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Official Carmelo Anthony Trade Rumors Thread (Carmelo is Officially a Knick)
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knicks fans didn't create the mecca nickname. do some research before you start talking nonsense.
the thought of NJ having more potential than NY with melo is laughable. you guys are just pulling stuff for your %*# now
the thought of NJ having more potential than NY with melo is laughable. you guys are just pulling stuff for your %*# now
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knicks fans didn't create the mecca nickname. do some research before you start talking nonsense.
the thought of NJ having more potential than NY with melo is laughable. you guys are just pulling stuff for your %*# now
the thought of NJ having more potential than NY with melo is laughable. you guys are just pulling stuff for your %*# now
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Melo should just try and get to Chicago or Knicks...
Why go to the Nets ??
Might as well stay in Denver and have a shot at beating the Lakers in the WCF..
Why go to the Nets ??
Might as well stay in Denver and have a shot at beating the Lakers in the WCF..
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Melo should just try and get to Chicago or Knicks...
Why go to the Nets ??
Might as well stay in Denver and have a shot at beating the Lakers in the WCF..
Why go to the Nets ??
Might as well stay in Denver and have a shot at beating the Lakers in the WCF..
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Melo is a sucker for letting his agents completely handle his situation.
If he really does want to go to NY, he's in a position to force the trade somewhat or wait until the season's over and go. So how are you gonna let your agents manhandle a move to Jersey just so they can get paid?
All you need to do is wait for the season to be over. The Nuggets might be a quick exit from the playoffs, but if he gets sent to the Nets they might not even make it with the hole that they're in. So if you're gonna be irrelevant in this year's postseason either way, why not wait and go to where you really want to go?
If he really does want to go to NY, he's in a position to force the trade somewhat or wait until the season's over and go. So how are you gonna let your agents manhandle a move to Jersey just so they can get paid?
All you need to do is wait for the season to be over. The Nuggets might be a quick exit from the playoffs, but if he gets sent to the Nets they might not even make it with the hole that they're in. So if you're gonna be irrelevant in this year's postseason either way, why not wait and go to where you really want to go?
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Melo is a sucker for letting his agents completely handle his situation.
If he really does want to go to NY, he's in a position to force the trade somewhat or wait until the season's over and go. So how are you gonna let your agents manhandle a move to Jersey just so they can get paid?
All you need to do is wait for the season to be over. The Nuggets might be a quick exit from the playoffs, but if he gets sent to the Nets they might not even make it with the hole that they're in. So if you're gonna be irrelevant in this year's postseason either way, why not wait and go to where you really want to go?
If he really does want to go to NY, he's in a position to force the trade somewhat or wait until the season's over and go. So how are you gonna let your agents manhandle a move to Jersey just so they can get paid?
All you need to do is wait for the season to be over. The Nuggets might be a quick exit from the playoffs, but if he gets sent to the Nets they might not even make it with the hole that they're in. So if you're gonna be irrelevant in this year's postseason either way, why not wait and go to where you really want to go?
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[h2]Sources: Nets, Nuggets 'further along'[/h2]
By Chris Broussard and Marc Stein
ESPN.com
A weekend of heavy activity on the Carmelo Anthony trade front has ushered the New Jersey Nets to the brink of a deal for the superstar forward for the second time, according to sources close to the negotiations.
Thanks to the recruitment of the Detroit Pistons as a third-party facilitator, New Jersey's longstanding attempts to pry Anthony away from Denver are "further along" than any trade scenario that has been discussed since the Nets' near acquisition of the All-Star in late September, sources close to the negotiations said Sunday.
Multiple sources with knowledge of the talks expressed optimism Sunday that a three-team deal involving the Pistons featuring at least 15 players -- with Rip Hamilton and Chauncey Billups winding up in New Jersey with Anthony -- could be completed in the next day or two.
Anthony
Denver, however, elected to play Anthony and Billups in its home game against New Orleans on Sunday night, suggesting that the Nuggets might not be ready to sign off on the trade and, according to sources, frustrating both the Nets and the Pistons.
