people in the field. Now we have a steady stream of young writers entering, and a lot of them are really, really good.

If you haven't been reading Tom Haberstroh, his Writer Efficiency Rating has been off the charts, and you should be soaking up all his stuff quickly in case Erik Spoelstra adopts him. Kevin Pelton is one of the veterans now, and he's developed some really sophisticated tools for things like injuries and future projections. Beckley Mason at TrueHoop and Zach Lowe over at Grantland have incorporated the advanced stats into more general missives about the league -- again, a sign of how this field has gone mainstream -- and have become must-reads.

In other words, things really have changed. The movement is in good hands, and once I'm gone these guys can start getting the minutes and touches they deserve.

But most importantly, there are the people who really pushed analytics into the mainstream: you, the readers. Ultimately, the reason my career at ESPN.com flourished, and that analytics in general grew the way it did, was that readers demanded it. To all the people who shelled out for Insider, read my columns, participated in my chats, followed my Tweets and checked out the advanced stats: I am tremendously grateful and can't possibly thank you enough.

And so, after nearly eight amazing years at ESPN.com, I'm seizing an opportunity with the Memphis Grizzlies, and I couldn't be more excited about what lies ahead. I'm moving on, but so is the field of basketball analytics, and it's continuing to head to a better place.

 

[airjordan jb23]

Great game from Lillard last night... He was shooting lights out

I like his shot, plus the way he can get to the rim (very fast & knows how to use contact)... Looking forward to seeing what he can continue doing this season in Portland.

 

[mjshoefanatic]

Lillard is a beast.

 

[flyerthandelta]

:x

says the guy with the shaq lakers jersey and just became a warriors fan in the we believe days after becoming a full blown laker hater...

way to turn your back on the lakers champ....

keep trying to be slick and ill keep bringing up your laker fan days youngster...

you're still bring up that I had a shaq jersey when I was 8


My Lakers, My Warriors FOH clown


Btw I was going to games when Warriors had Donyell Marshall and Bimbo Cole in their starting lineup

Tried to tell yall he lame how you go from the Lakeshow to the Warriors lls

 

[jumpmanfromdabay]

:x

says the guy with the shaq lakers jersey and just became a warriors fan in the we believe days after becoming a full blown laker hater...

way to turn your back on the lakers champ....

keep trying to be slick and ill keep bringing up your laker fan days youngster...

you're still bring up that I had a shaq jersey when I was 8


My Lakers, My Warriors FOH clown


Btw I was going to games when Warriors had Donyell Marshall and Bimbo Cole in their starting lineup

Tried to tell yall he lame how you go from the Lakeshow to the Warriors lls

Wait what? Everybody in Warriors season thread knows this lame root for 2 teams

 

[flyerthandelta]

2 teams?!?!? Im lost lmfaooooo

 

[mronegative]

Farewell, ESPN

Admit it, Nas. This made you sad.

 

[pmatic]

I'll miss reading his articles, yes.

 

[Deleted member 38182]

Just read some article on Rick Barry ranting about how if you aren't shooting underhand free throws, you're an idiot. Dude is a douche. No wonder all his sons hate his guts.