Official NBA 2012-2013 Season Thread

[mronegative]

 tony allen blocked me because I said he was the funniest athlete on twitter 

Well...you did try to hide your STD and shut porn down.

 

[trynafeelmink]

Yeah, I really think he does care. It's why his game has been so bipolar. I'm not a Kobe hater or whatever...but yeah, I think when he alters his game that drastically I think he is doing it simply to prove a point.

and this pass heavy thing hasn't been just about making the team better. He's passed up open dunks.

Dude since he started playing like that the team is 8-3 and he's still averaging around 20. Last night was a horrible game but lets not act like he does this all the time... Oh and his team won.

 

[bhzmafia14]

The fans in Memphis hate Rudy like Toronto fans hate Vince Carter after that comment he made.

The funny thing is, no one even knows if that comment was directed at the Grizz players or not.

Tony Allen blocked one of my friends last season when the team was in a slump and he said "TA need to knock OJ out again to get the team back focused"

 

[Chester McFloppy]

 tony allen blocked me because I said he was the funniest athlete on twitter 

Well...you did try to hide your STD and shut porn down.

 

[dade b0y]

 

[IATT]

 How many scoring titled would Jordan have won in a league that has KD, Kobe, Lebron, and Melo to name a few?

what would jordan's scoring average be with the present rules?

and by the present rules, i mean specifically no 'hand checking'.. and then there is obviously the physicality of the defenders or lack thereof in the league today, which also needs to be factored in

 

[mronegative]

 tony allen blocked me because I said he was the funniest athlete on twitter 

Well...you did try to hide your STD and shut porn down.

 

[airjordan jb23]

Westbrook

That DeRozan dunk was vicious :x

at Reke's cross on TA... at TA catching feeling over that RT though.

Will Ferrell was comedy last night

 

[victor page]

Russell got real issues 

 

[thasoleful1]

Reke got TA good

 

[solarius49]

 How many scoring titled would Jordan have won in a league that has KD, Kobe, Lebron, and Melo to name a few?

what would jordan's scoring average be with the present rules?


and by the present rules, i mean specifically no 'hand checking'.. and then there is obviously the physicality of the defenders or lack thereof in the league today, which also needs to be factored in

what would Jerry West have averaged if he had the benefit of a 3 point line? He averaged 27 ppg without it. Its all speculation, but I would imagine he would be over 40 with it


edit - and 6.7 assists, take that Kobe

 

[henz0]

Derozan :x

Westbrook

Tyreke :x

 

[shoelyesses]

what would jordan's scoring average be with the present rules?

and by the present rules, i mean specifically no 'hand checking'.. and then there is obviously the physicality of the defenders or lack thereof in the league today, which also needs to be factored in

um but he did play in the no hand check era...if im not mistaking, it was implemented 93...roughly halfway thru his career. as far as physical defenders is concern, true you had more in his era, but it was mostly at the pf/c position rather then the positions in which jordan played.

The guards small forwards of todays game are FAR more athletic, stronger, faster etc...then jordans early/mid years. Then lets not forget the jordan pass....in which many times calls etc were favored for him because of his status. Whose to say he would get these favorable calls over a kobe, a iverson in his prime, a lebron so on and so forth. In any era i think jordan would be an elite player. But head and shoulders faaaaaar above the next, clear cut undisputed, no one even in a far distant second to him. I doubt it.

 

[jumpmantwenty3]

My dude RW is a bit nutso but I love how he takes every loss personally

 

[solarius49]

I expected a little more feedback to the Jerry West comment, but I guess theres not alot of classic basketball fans on here (I love those Hardwood Classics games)

But why isnt Oscar Robertson the greatest player of all time?

a career statline of 25, 9.5, 7.5

and put up 31, 11.4, 12.5 in his second year in the league

:x

 

[CP1708]

Look at the eras man. Can't compare that stuff to today.

 

[do be doo]

I expected a little more feedback to the Jerry West comment, but I guess theres not alot of classic basketball fans on here (I love those Hardwood Classics games)

But why isnt Oscar Robertson the greatest player of all time?

a career statline of 25, 9.5, 7.5

and put up 31, 11.4, 12.5 in his second year in the league

Man all eras in the NBA were dope.