A similar scenario played out in the September deal, when the Nets and Nuggets hammered out the framework of a four-team swap with Charlotte and Utah, only for the Nuggets to decide that they weren't ready to end their relationship with Anthony and back out of the deal.
As of late Sunday night, New Jersey was poised to receive Anthony, Billups and Hamilton, with Denver landing two future first-round picks and a six players. The Nuggets' New Jersey haul would feature Nets rookie Derrick Favors, former All-Star guard Devin Harris and Nets sharpshooter Anthony Morrow. In addition, the Nuggets would bring in the New Jersey threesome of Quinton Ross, Ben Uzoh and Stephen Graham included for salary-cap purposes.
Detroit, meanwhile, was to receive Nets big man Johan Petro and the expiring contract of Nets forward Troy Murphy, with the Pistons motivated to join in by the $17-plus million in long-term savings they'd earn by shedding Hamilton's contract.
But Denver's decision to play Anthony and Billups against New Orleans and a Bergen Record report Sunday night that the Nuggets want to make unspecified changes to the latest trade layout clearly rankled the Nets.
The Record of New Jersey quoted an unnamed team official within the league as saying: "The deal is close. But Denver is looking to hit a home run."
Earlier Sunday, one source close to the talks told ESPN.com that Sunday's proposed trade was "on the 10-yard-line." Said another source with knowledge of the state of negotiations: "Almost there."
One spark to the suddenly fast-moving nature of weekend negotiations, sources said, is the fact that Detroit is no longer being asked to surrender a first-round pick for the right to trade away the two years and $25 million left on Hamilton's contract. Another key was Denver's lopsided loss Thursday night in Sacramento on national TV. Sources said the embarrassing defeat finally began to convince Nuggets management that the drama surrounding what is widely regarded as the inevitable trade of Anthony had crushed the team's resolve.
When the talks involving Detroit as a potential third-team facilitator were first reported Friday night by the Record, sources told ESPN.com that the Pistons were balking largely because they were being asked to surrender a first-rounder.
Yet at least one potential snag remained from the Pistons' side as well: Detroit's ongoing reluctance to take back Petro. Even though shedding Hamilton's contract in exchange for Murphy and Petro would represent an overall savings of roughly $17 million, sources say New Jersey spent much of the day trying to find a fourth team willing to absorb the $6.75 million owed to Petro over the next two seasons.
The biggest potential holdup, of course, is Anthony's ability to scuttle the whole deal by refusing to sign a three-year, $65 million extension as part of the transaction in what is known as an extend-and-trade. The Boston Celtics got the same extend-and-trade commitment from Kevin Garnett when they acquired him from Minnesota in July 2007.
But it unexpectedly appeared, as Sunday's twists and turns played out, that the Nuggets' indecision and the Petro matter had emerged as greater threats to the trade from New Jersey's perspective than the Anthony extension.
Sources said that the Nets are convinced Anthony will agree to the extension if they eventually manage to reach a full trade agreement with the Nuggets, despite the belief that Anthony is determined to wind up with the New York Knicks. Anthony could end up a Knick either via trade or by trying to convince the Nuggets to keep him for the entire season and then heading to New York in free agency.
Nets officials have remained quietly confident for months that Anthony ultimately would agree to the extension -- no matter how much he'd prefer to play with the Knicks -- to ensure that he locks in his contract before labor negotiations this summer that are expected to establish a much more restrictive financial landscape in the league.
ESPN.com reported last month that the Nets have already been granted permission to meet with Anthony face-to-face if a trade agreement is eventually struck with Denver. That would allow Nets billionaire owner Mikhail Prokhorov and part-owner Jay-Z to lead a contingent that would try to lobby the Brooklyn-born Anthony directly on the team's future in Brooklyn, with the Nets planning to move there in time for the 2012-13 season.
But one source close to the situation insisted Sunday that the Nets believe a face-to-face meeting with Prokhorov might not even be necessary to get Anthony's signoff if New Jersey can indeed acquire Billups and Hamilton. Sources said that the two former Detroit teammates would ease some of Anthony's concerns about joining a team that, despite the presence of promising big man Brook Lopez alongside Harris, is 10-27.
