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I disagree, before MMA, there was Vale Tudo, before that there was Pankration.
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I disagree, before MMA, there was Vale Tudo, before that there was Pankration.
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The HW division was damn good back then but you're right in that it was all in Pride. Don't see why that makes a diff. though. I wouldn't carewhere the HW's were centered. So long as we could get a decent number of great ones. Nowadays, it's complete garbage.
As for the GSP v. Alves fight some were proposing (before the fight) that Alves couldn't even deal with Fitch's wrestling so how was he to deal withGSP's? I was skeptical of their argument but they turned out to be 100% correct. I guess I bought into the UFC hype too on that one. Alves really had nochance apart from a lucky haymaker or knee. That wasn't even a fight earlier, was it? I mean 5 round sof GSP beating up on Alves and around midway rd 2 iswas obvious that Alves really didn't know how to coutner GSP's wrestling.
Watch the Fitch Alves fight. Alves was horrible countering Fitch's wrestling in that fight as well and Fitch is no GSP.
Alves did beat Hughes or ......Grandaddy Hughes.
White is a genius at merketing.
This PPV only had one real fight. Lesnar v Mir.
Anyone really think Bisping was going to win?
A lot of us got got on the GSP Alves fight. Alves had, at best, a puncher's chance from the start. In reality that match up was never close at all.
To top it all off, the 2 fights that were already decided way before they atarted were more entertaining thn the fight whicha ctually was a decent match up.
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You're right about Vale Tudo, but I'm not including Pankration, that is wayyy to damn far back
The HW division was damn good back then but you're right in that it was all in Pride. Don't see why that makes a diff. though. I wouldn't care where the HW's were centered. So long as we could get a decent number of great ones. Nowadays, it's complete garbage.
As for the GSP v. Alves fight some were proposing (before the fight) that Alves couldn't even deal with Fitch's wrestling so how was he to deal with GSP's? I was skeptical of their argument but they turned out to be 100% correct. I guess I bought into the UFC hype too on that one. Alves really had no chance apart from a lucky haymaker or knee. That wasn't even a fight earlier, was it? I mean 5 round sof GSP beating up on Alves and around midway rd 2 is was obvious that Alves really didn't know how to coutner GSP's wrestling.
Watch the Fitch Alves fight. Alves was horrible against countering wrestling in that fight as well and Fitch is no GSP.
Alves did beat Hughes or ......Grandaddy Hughes.
White is a genius at merketing.
This PPV only had one real fight. Lesnar v Mir.
Anyone really think Bisping was going to win?
A lot of us got got on the GSP Alves fight. Alves had, at best, a puncher's chance from the start. In reality that match up was never close at all.
To top it all off, the 2 fights that were already decided way before they atarted were more entertaining thn the fight whicha ctually was a decent match up.
The heavyweight fighters now are much more well rounded then before. Just give them time to develop.
And it's really unfair to blame the UFC for how damn good GSP is. Alves was EASILY the No. 1 contender regardless of the org. And yes Fitch was taking downAlves, but that was damn near 3 years ago. Alves isn't anywhere near the fighter he was back then.
And yeah, I thought Bisping had a chance to win. Whoops, guess I was wrong. I still remember picking Hendo to win thatfight though...
And I'm trying to figure out what Dana has to do with all this, considering all those fights made sense from the beginning... Or what you're talkingabout has to do with our previous conversation. You wanna talk about how this match up wasn't a good match up but yet all these fights made sense. Alveswas the No. 1 fighter at 170, Mir just killed Nog and had beaten Brock which made sense, Bisping and Hendo were both lined up for title shots and this was away for to clear out some contenders (I've came to conclusion that Okami will never, ever get a title shot).
If you want me to be honest, you are really reaching for a reason to bash Dana, for no apparent reason at all...
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i keep watching the fight over and over again cause i believe dan was thinking to himself "he's not on my level" the entire fight and he wasright
bisping %+%#$$ up big time though, dan got in close with an inside leg kick and bisping dropped his hands to push dan away, BIG MISTAKE
bisping %+%#$$ up big time though, dan got in close with an inside leg kick and bisping dropped his hands to push dan away, BIG MISTAKE
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So glad this fight unfolded the way it did. It wasn't even that big of a fight to be on "UFC 100" but it was the only fight I wasreally looking forward to.
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I haven't seen this many people as salty about a win since Lidell/Couture 2. You know Brock is doing a good job when people react to his antics like some12 year olds at Raw is War. You woulda thought he won by the finger poke of doom
So he used his muscle to bully Mir? The guy played to his strengths and executed his game plan well. You gotta respect that. The post fight antics are w/e. Itjust made me laugh and like him more if anything.
So he used his muscle to bully Mir? The guy played to his strengths and executed his game plan well. You gotta respect that. The post fight antics are w/e. Itjust made me laugh and like him more if anything.
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Great ppv. The Henderson KO and the extra gift at the end were two of the hardest direct hits I've seen in a long time. The Japanese singer/model'smatch was the most entertaining of the night. Brock handled it. Mir just got it handed to him. I only got bored seeing GSP take that guy down 9 (or 10?) times,and I didn't even watch the match after Lesnar's.