Yeah Oscar is a lite Lebron James.

 

[rook]

Westbrook is such a waterhead lmao but thats my guy

Raptors...if they can make a run at the playoffs and avoid the Heat. Look out

 

[henz0]

^ I wanna see them play the KNicks

 

[solarius49]

Look at the eras man. Can't compare that stuff to today.

but why not? And if we're talking about "of all time", why does it need to be compared to today? Every era has its differences, but greatness is greatness regardless. And if you're putting up 27ppg with no 3 point line as a scoring guard, then you have to be considered among the greatest scorers of all time IMO

 

[IATT]

what would Jerry West have averaged if he had the benefit of a 3 point line? He averaged 27 ppg without it. Its all speculation, but I would imagine he would be over 40 with it


edit - and 6.7 assists, take that Kobe

yup.. at the end of the day, we truly will never know

but it is my belief, it was harder to score in the 80s and 90s than it is in today

um but he did play in the no hand check era...if im not mistaking, it was implemented 93...roughly halfway thru his career. as far as physical defenders is concern, true you had more in his era, but it was mostly at the pf/c position rather then the positions in which jordan played.

The guards small forwards of todays game are FAR more athletic, stronger, faster etc...then jordans early/mid years. Then lets not forget the jordan pass....in which many times calls etc were favored for him because of his status. Whose to say he would get these favorable calls over a kobe, a iverson in his prime, a lebron so on and so forth. In any era i think jordan would be an elite player. But head and shoulders faaaaaar above the next, clear cut undisputed, no one even in a far distant second to him. I doubt it.

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/david_aldridge/04/22/aldridge.defenses/

my intent with posting that question, wasnt to start a "jordan vs" dicussion.. but simply to point out that if we are adding hypotheticals to the situation then that pendulum should swing both ways

the league has obviously implemented a number of rules which favor the offensive player.. so it is my belief that certain players would do extremely well in today's game (not only jordan)

but there is also the other side to the equation.. i mean does anyone who would have watched basketball in the 80s and/or 90s believe that lebron would be given the clear lane to the basket that he is given on many a nights?

and what affect would that have on his overall game?

by no means do i believe lebron wouldn't be a great player in an era, but he obviously would have to make adjustments to his game.. and i believe he is capable of that.. same as KD.. same as a number of great players..

but i do think some would suffer more than others

or since we are talking about hypotheticals, given carmelo's recent reaction(s) to the whole "honey nut cheerios" thing.. how would he handle the psychological aspect to playing back then?

or how would dwight howard deal with it?

 

[osh kosh bosh]

but why not? And if we're talking about "of all time", why does it need to be compared to today? Every era has its differences, but greatness is greatness regardless. And if you're putting up 27ppg with no 3 point line as a scoring guard, then you have to be considered among the greatest scorers of all time IMO

Defenses and offeses were less complicated, that means more shots, more rebounds, more assists. His triple doubles are a function of his era.

 

[CP1708]

Less film, less travel, fewer players, different pace, less strategy, no year round coaching, studying, playing.......

It was all different.

 

[solarius49]

but why not? And if we're talking about "of all time", why does it need to be compared to today? Every era has its differences, but greatness is greatness regardless. And if you're putting up 27ppg with no 3 point line as a scoring guard, then you have to be considered among the greatest scorers of all time IMO

Defenses and offeses were less complicated, that means more shots, more rebounds, more assists. His triple doubles are a function of his era.

isn't that kind of unfair though? I mean at the end of the day you still have to do those things you know? You still have to rebound, assist and score. We're currently in an era where we experience higher scoring than any other point in NBA history. Higher scoring means more shots are being put up, so does that means Lebrons stats are a function of that? I wouldnt think so....

 

[quik1987]

I expected a little more feedback to the Jerry West comment, but I guess theres not alot of classic basketball fans on here (I love those Hardwood Classics games)

But why isnt Oscar Robertson the greatest player of all time?

a career statline of 25, 9.5, 7.5

and put up 31, 11.4, 12.5 in his second year in the league

:x

You said tyler hansborough belongs in the HOF, no one wants to talk to you anymore