The Nets, furthermore, contend that the fact that both Anthony and Hamilton are represented by veteran agent Leon Rose -- and the fact that Rose has been pushing for Hamilton's inclusion in the trade -- is essentially confirmation that Anthony intends to sign the extension. Sources said the Nets are likewise unconcerned by Denver native Billups' reported determination to ask for an immediate buyout if he is traded away by his hometown team.
The Nets long ago committed to send Favors, Harris and at least two first-round picks to the Nuggets in exchange for Anthony. But they have been looking for third- or fourth-team facilitators for months after the collapse of their original deal in September, holding extensive talks with Cleveland, Minnesota and Portland before turning to Detroit.
The Knicks have always been Anthony's strongly preferred destination, sources say, but Denver has shown little interest in the Knicks' assets (such as Wilson Chandler, Landry Fields and Danilo Gallinari) and have been negotiating almost exclusively with the Nets for weeks.
With Favors and a cache of first-round picks it can move, New Jersey has a far more attractive war chest of trade assets. The Nets have also made it clear that they would not abandon their pursuit of Anthony until they're told directly by the All-Star forward that he would not sign an extension with them, which is the message some sources close to the process still believe New Jersey will get, as reported in December by ESPN.com's Chris Sheridan.
The Nets and Nuggets, meanwhile, have not stopped looking for other teams beyond Detroit that would be interested in joining the trade. This is a result of Denver lacking a strong need for Harris with young guard Ty Lawson on the roster. New Jersey and Denver have likewise continued to discuss trade possibilities with the Nuggets that don't involve any other teams since the collapse of the original deal with Utah and Charlotte, which called for the Bobcats to acquire Harris and Jazz veteran Andrei Kirilenko to land in Denver.
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,so this is really gonna happen.
Knicks fans gonna be pissssed
By Chris Broussard and Marc Stein
ESPN.com
A weekend of heavy activity on the Carmelo Anthony trade front has ushered the New Jersey Nets to the brink of a deal for the superstar forward for the second time, according to sources close to the negotiations.
Thanks to the recruitment of the Detroit Pistons as a third-party facilitator, New Jersey's longstanding attempts to pry Anthony away from Denver are "further along" than any trade scenario that has been discussed since the Nets' near acquisition of the All-Star in late September, sources close to the negotiations said Sunday.
Multiple sources with knowledge of the talks expressed optimism Sunday that a three-team deal involving the Pistons featuring at least 15 players -- with Rip Hamilton and Chauncey Billups winding up in New Jersey with Anthony -- could be completed in the next day or two.
Anthony
Denver, however, elected to play Anthony and Billups in its home game against New Orleans on Sunday night, suggesting that the Nuggets might not be ready to sign off on the trade and, according to sources, frustrating both the Nets and the Pistons.
A similar scenario played out in the September deal, when the Nets and Nuggets hammered out the framework of a four-team swap with Charlotte and Utah, only for the Nuggets to decide that they weren't ready to end their relationship with Anthony and back out of the deal.
As of late Sunday night, New Jersey was poised to receive Anthony, Billups and Hamilton, with Denver landing two future first-round picks and a six players. The Nuggets' New Jersey haul would feature Nets rookie Derrick Favors, former All-Star guard Devin Harris and Nets sharpshooter Anthony Morrow. In addition, the Nuggets would bring in the New Jersey threesome of Quinton Ross, Ben Uzoh and Stephen Graham included for salary-cap purposes.
Detroit, meanwhile, was to receive Nets big man Johan Petro and the expiring contract of Nets forward Troy Murphy, with the Pistons motivated to join in by the $17-plus million in long-term savings they'd earn by shedding Hamilton's contract.
But Denver's decision to play Anthony and Billups against New Orleans and a Bergen Record report Sunday night that the Nuggets want to make unspecified changes to the latest trade layout clearly rankled the Nets.
The Record of New Jersey quoted an unnamed team official within the league as saying: "The deal is close. But Denver is looking to hit a home run."
Earlier Sunday, one source close to the talks told ESPN.com that Sunday's proposed trade was "on the 10-yard-line." Said another source with knowledge of the state of negotiations: "Almost there."