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yup... that was crazy
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Straight saltiness on my part yes, I don't like Brock at all but yes he's a skilled person, but let's not act like his size wasn'ta huge factor in this. I just wish Mir was that big...Originally Posted by Burn916
I haven't seen this many people as salty about a win since Lidell/Couture 2. You know Brock is doing a good job when people react to his antics like some 12 year olds at Raw is War. You woulda thought he won by the finger poke of doom
So he used his muscle to bully Mir? The guy played to his strengths and executed his game plan well. You gotta respect that. The post fight antics are w/e. It just made me laugh and like him more if anything.
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^ I'm just saying, you guys are mad knowledgeable...but I gotta call it out when I see it
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On another note, I NEED to see the Lawlor v Dollaway fight..."Who Let the Dogs Out" with Petruzelli on a leash + Dollaway getting subbed again
On another note, I NEED to see the Lawlor v Dollaway fight..."Who Let the Dogs Out" with Petruzelli on a leash + Dollaway getting subbed again
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Look, let me be saltyOriginally Posted by Burn916
^ I'm just saying, you guys are mad knowledgeable...but I gotta call it out when I see it.
On another note, I NEED to see the Lawlor v Dollaway fight..."Who Let the Dogs Out" with Petruzelli on a leash + Dollaway getting subbed again
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And Oh man, I forgot all about Cain Velasquez. Hopefully he beats Carwin so he can fight Lesnar.
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It's nice to see such a following of MMA on this site. I normally don't venture to S/T but I was curious to see if there was any sort of threaddedicated to Pride/Dream/Affliction/UFC. Pleased to see that there was indeed.
I've been practicing Muay Thai Kickboxing for twelve years. After a few victories I enlisted in an "anything goes" match. Shortly thereafter(first loss) I realized I needed to sharpen my ground game.
Now I possess quite a large frame so normally I'm able to outmuscle my opponents but in the bout previously mentioned... I found myself unable.
I have since sharpened my Brazilian Jiu Jitsu skills for 8 years and am rapidly approaching brown belt.
I have no intention on competing (beyond my previous competitions) but hey I'm a good fighter who works in the corporate world... Cinderella story?!
I've been practicing Muay Thai Kickboxing for twelve years. After a few victories I enlisted in an "anything goes" match. Shortly thereafter(first loss) I realized I needed to sharpen my ground game.
Now I possess quite a large frame so normally I'm able to outmuscle my opponents but in the bout previously mentioned... I found myself unable.
I have since sharpened my Brazilian Jiu Jitsu skills for 8 years and am rapidly approaching brown belt.
I have no intention on competing (beyond my previous competitions) but hey I'm a good fighter who works in the corporate world... Cinderella story?!
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^ yeah we have a few BJJ Practitioners including myself..12 years of Muay Thai though, that's impressive.
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Yeah ever since I was expelled for delivering a liver kick followed by a right elbow which grazed his chin and knocked him out I've been informal classes. My stand up is satisfactory but I definitely need to focus on my ground game. I figure in 5 or 6 years I'd be a formidable contender. (Onceagain, I'm really not looking to compete just want to defend myself) But you never know!
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Brock is a genius. He is the new bad boy HW champ of UFC. He's the new Mike Tyson. Everyone will love to hate him and everyone will buy every PPV he'son praying he will lose. He will be making that $$$$$
As much as you want to say how much of a jerk he was, he gave what Frank Mir what he was asking for after talking smack for MONTHS. Frank Mir with the"Having Brock Lesnar on you is like having your little sister jump on your back and pull your hair." Looks like you little sister MURDERED you.
No one complained when Dan Henderson said the punch after the KO was to shut Bisping's mouth for good. Tonight was and example of why you don't OD ontalking smack before your fight. It just motivated Dan and Brock tonight to destroy their opponents.
As much as you want to say how much of a jerk he was, he gave what Frank Mir what he was asking for after talking smack for MONTHS. Frank Mir with the"Having Brock Lesnar on you is like having your little sister jump on your back and pull your hair." Looks like you little sister MURDERED you.
No one complained when Dan Henderson said the punch after the KO was to shut Bisping's mouth for good. Tonight was and example of why you don't OD ontalking smack before your fight. It just motivated Dan and Brock tonight to destroy their opponents.
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^
i told my friend the EXACT same thing at the end of the night
but yo... whos this fedor guy everyone keeps talking about?
but yo... whos this fedor guy everyone keeps talking about?
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Originally Posted by columbiasneaks
^i told my friend the EXACT same thing at the end of the night
but yo... whos this fedor guy everyone keeps talking about?
for real?
just playing
he is considered the best heavyweight in MMA by a mile for many.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedor_Emelianenko
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great fights
akiyama did what i thought he would do, belcher would not give up and it was a good fight.
hendo was OD. beast. bisping was no match. hes on another lvl.
gsp was too good.
brock was OG.
akiyama did what i thought he would do, belcher would not give up and it was a good fight.
hendo was OD. beast. bisping was no match. hes on another lvl.
gsp was too good.
brock was OG.
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henderson with the KO punch on bisping
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Originally Posted by cycoviZion
damn...when he hit him that second time i was like "was that necessary" then i hear him say it was to shut him up
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^^ I wanted him to win but he got worked. Very classy move when he raised GSP's arm after the fight tho..
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Originally Posted by thekryptonite
Originally Posted by columbiasneaks
^i told my friend the EXACT same thing at the end of the night
but yo... whos this fedor guy everyone keeps talking about?
for real?
just playing
he is considered the best heavyweight in MMA by a mile for many.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedor_Emelianenko
BTW...i heard Cro-Cop coming back to UFC? Him and Fedor emelianenko were my favorite fighters when i use to follow PRIDE.