One spark to the suddenly fast-moving nature of weekend negotiations, sources said, is the fact that Detroit is no longer being asked to surrender a first-round pick for the right to trade away the two years and $25 million left on Hamilton's contract. Another key was Denver's lopsided loss Thursday night in Sacramento on national TV. Sources said the embarrassing defeat finally began to convince Nuggets management that the drama surrounding what is widely regarded as the inevitable trade of Anthony had crushed the team's resolve.
When the talks involving Detroit as a potential third-team facilitator were first reported Friday night by the Record, sources told ESPN.com that the Pistons were balking largely because they were being asked to surrender a first-rounder.
Yet at least one potential snag remained from the Pistons' side as well: Detroit's ongoing reluctance to take back Petro. Even though shedding Hamilton's contract in exchange for Murphy and Petro would represent an overall savings of roughly $17 million, sources say New Jersey spent much of the day trying to find a fourth team willing to absorb the $6.75 million owed to Petro over the next two seasons.
The biggest potential holdup, of course, is Anthony's ability to scuttle the whole deal by refusing to sign a three-year, $65 million extension as part of the transaction in what is known as an extend-and-trade. The Boston Celtics got the same extend-and-trade commitment from Kevin Garnett when they acquired him from Minnesota in July 2007.
But it unexpectedly appeared, as Sunday's twists and turns played out, that the Nuggets' indecision and the Petro matter had emerged as greater threats to the trade from New Jersey's perspective than the Anthony extension.
Sources said that the Nets are convinced Anthony will agree to the extension if they eventually manage to reach a full trade agreement with the Nuggets, despite the belief that Anthony is determined to wind up with the New York Knicks. Anthony could end up a Knick either via trade or by trying to convince the Nuggets to keep him for the entire season and then heading to New York in free agency.
Nets officials have remained quietly confident for months that Anthony ultimately would agree to the extension -- no matter how much he'd prefer to play with the Knicks -- to ensure that he locks in his contract before labor negotiations this summer that are expected to establish a much more restrictive financial landscape in the league.
ESPN.com reported last month that the Nets have already been granted permission to meet with Anthony face-to-face if a trade agreement is eventually struck with Denver. That would allow Nets billionaire owner Mikhail Prokhorov and part-owner Jay-Z to lead a contingent that would try to lobby the Brooklyn-born Anthony directly on the team's future in Brooklyn, with the Nets planning to move there in time for the 2012-13 season.
But one source close to the situation insisted Sunday that the Nets believe a face-to-face meeting with Prokhorov might not even be necessary to get Anthony's signoff if New Jersey can indeed acquire Billups and Hamilton. Sources said that the two former Detroit teammates would ease some of Anthony's concerns about joining a team that, despite the presence of promising big man Brook Lopez alongside Harris, is 10-27.
The Nets, furthermore, contend that the fact that both Anthony and Hamilton are represented by veteran agent Leon Rose -- and the fact that Rose has been pushing for Hamilton's inclusion in the trade -- is essentially confirmation that Anthony intends to sign the extension. Sources said the Nets are likewise unconcerned by Denver native Billups' reported determination to ask for an immediate buyout if he is traded away by his hometown team.
The Nets long ago committed to send Favors, Harris and at least two first-round picks to the Nuggets in exchange for Anthony. But they have been looking for third- or fourth-team facilitators for months after the collapse of their original deal in September, holding extensive talks with Cleveland, Minnesota and Portland before turning to Detroit.
The Knicks have always been Anthony's strongly preferred destination, sources say, but Denver has shown little interest in the Knicks' assets (such as Wilson Chandler, Landry Fields and Danilo Gallinari) and have been negotiating almost exclusively with the Nets for weeks.
With Favors and a cache of first-round picks it can move, New Jersey has a far more attractive war chest of trade assets. The Nets have also made it clear that they would not abandon their pursuit of Anthony until they're told directly by the All-Star forward that he would not sign an extension with them, which is the message some sources close to the process still believe New Jersey will get, as reported in December by ESPN.com's Chris Sheridan.
The Nets and Nuggets, meanwhile, have not stopped looking for other teams beyond Detroit that would be interested in joining the trade. This is a result of Denver lacking a strong need for Harris with young guard Ty Lawson on the roster. New Jersey and Denver have likewise continued to discuss trade possibilities with the Nuggets that don't involve any other teams since the collapse of the original deal with Utah and Charlotte, which called for the Bobcats to acquire Harris and Jazz veteran Andrei Kirilenko to land in Denver.
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Knicks fans gonna be pissssed
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[h2]Sources: Nets, Nuggets 'further along'[/h2]
By Chris Broussard and Marc Stein
ESPN.com
A weekend of heavy activity on the Carmelo Anthony trade front has ushered the New Jersey Nets to the brink of a deal for the superstar forward for the second time, according to sources close to the negotiations.
Thanks to the recruitment of the Detroit Pistons as a third-party facilitator, New Jersey's longstanding attempts to pry Anthony away from Denver are "further along" than any trade scenario that has been discussed since the Nets' near acquisition of the All-Star in late September, sources close to the negotiations said Sunday.
Multiple sources with knowledge of the talks expressed optimism Sunday that a three-team deal involving the Pistons featuring at least 15 players -- with Rip Hamilton and Chauncey Billups winding up in New Jersey with Anthony -- could be completed in the next day or two.
Anthony
Denver, however, elected to play Anthony and Billups in its home game against New Orleans on Sunday night, suggesting that the Nuggets might not be ready to sign off on the trade and, according to sources, frustrating both the Nets and the Pistons.
A similar scenario played out in the September deal, when the Nets and Nuggets hammered out the framework of a four-team swap with Charlotte and Utah, only for the Nuggets to decide that they weren't ready to end their relationship with Anthony and back out of the deal.
As of late Sunday night, New Jersey was poised to receive Anthony, Billups and Hamilton, with Denver landing two future first-round picks and a six players. The Nuggets' New Jersey haul would feature Nets rookie Derrick Favors, former All-Star guard Devin Harris and Nets sharpshooter Anthony Morrow. In addition, the Nuggets would bring in the New Jersey threesome of Quinton Ross, Ben Uzoh and Stephen Graham included for salary-cap purposes.
Detroit, meanwhile, was to receive Nets big man Johan Petro and the expiring contract of Nets forward Troy Murphy, with the Pistons motivated to join in by the $17-plus million in long-term savings they'd earn by shedding Hamilton's contract.
But Denver's decision to play Anthony and Billups against New Orleans and a Bergen Record report Sunday night that the Nuggets want to make unspecified changes to the latest trade layout clearly rankled the Nets.
The Record of New Jersey quoted an unnamed team official within the league as saying: "The deal is close. But Denver is looking to hit a home run."
Earlier Sunday, one source close to the talks told ESPN.com that Sunday's proposed trade was "on the 10-yard-line." Said another source with knowledge of the state of negotiations: "Almost there."
One spark to the suddenly fast-moving nature of weekend negotiations, sources said, is the fact that Detroit is no longer being asked to surrender a first-round pick for the right to trade away the two years and $25 million left on Hamilton's contract. Another key was Denver's lopsided loss Thursday night in Sacramento on national TV. Sources said the embarrassing defeat finally began to convince Nuggets management that the drama surrounding what is widely regarded as the inevitable trade of Anthony had crushed the team's resolve.
When the talks involving Detroit as a potential third-team facilitator were first reported Friday night by the Record, sources told ESPN.com that the Pistons were balking largely because they were being asked to surrender a first-rounder.
Yet at least one potential snag remained from the Pistons' side as well: Detroit's ongoing reluctance to take back Petro. Even though shedding Hamilton's contract in exchange for Murphy and Petro would represent an overall savings of roughly $17 million, sources say New Jersey spent much of the day trying to find a fourth team willing to absorb the $6.75 million owed to Petro over the next two seasons.
The biggest potential holdup, of course, is Anthony's ability to scuttle the whole deal by refusing to sign a three-year, $65 million extension as part of the transaction in what is known as an extend-and-trade. The Boston Celtics got the same extend-and-trade commitment from Kevin Garnett when they acquired him from Minnesota in July 2007.
But it unexpectedly appeared, as Sunday's twists and turns played out, that the Nuggets' indecision and the Petro matter had emerged as greater threats to the trade from New Jersey's perspective than the Anthony extension.
Sources said that the Nets are convinced Anthony will agree to the extension if they eventually manage to reach a full trade agreement with the Nuggets, despite the belief that Anthony is determined to wind up with the New York Knicks. Anthony could end up a Knick either via trade or by trying to convince the Nuggets to keep him for the entire season and then heading to New York in free agency.
Nets officials have remained quietly confident for months that Anthony ultimately would agree to the extension -- no matter how much he'd prefer to play with the Knicks -- to ensure that he locks in his contract before labor negotiations this summer that are expected to establish a much more restrictive financial landscape in the league.
ESPN.com reported last month that the Nets have already been granted permission to meet with Anthony face-to-face if a trade agreement is eventually struck with Denver. That would allow Nets billionaire owner Mikhail Prokhorov and part-owner Jay-Z to lead a contingent that would try to lobby the Brooklyn-born Anthony directly on the team's future in Brooklyn, with the Nets planning to move there in time for the 2012-13 season.
But one source close to the situation insisted Sunday that the Nets believe a face-to-face meeting with Prokhorov might not even be necessary to get Anthony's signoff if New Jersey can indeed acquire Billups and Hamilton. Sources said that the two former Detroit teammates would ease some of Anthony's concerns about joining a team that, despite the presence of promising big man Brook Lopez alongside Harris, is 10-27.
The Nets, furthermore, contend that the fact that both Anthony and Hamilton are represented by veteran agent Leon Rose -- and the fact that Rose has been pushing for Hamilton's inclusion in the trade -- is essentially confirmation that Anthony intends to sign the extension. Sources said the Nets are likewise unconcerned by Denver native Billups' reported determination to ask for an immediate buyout if he is traded away by his hometown team.
The Nets long ago committed to send Favors, Harris and at least two first-round picks to the Nuggets in exchange for Anthony. But they have been looking for third- or fourth-team facilitators for months after the collapse of their original deal in September, holding extensive talks with Cleveland, Minnesota and Portland before turning to Detroit.
The Knicks have always been Anthony's strongly preferred destination, sources say, but Denver has shown little interest in the Knicks' assets (such as Wilson Chandler, Landry Fields and Danilo Gallinari) and have been negotiating almost exclusively with the Nets for weeks.
With Favors and a cache of first-round picks it can move, New Jersey has a far more attractive war chest of trade assets. The Nets have also made it clear that they would not abandon their pursuit of Anthony until they're told directly by the All-Star forward that he would not sign an extension with them, which is the message some sources close to the process still believe New Jersey will get, as reported in December by ESPN.com's Chris Sheridan.
The Nets and Nuggets, meanwhile, have not stopped looking for other teams beyond Detroit that would be interested in joining the trade. This is a result of Denver lacking a strong need for Harris with young guard Ty Lawson on the roster. New Jersey and Denver have likewise continued to discuss trade possibilities with the Nuggets that don't involve any other teams since the collapse of the original deal with Utah and Charlotte, which called for the Bobcats to acquire Harris and Jazz veteran Andrei Kirilenko to land in Denver.
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,so this is really gonna happen.
Knicks fans gonna be pissssed
By Chris Broussard and Marc Stein
ESPN.com
A weekend of heavy activity on the Carmelo Anthony trade front has ushered the New Jersey Nets to the brink of a deal for the superstar forward for the second time, according to sources close to the negotiations.
Thanks to the recruitment of the Detroit Pistons as a third-party facilitator, New Jersey's longstanding attempts to pry Anthony away from Denver are "further along" than any trade scenario that has been discussed since the Nets' near acquisition of the All-Star in late September, sources close to the negotiations said Sunday.
Multiple sources with knowledge of the talks expressed optimism Sunday that a three-team deal involving the Pistons featuring at least 15 players -- with Rip Hamilton and Chauncey Billups winding up in New Jersey with Anthony -- could be completed in the next day or two.
Anthony
Denver, however, elected to play Anthony and Billups in its home game against New Orleans on Sunday night, suggesting that the Nuggets might not be ready to sign off on the trade and, according to sources, frustrating both the Nets and the Pistons.
A similar scenario played out in the September deal, when the Nets and Nuggets hammered out the framework of a four-team swap with Charlotte and Utah, only for the Nuggets to decide that they weren't ready to end their relationship with Anthony and back out of the deal.
As of late Sunday night, New Jersey was poised to receive Anthony, Billups and Hamilton, with Denver landing two future first-round picks and a six players. The Nuggets' New Jersey haul would feature Nets rookie Derrick Favors, former All-Star guard Devin Harris and Nets sharpshooter Anthony Morrow. In addition, the Nuggets would bring in the New Jersey threesome of Quinton Ross, Ben Uzoh and Stephen Graham included for salary-cap purposes.
Detroit, meanwhile, was to receive Nets big man Johan Petro and the expiring contract of Nets forward Troy Murphy, with the Pistons motivated to join in by the $17-plus million in long-term savings they'd earn by shedding Hamilton's contract.
But Denver's decision to play Anthony and Billups against New Orleans and a Bergen Record report Sunday night that the Nuggets want to make unspecified changes to the latest trade layout clearly rankled the Nets.
The Record of New Jersey quoted an unnamed team official within the league as saying: "The deal is close. But Denver is looking to hit a home run."
Earlier Sunday, one source close to the talks told ESPN.com that Sunday's proposed trade was "on the 10-yard-line." Said another source with knowledge of the state of negotiations: "Almost there."
One spark to the suddenly fast-moving nature of weekend negotiations, sources said, is the fact that Detroit is no longer being asked to surrender a first-round pick for the right to trade away the two years and $25 million left on Hamilton's contract. Another key was Denver's lopsided loss Thursday night in Sacramento on national TV. Sources said the embarrassing defeat finally began to convince Nuggets management that the drama surrounding what is widely regarded as the inevitable trade of Anthony had crushed the team's resolve.
When the talks involving Detroit as a potential third-team facilitator were first reported Friday night by the Record, sources told ESPN.com that the Pistons were balking largely because they were being asked to surrender a first-rounder.
Yet at least one potential snag remained from the Pistons' side as well: Detroit's ongoing reluctance to take back Petro. Even though shedding Hamilton's contract in exchange for Murphy and Petro would represent an overall savings of roughly $17 million, sources say New Jersey spent much of the day trying to find a fourth team willing to absorb the $6.75 million owed to Petro over the next two seasons.
The biggest potential holdup, of course, is Anthony's ability to scuttle the whole deal by refusing to sign a three-year, $65 million extension as part of the transaction in what is known as an extend-and-trade. The Boston Celtics got the same extend-and-trade commitment from Kevin Garnett when they acquired him from Minnesota in July 2007.
But it unexpectedly appeared, as Sunday's twists and turns played out, that the Nuggets' indecision and the Petro matter had emerged as greater threats to the trade from New Jersey's perspective than the Anthony extension.
Sources said that the Nets are convinced Anthony will agree to the extension if they eventually manage to reach a full trade agreement with the Nuggets, despite the belief that Anthony is determined to wind up with the New York Knicks. Anthony could end up a Knick either via trade or by trying to convince the Nuggets to keep him for the entire season and then heading to New York in free agency.
Nets officials have remained quietly confident for months that Anthony ultimately would agree to the extension -- no matter how much he'd prefer to play with the Knicks -- to ensure that he locks in his contract before labor negotiations this summer that are expected to establish a much more restrictive financial landscape in the league.
ESPN.com reported last month that the Nets have already been granted permission to meet with Anthony face-to-face if a trade agreement is eventually struck with Denver. That would allow Nets billionaire owner Mikhail Prokhorov and part-owner Jay-Z to lead a contingent that would try to lobby the Brooklyn-born Anthony directly on the team's future in Brooklyn, with the Nets planning to move there in time for the 2012-13 season.
But one source close to the situation insisted Sunday that the Nets believe a face-to-face meeting with Prokhorov might not even be necessary to get Anthony's signoff if New Jersey can indeed acquire Billups and Hamilton. Sources said that the two former Detroit teammates would ease some of Anthony's concerns about joining a team that, despite the presence of promising big man Brook Lopez alongside Harris, is 10-27.
The Nets, furthermore, contend that the fact that both Anthony and Hamilton are represented by veteran agent Leon Rose -- and the fact that Rose has been pushing for Hamilton's inclusion in the trade -- is essentially confirmation that Anthony intends to sign the extension. Sources said the Nets are likewise unconcerned by Denver native Billups' reported determination to ask for an immediate buyout if he is traded away by his hometown team.
The Nets long ago committed to send Favors, Harris and at least two first-round picks to the Nuggets in exchange for Anthony. But they have been looking for third- or fourth-team facilitators for months after the collapse of their original deal in September, holding extensive talks with Cleveland, Minnesota and Portland before turning to Detroit.
The Knicks have always been Anthony's strongly preferred destination, sources say, but Denver has shown little interest in the Knicks' assets (such as Wilson Chandler, Landry Fields and Danilo Gallinari) and have been negotiating almost exclusively with the Nets for weeks.
With Favors and a cache of first-round picks it can move, New Jersey has a far more attractive war chest of trade assets. The Nets have also made it clear that they would not abandon their pursuit of Anthony until they're told directly by the All-Star forward that he would not sign an extension with them, which is the message some sources close to the process still believe New Jersey will get, as reported in December by ESPN.com's Chris Sheridan.
The Nets and Nuggets, meanwhile, have not stopped looking for other teams beyond Detroit that would be interested in joining the trade. This is a result of Denver lacking a strong need for Harris with young guard Ty Lawson on the roster. New Jersey and Denver have likewise continued to discuss trade possibilities with the Nuggets that don't involve any other teams since the collapse of the original deal with Utah and Charlotte, which called for the Bobcats to acquire Harris and Jazz veteran Andrei Kirilenko to land in Denver.
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Knicks fans gonna be pissssed
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Originally Posted by Rolaholic
,so this is really gonna happen.
Knicks fans gonna be pissssed
yeeupp
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Originally Posted by Rolaholic
,so this is really gonna happen.
Knicks fans gonna be pissssed
big j 33
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No, you'll just get pictures of the SPURS winning CHAMPIONSHIPS instead.
For someone who claims the Knicks being relevant doesn't matter and they're all hype, Doo sure does talk about the Knicks a lot for some reason.
For someone who claims the Knicks being relevant doesn't matter and they're all hype, Doo sure does talk about the Knicks a lot for some reason.
big j 33
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No, you'll just get pictures of the SPURS winning CHAMPIONSHIPS instead.
For someone who claims the Knicks being relevant doesn't matter and they're all hype, Doo sure does talk about the Knicks a lot for some reason.
For someone who claims the Knicks being relevant doesn't matter and they're all hype, Doo sure does talk about the Knicks a lot for some reason.
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because he's pissed that the spurs won 4 chips recently and nobody even remembers it happening. he's a transparent guy
melo said he doesn't see the deal happening right now. one of you can go find the quotes
melo said he doesn't see the deal happening right now. one of you can go find the quotes
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because he's pissed that the spurs won 4 chips recently and nobody even remembers it happening. he's a transparent guy
melo said he doesn't see the deal happening right now. one of you can go find the quotes
melo said he doesn't see the deal happening right now. one of you can go find the quotes
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Originally Posted by Do Be Doo
>>>>>>
right?
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Originally Posted by Do Be Doo
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right?
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Hasn't this trade been "taking shape" for months?
It was supposedly a "done deal" back in Sept...just sayin.
It was supposedly a "done deal" back in Sept...just sayin.
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Hasn't this trade been "taking shape" for months?
It was supposedly a "done deal" back in Sept...just sayin.
It was supposedly a "done deal" back in Sept...just sayin.
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melo please go to the knicks..
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melo please go to the knicks..
